To be sick of people complaining that they are freezing

[Bookaboo]

When it's actually about 23' in the office. Just fed up of hearing it. I do wonder if it's because people heat their homes excessively and so most places end up feeling colder in comparison.

Also, outside. Temperatures have been mild yesterday and today compared to last week, when it genuinely was sub zero and people had grounds to complain. But people are still moaning that it's freezing when it's 10 degrees warmer!

Don't get it!

Agree with you OP.

I worked in a place where you walked into one particular room and the heat smacked you in the face like you'd entered a sauna. Said room was occupied by a couple of (female of course) skinny minnies wearing no clothes who didn't eat proper food. My face was like a beetroot after a few mins and I couldn't breathe let alone work.

Give me an office full of men and nice open breezy window any day!

And I do put it down to people generally being a bit wimpy these days. Ironically, it's the snowflake generation. I feel like strangling them with their daft huge pashminas and going IT'S NOT FUCKING COLD!!!

My gas and electric is only £40/m total and I live in Scotland in a 1920s flat. So there!

My mother who was an NHS matron type nurse for 40 years said that germs breed in the warm so it's better to have a nice cool house with fresh air.

I never get ill.
The skinny minnies are always sniffling and snuffling.

Plus my dad smoked 80 a day leaving the outside door open to let the smoke out. So I lived in a house with a permanently wide open front door from 1985 until I left home in 2006. In Scotland. Said father didn't believe in turning the boiler on. Ever. I studied for my school exams with gloves on. I am hard. True fact.

Matron mum was not happy re smoker dad but hey-ho, they are still happily married...

I bought one of these fans a few weeks ago, you plug it into your computer:
www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01H4XEC3Q/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?psc=1&tag=mumsnetforum-21&ie=UTF8
Will probably just cancel out the fan heater my colleague has on.

I sneakily open the window whenever she leaves the office for an hour or two, just to get the stale smell and feel out and get some clean oxygen in!!

I'm a permanently cold skinny minnie

I don't get colds and sniffles

I do feel the cold

Obvs I am clearly a snowflake, but just because you either don't feel the cold or don't mind being cold and are hard doesn't mean someone else is any less uncomfortable being cold

I don't mind being hungry or tired, but when I'm cold I'm utterly miserable. If that makes me wimpy so be it.

I've been wearing three pairs of gloves recently, now it's milder I've dropped that down to two. Raynaud's isn't just uncomfortable, it's painful

You can come and strangle me with my big blanket pashmina like scarf for being cold because you're so hard

I spend perhaps 50% of my working days outside in all weathers, but then I'd take cold weather over hot any day. Just dress appropriately (layers and thermals) and you're golden.

I dread winter from a professional point of view as I do a lot of plant maintenance for offices and they are all roasting. The poor plants are all dried out and dying- I constantly have to argue for them to have one of the few varieties that can stand the vagaries of office heating and then they complain that that's boring. And blame me when they die!

It's so much easier to warm yourself up than it is to cool yourself down. My PILs house is unholy hot - central heating plus fan heaters and doors and windows all shut. I feel like I'm going to slip into a coma when we visit.

Raynaud's isn't just uncomfortable, it's painful

This. Be aware it’s not always as simple as putting more clothes on and as for the people refusing to wear t shirts to the office ‘because it’s winter’ how is that any worse than wearing seven layers and still being cold?!

Just wear thermal underwear and a warm jumper and socks, and you will be nice and warm with a temperature of 10C inside. Wear thermals and socks in bed, with a hot water bottle, and you don't need any heating however cold it is.

My above posts are not meant to be taken entirely seriously...

I'm very sorry for those of you who have an actual illness. But I am specifically talking about PITA moaney wimpey millenial colleagues of mine. In fact, Bananafish - I hope you're not my colleague who munches and crunches and rustles packets all day. If you are, you should know that I fantasise about your slow death every day.

Just wear thermal underwear and a warm jumper and socks, and you will be nice and warm with a temperature of 10C inside. Wear thermals and socks in bed, with a hot water bottle, and you don't need any heating however cold it is.

No. You will be nice and warm. Just because you are nice and warm doesn't mean others will be.

I wear thermals and thick cashmere jumpers and two pairs of socks with the heating on at 18

In bed I have thick PJs and thermal top and a cashmere jumper and thick socks and a 13.5 tog duvet, and that's with the heating on. How hard is it to understand that not everyone's body temperature works the same way?

The sad fact is that sharing a space with other humans means someone is always going to be pissed off with the noise/heating/mess/smell/whatever.

But for those of you with illnesses, presumably no office could ever really be made warm enough for you without making the majority of other folk uncomfortable.

Reminds me why I must get on with my plans to work from home!

I will be there with the ammo on the firing line with you chicken for the rustling colleague!!

That and the arsehole who decides to cook fish in the microwave stinking out the entire office

For a lighter take on office temperature warfare, this sketch about how summer is 'Women's winter' (when the office a/c comes on) is brilliant

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d2NNm8MTboA

I don't mind being hungry or tired, but when I'm cold I'm utterly miserable. If that makes me wimpy so be it.

I will take being hungry over being cold. If I was struggling to afford heating I would eat nothing but toast if it meant I could spend more on heating.

I simply can't function well when I am cold. It makes me feel ill and putting on another jumper does not bloody always help.

I can't harden up a bit. Years of living with no central heating in a freezing house as a child to my late teens never hardened me up. It's not going to happen now.

Heheheh!!! That's a good one, i'm going to steal that video!

So true about the communal office cardigan and coats. Fucking eleventy billion black cardigans hanging from chairs and hooks all over our place. Bet you no-one washes them. Ever.

I do enjoy an office shite though.

I'm weird with heat
Change of temperature so say in winter when I'm cold and then exercise, brings me out in giant hives (urticaria) and I swell up. Attractive

House is usually around 17c, in the mornings I turn it up at 19c. Overnight I never have the heating on but I sleep with a 13.5 tog duvet, heated throw and socks and full pjs! V rarely cold at work, I find most houses too hot for me

Hang on - I slag off female colleagues, I prefer a cool office and I love taking a shite in the office toilet and boasting about it afterwards....I AM A MAN!!!

The problem is a mix of a sedentary job and having to dress smartly which means you cant layer up much. I end up blue with cold and with painful joints it is below about 19 degrees in the office.

banana - if you are cold when the temperature is 18C, despite wearing thermals, thick socks and wool jumper, how do you cope in the summer? 18C is a pretty common temperature in summer in the UK. Do you wear thick socks and thermal long-johns all year round, inside and out?

Summer at our office is a nightmare for men, (yes, I went there!). Sick of women- and it always is- in heat friendly tops , skirts, dressses, complaining about how chilly it is when there is blessed relief from a draft for men with less heat friendly work gear on. Don't give a shit about people wearing skimpy clothes obviously but , at our place, men don't get the option with a no shorts/sandals rule for men and not for women.

Draught not draft if you are bothered at before 6 in the morning

I don’t get this at all.

People who are cold in winter and wear extra socks etc and want the place heated to over 20degrees are normally the same people who then dress in summer clothes and want all the windows open and the air on set to 16 in the summer. They do the same in their cars.

How does that work? Is it their perception of temperature that is wonky or do they just like to moan?

Raynaud's isn't just uncomfortable, it's painful
I agree.
I have it and it tends to affecr my feet the most.
Generally i find that swapping shoes/fleese line tights and a small heater blowing heat to my feet under my desk does the trick without turning my classroom up so hot the students can't breathe.

The main thing is I don't spend every 5 minutes of a day whining about the cold. Most people I know with actual illnesses don't spend hours whining. Sure we mention it but it's not part of some theatrical performance every day.

It's the same as people in tbe summer who waft their faces with their hand (which makes you more hot) talking about eeeh it's so hot. I don't know how it's right we're in work in this temperature. Ooh i'm boiling. You know i nearly passed out yesterday. I always feel fright in thr heat. You know that feelingbwhere you're ok but feel a bit woozy... when thry need to stop wearing swishy cardigan/long sleeved tops, stop fanning themselves instead if working, drink some water, get some fresh air on their break abd stop whining.

Is it their perception of temperature that is wonky or do they just like to moan?
Cross posted but some just love to moan. Others seem to think they should be able to dress however they like regardless of weather and that heating/air con exists to work around their outfit choice

YANBU op.

This drives me nuts.

Fortunately I work from home and only have to venture to the office once or twice a month.

I rocked up last week and the room I was working in was empty. The people who were there before me had set it 25.

Ridiculous.

So I turned it straight down to 18.

Why oh why do people do this- they need to put more clothes on. End of.

It’s really unhealthy to be in an environment that hot. The germs spread like wildfire.

At home we have it on 18 max. Windows ajar too.

Yes am completely fed up with this. People really are so pathetic. It seems to be the same people who make a fuss, we have one particular man who insists on having all the air conditioning fans turned off around his desk or he goes home at about mid day (public sector work so this behaviour is tolerated!!!!) meaning that we are all left in sweltering heat unable to breathe.