To believe “wind the bobbin up” is inappropriate and to ask my child’s Nursery not to sing it.

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Wind the bobbin up originated in the cotton mill towns of the north of England in Victorian times. As anyone who knows a bit about a bit history can tell you, the cotton mills were horrendous places which horrifically exploited women and children, forcing them to do dangerous work in appalling conditions for little pay.

How can it be right to trivialise these horrors by getting children to sing a light-hearted ditty about it... It’s offensive to the memory of all those who suffered these horrendous conditions and experienced serious injury or even death as a result of hideously exploitative working practices.

Polly put the kettle on and that God damn son of a bitch, Suki, took it off again!!!!!!

😱

I HAD A LITTLE BROTHER

I had a little brother,
His name was Tiny Tim.
I put him in the bath tub
To teach him how to swim.

He drank up all the water,
He ate up all the soap.
He died last night
With a bubble in his throat.

In came the doctor.
In came the nurse.
In came the lady
With the alligator purse.

“Dead,” said the doctor.
“Dead,” said the nurse.
“Dead!” said the lady
With the alligator purse.

Out came the doctor.
Out came the nurse.
Out came the lady
With the alligator purse.

Incy Wincy spider is about social mobility

Yes, about the futility of the working class trying to better themselves. They may strive and climb but they just get knocked down to start again. It’s trying to ensure children know their place and don’t try and challenge the status quo of the patriarchal order. And how much suffering has the patriarchal order caused, and yet we still connive with the powers that be to maintain the oppression that dehumanises millions.

There’s a reason why TAAT are not allowed OP

It’s to stop MN becoming a bitchy pit of vipers.

If you’ve got something to say, say it to someone’s face.

Don’t go starting another thread to make yourself feel vindicated.

Not nice.

Rainbow Why are you an apologist for this sexist crap? Little Miss Muffet is clearly sexist, reinforcing the stereotype that women are so feeble and weak they run away from spiders... thus cementing the patriarchal order in the minds of impressionable young children.

For fucks sake

I run away from spiders.

I am still confused.
Has other thread been pulled?

Did it involve people disapproving of nursery rhymes?

In later cotton mills provided secure employment and a great sense of community in many northern times, both of which have now gone.....maybe we should celebrate them with wind the bobbin up

OFFS

Later years and northern towns.....doh!

Guessing you also don't do fairy tales what with many having their origins in germanic or French (i think) folk tales for adults.
Red riding hood is all about being aware of strange men promising things and stealing your virginity / why pretty girls are at risk of being easily led by strange men.

Original thread

Fucking hell!

Yes, about the futility of the working class trying to better themselves. depends how you look at it, I took it as working classes got knocked down in the past but now things have changed and there's nothing to knock us down this time round.

There’s a reason why TAAT are not allowed OP

It’s nit really about that thread... the contents of that thread have barely been mentioned, still less the thread’s OP. More that this thread was inspired by it.

my baby loves wind the bobbin up so much, I'm planning on taking her on a trip to the cotton mill museum at Quarry Bank Mill in Cheshire, where we will proclaim it loudly!

I thought the old fashioned working class like what worked in the mills had all put ahiny knockers on brand new front doors with sunlight windows, bought at knock down ginger prices from t, corporation

Oh the patriarchy and contrariness of the age.

I thought it was about sitting down with DC, reading, looking at letters and pictures, talking about them, bit of learning and loving and teaching about times past in appropriate ways.

Errrr..so this isn’t a TAAT or really about that thread OP?

Of course, I’m not serious.... I just couldn’t resist starting this thread after reading on another thread how there seems to be some who believe we can’t reference that alludes to anything about slavery or concentration camps unless it is earnestly deals with their horrors.... And anyone who says it’s different is playing a distasteful game of atrocity top trumps!

Apologies MNHQ, this is a TAAT....

Rainbow
I’m fine with what you wrote. Apologies for seeming as though I wasn’t.... I was trying to make the point that anyone can find anything offensive if they’re minded to.

@Skowvegas
Let's not get started on Humpty Dumpty.
Outrageously eggist.

Point of order. Where does it ever say in the rhyme that HD is an egg?

Someone just started a nasty rumour and it stuck!

I've got a real problem with Noah's ark, so I see where OP is coming from.

Your having a laugh right? Most nursery rhymes have dark backgrounds we wouldn't have anymore nursery rhymes or fairytales left it all were such snowflakes.