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To believe “wind the bobbin up” is inappropriate and to ask my child’s Nursery not to sing it.

534 replies

coconuttella · 20/01/2018 20:35

Wind the bobbin up originated in the cotton mill towns of the north of England in Victorian times. As anyone who knows a bit about a bit history can tell you, the cotton mills were horrendous places which horrifically exploited women and children, forcing them to do dangerous work in appalling conditions for little pay.

How can it be right to trivialise these horrors by getting children to sing a light-hearted ditty about it... It’s offensive to the memory of all those who suffered these horrendous conditions and experienced serious injury or even death as a result of hideously exploitative working practices.

OP posts:
IamPickleRick · 20/01/2018 21:27

Jinx Motoko! 😂

coconuttella · 20/01/2018 21:28

Mary, Mary quite contrary Is really about what? I thought that one was harmless

No way. Sexist as hell... reinforces stereotypes about women being contrary and only interested in dainty activities. Have we forgotten men’s oppression of women through the ages and how these stereotypes only serve to prop this up.... and we’re indoctrinating our kids with this! Won’t someone think of the children. Hmm

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duckdarlington · 20/01/2018 21:28

Ah i see this a TAAT, in which case it will probably be removed but here are some of 8 year old dd's favourite nursery rhymes

Jack and Jill went up the hill and planned to do some kissing. Jack made a pass and grabbed her arse, now his two front teeth are missing.

Roses are red, violets are blue, faces like yours belong in the zoo. Don't be mad, I'll be there too but not in the cage, i'll be laughing at you.

Mary had a little lamb her father shot it dead. Now it goes to school with her between two chunks of bread.

NorksAreMessy · 20/01/2018 21:29

Iona and Peter Opie made a thorough and fascinating study of Nursery Rhymes if you want o delve into the history. www.amazon.co.uk/Oxford-Dictionary-Nursery-Rhymes/dp/B008Z2GZVI/ref=sr_1_6?s=books&keywords=opie+iona+and+peter&tag=mumsnetforum-21&ie=UTF8&qid=1516483707&sr=1-6

Meanwhile, I never thought the second half (“point to the ceiling...”) successfully married with the first half. It seems to be two songs smoooshed together

woodhill · 20/01/2018 21:29

Was there no risk assessment before Jack and Jill went up the hill fgs.

DreamyMcDreamy · 20/01/2018 21:29

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

just

hahahahahaahha

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Ellie56 · 20/01/2018 21:30

Oh yes Motoko I remember that game. It was a favourite at parties.

coconuttella · 20/01/2018 21:31

Ah i see this a TAAT

More of a thread inspired by a thread really.

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Dontletthebastardsgrindyoudown · 20/01/2018 21:32

I come from a town famous for its mills.
And the few workers still alive to tell the tale are incredibly proud to have worked in them!

Get a grip, ffs!

woodhill · 20/01/2018 21:33

Yes I liked the Oranges and lemons game back in the 70s

Dontletthebastardsgrindyoudown · 20/01/2018 21:33

Oh.. read whole thread Grin

Cagliostro · 20/01/2018 21:34

They do Oranges and Lemons type chopping in the Wicker Man (well the original one anyway, I refuse to watch the remake)

I love wind the bobbin up but prefer the dinosaur version:

There’s a dinosaur
There’s a dinosaur
Look look
Roar roar roar
There’s another one
...
...
...
There’s one on the ceiling
...
...
...
Clap your hands together one two three
Dinosaur dinosaur DON’T EAT ME!

:o

stiffstink · 20/01/2018 21:34

I'm deeply offended by the third toe in This Little Piggy.
Pigs should not eat beef, that's how diseases like BSE develop.

Fatarseflanagan09 · 20/01/2018 21:34

Isn't Lucy locket about a prostitute, I'm sure that Kitty Fisher who found the pocket that Lucy lost was a prostitute.

Motoko · 20/01/2018 21:34

IamPickleRick 😂

MsHarry · 20/01/2018 21:35

Oh dear God! OP I'm pointing to the door, out you go!

RainbowGlitterFairy · 20/01/2018 21:37

Is there any nursery rhyme or fairy story that isn’t offensive

Little miss Muffet was Dr Thomas Muffet's daughter, he was a scientist who studied spiders, so that ones just about a man being messy and leaving his stuff all over the house

Incy Wincy spider is about social mobility,
Incy Wincy climbed up the water spout (social ladder)
out came the rain (upper classes) and washed the spider out.
out came the sun (better working conditions and rights) and dried up all the rain
So incy wincy spider climbed up the spout again.

leftwiththedognow · 20/01/2018 21:38

OP I hope to God you only ever have this insignificant shite to worry about.

cdtaylornats · 20/01/2018 21:38

I hope the OP never looks up Cinderella - that glass slipper was fur and a euphemism.

PandaPieForTea · 20/01/2018 21:39

I’m not sure that pirates are a suitable children’s entertainment thing. They were basically criminals and pretty grim ones at that. But I can’t resist all of the pirate talk and secretly want a parrot.

Shopkinsdoll · 20/01/2018 21:42

I can’t stand this nursery rhyme, not because of the meaning, it just grates on me. I think you need to get out more

sirlee66 · 20/01/2018 21:44

Wee willy winky... Child abuse

Wee willy winky runs through the town
Upstairs and downstairs in his nightgown
Knocking at the windows, crying through the locks
All other children in their beds, it's past 8 o'clock

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 20/01/2018 21:45

"I saw a mouse, where?"

Dutch cloggy bastards ruining the feet of meeses

Trashboat · 20/01/2018 21:45

I hope the OP never looks up Cinderella - that glass slipper was fur and a euphemism.

Oooh

GerdaLovesLili · 20/01/2018 21:46

Bonkers. Utterly bonkers.