Turpin horror house keeping me awake at night

[LivelyMummy]

I should have listened to my mum - apparently when pregnant you should keep away from bad news, scary movies, sad people etc

Since the story broke out, it is on my mind all the time. 13 beautiful children - how lucky are these parents! Just why treat them like this? I'm heart broken for these children.

There is nothing I can do. I am so angry, so sad, so helpless...

Does anyone understand why the parents did this?

Kids have written hundreds of journals.... evidence at the very least!

Oh well that is something at least! That will hopefully make sure these fuckers never breathe free air again.

The reason authorities didn't check the home schooling is because the father set up a private school. In the US private schools are not subject to Government checks, they are purely answerable to the parents of the children at the school.

Of course, in this case, the parents were the ones also running the school therefore only answerable to themselves

I wonder if this is a case of the parents not wanting the children to grow up/family to change. They have arrested the development of the children and stopped them going into the world as adults. The group pictures that are years apart show little change (although I have seen no faces)

There is no explaining evil.

But please try to calm down.

Explains why the school was exempt from inspection etc.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42712140

I meant found guilty of course.

Children were hogtied

Hideous

Who are you taking to special?

running!

Pentecostal Christians, apparently. Crazy religious people making the world a worse place to be, as usual. I’m sure it was all ‘god’s plan’ and god spoke to the father (always the father in these cases) to tell him to have all these kids and how to raise them etc.

There are a lot of odd religious cults in the US and paranoia about state / federal power allows churches to lobby the government to prevent sensible measures like home school inspections, all in the name of religious freedom. Who knows how many children are being abused like this because of religion and it might never come to light.

I think special was saying to the OP that she needs to calm down in a nice way since she is upset and not sleeping.

It not about religion or about home education. People in all walks of life may abuse their children. Abusers are all shapes, backgrounds, wealth levels and colours etc.

Many children who go to school get abused. Thus is not about religion or home education but about terrible abuse by two people who never should have had children, let alone 13.

It not about religion or about home education. People in all walks of life may abuse their children. Abusers are all shapes, backgrounds, wealth levels and colours etc.

Yes it was in this case. Both religion and HE were factors in the abuse.

It's nearly always religion at the back of this sort of thing, though. An inadequate man with an outsize ego marries a woman he can coerce and control, and convinces her that his imaginary friend has a special plan for the special family... and this is the result. This is a particularly vile example.

From reading between the lines, this one seems to have more to do with some sort of fetishisation of childhood than religion.

According to the BBC article, the children have been planning this escape for two years.

Heartbreaking.

The 'parents' have pleaded not guilty. I can't see anybody believing that one.

Why do you think they had 13 children, flirty? Just because?

Most of these extreme Christian sects mandate a ‘quiverful’ approach to family life, which means that you have as many children as possible because that is ‘god’s plan’.

This case has everything to do with religion and the main reason homeschooling is so lax in the US is due to lobbying from religious groups that want the freedom to teach their children Young Earth Creationism, abstinence only approach to sex, surrendered wife ideology and so on.

Child abuse does happen everywhere but religions make it easier and facilitate parental abuse of children by pushing the idea of the family patriarch with total control over his wife and children.

I've just seen an interview and the children were asked if they had medication and they didn't know what that meant. They were so uneducated. Unopened toys were found.

I've been watching the story with interest because I literally came from a house like this!

Rural, isolated, massive family, homeschooled, heavily religious. Neither parents worked and at least one had mental illness (probably schizophrenia). Spiralled into abuse, torture, incest. Never got found out, divorce intervened first.

If it's any comfort, when you're in it you literally don't know any different. Growing up, I assumed every family hid their own similar life behind doors. I was more afraid of what the outside world might do to me.

Dissasociation is a pretty powerful coping mechanism. It helped me, and I'm sure it helped these poor children. I ultimately left with PTSD and a drug habit (now kicked), and hopefully most of these children will find their own path to healing. It's here that I seriously wish we had more help available (mental and emotional pain).

I really hope nobody thinks I'm trying to minimise what they've been through, not at all. It's horrific, but speaking as someone who has literally been there, I think sometimes the imagination is more horrific. Your body/mind have amazing ways of helping you to survive. And it's easier when you've never known any "other".

While child protection rules are different in the States so it doesn’t transfer exactly to a UK setting this case is a good example of just how ineffective blanket compulsory registration of Home educators would be.

The family were registered as a Home school and it didn’t do anything to protect the kids. The family appeared out in public and in pictures of family activities enough that they’d probably be able to fool someone long enough for a regular on off annual inspection if you implemented that as a system. Far, far better to target investigations and interventions the way we already do - but make sure there are enough resources and staff tin actually follow up reports (as pretty much every UK serious case review has involved a children who had actually already been reported to social services as a concern)

Oh patricia I am so sorry you had to live that life. It’s good to hear that you have survived and made a life for yourself and are able to have this brilliant insight into it. I really do wish you only good things for the rest of your life.

Yes though sadly so many people say MYOB if anyone posts concerns about any DC on here.

I think a family where you hardly ever see the children and they appear emaciated, ill and withdrawn is a bit more serious than the 'baby had one sock off and I saw their Mum snap in the supermarket' shit you get on here.

Im also really sad and chewed up about this case. Those kids may never fully recover. Its heartbreaking.
Really obvious they have suffered for many years - in the disney photos they are clearly severely malnourished - their arms are much too thin and you can see their collar bones.

The 17yo had worked on an escape plan with the others for two years
to get out. She must have been waiting desperately for her moment. Brave girl.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/42741868/shackled-siblings-what-we-know-about-their-lives

Just a second, they've found diaries from the kids? Is there a link?