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All Trump sees is green. All we see is a traitorous orange menace. Who is right? Place bets now!! (Trump continued)

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badbadhusky · 17/01/2018 22:57

A nod to Banzai there for old timers like me.

Old thread here.

Question is, is it Mueller time yet? Anyone fancy placing a bet on when Trump will exit the POTUS role?

My bet: 20 March 2019.

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 23/01/2018 22:05

Trump has history of lying in court so I would be amazed if he didn't lie to Mueller as well - he is utterly incapable of keeping to the truth (even under oath) and his minions know that.

Some of the WaPo article:
Behind the scenes, Trump has told his team of lawyers that he is not worried about being interviewed, because he has done nothing wrong, according to people familiar with his views. His attorneys also support a sit-down, as long as there are clear parameters and topics.

However, some of Trump’s close advisers and friends fear a face-to-face interview with Mueller could put the president in legal jeopardy. A central worry, they say, is Trump’s lack of precision in his speech and his penchant for hyperbole.

People close to Trump have tried to warn him for months that Mueller is a “killer,” in the words of one associate, noting that the special counsel has shown interest in the president’s actions.

Roger Stone, a longtime informal adviser to Trump, said he should try to avoid an interview at all costs, saying agreeing to such a session would be a “suicide mission.”

“I find it to be a death wish. Why would you walk into a perjury trap?” Stone said. “The president would be very poorly advised to give Mueller an interview.”

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/01/2018 22:16

Susan Hennessey
@Susan_Hennessey
Dana Boente, who Sessions maybe forced out, to replace Jim Baker at FBI. What a weird twist. (link: wapo.st/2n4e6lu?tid=ss_tw-amp )

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/01/2018 22:19

Manu Raju
@mkraju
Burr breaks with Trump

www.snappytv.com/tc/6906761

TheClaws · 23/01/2018 22:19

So ... not a shithole then? Also remember ‘Africa’ is a diverse continent of countries. I’m also finding the implication that they should now start producing to benefit the US after all the years of assistance given shocking.

Fox News @FoxNews 1 hr
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National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster: "Africa is the perfect place for us to transition from just delivery of assistance to robust trade and economic relationships that benefit the people of the United States and the people of Africa."

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/01/2018 22:24

Jennifer Bendery
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Well that's convenient. The White House just announced plans to nominate Wendy Vitter to be a lifetime federal judge. She's married to David Vitter, one of GOP senators' former colleagues.

Dave Sund
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David Vitter, who was once briefly challenged in his Senate primary by...

Stormy Daniels.

All Trump sees is green. All we see is a traitorous orange menace. Who is right? Place bets now!! (Trump continued)
OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/01/2018 22:47

A dead cat, but I’d rather that than a radioactive one

Manu Raju
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Trump to declassify Nunes memo if the House approves release, source tells @evanperez

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/01/2018 22:51

Matthew Miller
@matthewamiller
Thing I'm curious about: Mueller has interviewed Sessions and has asked for his Trump interview. But so far Jared has only done a short interview on one topic. Hmm

GingerIvy · 23/01/2018 23:15

I'm reaching the point where I wondering if I want to bring up the news anymore.

GingerIvy · 23/01/2018 23:22

ABC News

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JUST IN: Robert Mueller has indicated to Pres. Trump's lawyers that the special counsel’s office will seek answers directly from the president on circumstances around Flynn, Comey firings, @ABC confirms.

cozietoesie · 23/01/2018 23:31

Keep persisting, Ginger. Smile

GingerIvy · 23/01/2018 23:39

Thanks. It's been a hellish evening here at home, and sometimes I dread what I'll find on Twitter.

I hate that the US is being destroyed by Trump and his ilk.

cozietoesie · 23/01/2018 23:39

An SNL piece.

GingerIvy · 23/01/2018 23:41

Nathaniel Meyersohn

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As Trump announces tariffs, Trudeau unveils Canada's new trade deal with Asia wapo.st/2DyiBQq?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.71d58b73bcbf
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Joy Reid

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More Joy Reid Retweeted Nathaniel Meyersohn
We are being left behind. MAGA this is not.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 23/01/2018 23:47

Scott Stedman
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BREAKING: Felix Sater subpoenaed; Newly cooperative in New York money laundering case against Trump’s Kazakh business associates: medium.com/@Erinlank/felix-sater-subpoenaed-newly-cooperative-in-new-york-money-laundering-case-against-trumps-kazakh-d865281454fc

cozietoesie · 23/01/2018 23:48

I wonder what Justin has up his sleeve with regard to NAFTA?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 24/01/2018 00:10

Sounds like it’s fake news but it’s Trudeau I’ll see myself out

Adam Parkhomenko
@AdamParkhomenko
January 29: White House Russia Sanctions Deadline

January 30: State of the Union

January 31: Total Lunar Eclipse

And

U.S. Government Faces Critical ‘Brain Drain’ of Sanctions Experts

Departure of top sanctions official prompts new concerns.

foreignpolicy.com/2018/01/19/united-nations-sanctions-state-department-treasury-trump-s-government-faces-critical-brain-drain-of-sanctions-experts/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

cozietoesie · 24/01/2018 00:17

He's confident that the US will come through this tough patch. And yet he leaves?

cozietoesie · 24/01/2018 00:18

Sorry. rough patch.......

cozietoesie · 24/01/2018 00:34

There's an international 'rebalancing' going on, I think?

AcrossthePond55 · 24/01/2018 01:04

Well, my, my, my.

Canada/Asia trade deal sans the US.

Sessions 'doesn't remember' shit (again).

Mueller wants to question Scrotus.

And one of Scrotus' butt-buddies refers to it as a 'perjury trap'. (Interesting turn of phrase. Why would you worry about a 'trap' if you were planning on telling the unvarnished and complete truth?)

Rachel Maddow should be good tonight! She has a way of taking all these 'nuggets' and loose ends and tying them all up together.

On another subject; Scrotus has put a 30% tariff on import of solar technology. This will greatly benefit the oil and coal industries AND hurt my lovely state of California because we're really into using solar. I'm sure Scrotus considers it a triple play. God, I hate that man!!!

lionheart · 24/01/2018 01:05

We probably won't know the outcome for a long while.

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After Trump fired Comey, he asked the Acting FBI Director who he voted for in the Presidential election. I'm not kidding. I wish I was.

cozietoesie · 24/01/2018 01:08

I don't think he liked being asked, either. Smile

cozietoesie · 24/01/2018 01:10

You fool, Across. You thought The Wall was to stop drugs and immigrants, didn't you? Grin

cozietoesie · 24/01/2018 02:38

It's really to stop solar panels of course. Wink

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