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To want to blow this "Motherhood" BS into teeny tiny weeny pieces?

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creepymumweirdo · 17/01/2018 21:28

I'm prepared to get flamed for this, but I've had enough. I can't contain this desperation and rage a moment longer.

I love my little boy to the ends of the earth. I would never do anything to hurt him and will protect him until my last breath. I am a conscientious parent. Some would say an overly anxious one. BUT!

He boils my blood. He is a tiny, irrational narcissistic dictator who does his absolute best to find new ways to rattle me at every opportunity. Of course he is. He's 2.

So surely it's within the bounds of normal to find this mind-bendingly irritating, right? To be so tired and wound up at the end of a working day that it takes all the energy in my knackered old body to not scream "JUST BRUSH YOUR FUCKING TEETH!" after 10 minutes of firm but gentle persuasion. To want to shout "For the love of all that is holy KEEP STILL!" when I watch him restlessly twitching every part of his body in a bid to keep himself awake at the end of a fun and tiring day. To look at him occasionally and think "I wish you weren't here right now" so I could have a massive gin, an hour long bath and go to bed knowing I won't be woken up by the sound of his voice at 5.30am.

Of course, I don't act on any of these feelings. Instead I cuddle him, remind myself how much I love him and how brilliant he is, and when all else fails I walk away and count to ten. Eventually I feel the tension in my body subside, I look forward to spending more time with him and I feel immense guilt at having felt any of those feelings at all.

And here's where my bugbear starts. Why do I feel so crushingly guilty about these feelings? Why have I, until now, never spoken of them honestly to anyone else? Why does it feel like a dirty little secret?

I'm convinced there is a conspiracy around motherhood. A veil of silence that it's dangerous to perforate. Because I have a uterus and the (frankly weird, though remarkable) ability to grow another human inside me and then get them out without either of us dying (mostly, often with hideous consequences that also go unspoken - that's another post) I am expected to have an innate tolerance of all of these massively time consuming, irritating, often boring interactions. One look at mum related websites, blogs, news article and adverts confirms this with the added threat of "Now shut up and be grateful".

Where did this come from? Who was the first female human to raise a child and think "this is a breeze and I am blessed"? If we relied on men to raise our children; to do the majority of endless night wakings and constant changing of sicky clothes and entertaining and unending negotiations and plain old boring drudgery of it all, would we expect them to do it effortlessly? Where is the male Madonna? Clad in regal blue. Glowing, ethereal, smiling and beautiful? Where are the politicians and journalists calling for men to be more responsible, compassionate or 'paternal'? Where are the men writing columns or presenting TV programmes about their struggle with their ambivalence towards having children, or the guilt they feel for not being the father society thinks they should be (there have actually been a very small number of these in recent years, for which I am grateful. If I had the energy to find the articles and cite them I would).

My husband tells me that men and women divulge their parental low points to him quite freely. I envy him. I can't help but think this would not happen were he a woman. It certainly doesn't happen to me.

Maybe I'm a frosty fucker. Work colleagues seem to think 'approachable' is one of my greater strengths, so maybe there's something else at play here. Maybe the myth of motherhood is a useful narrative for some people. I doubt those people are women.

I'm sure there are mothers out there who would never think such dark or unwholesome thoughts about their children. Let's call them, for the sake of argument, the Natural Mothers; as whatever is 'natural' about motherhood (genes? gestation? nurture?) is so ambiguous it's an arbitrary title. I imagine a few of them will be along here soon to tell me I need help. I take my hat off to them. Clearly they have skills that I lack.

But let us be pragmatic for a second: Statistically, what percentage of all women who give birth will fall into this Natural Mother category? I suspect (as, given to bias, I suppose I would) that they are in the minority.

This being the case, who does the Natural Mother trope serve? I, for grace of god, biology, or down and dirty luck, conceived, gestated and gave birth to my son naturally. Whatever that means. And it sure as hell doesn't serve me.

OP posts:
SheGotBetteDavisEyes · 18/01/2018 02:52

I'm a bit sick of people whining about the "pressure to be perfect" to be honest. I don't see it. Every woman I know knows that parenting is hard, and we all talk about it. There is no silence, no conspiracy. What kind of fool thinks having kids is easy? No-one I know.

By and large, I'm inclined to agree. Nearly every bloody 'mummy blog' has been 'telling the truth about being a parent' for years.

I am expected to have an innate tolerance of all of these massively time consuming, irritating, often boring interactions. One look at mum related websites, blogs, news article and adverts confirms this with the added threat of "Now shut up and be grateful"

Really? Really? I don't think it's been like that for years. Parenting blogs blew all that out of the water a long time ago.

If I had a pound for every blog post/article that profoundly points out that that parenting a toddler is hard and it's not all broccoli puree and nursery rhymes, I'd be rich, I tells ye. Rich!

SheGotBetteDavisEyes · 18/01/2018 02:53

P.s. I'm fairly sure that you knew you weren't going to be flamed either, OP!

Batteriesallgone · 18/01/2018 03:46

Toddlers are people. And no matter how much you love someone, if you live with them, you will find them irritating from time to time.

As someone else said, you’re overthinking this. Let it go, you’ll feel much better once you stop railing against all the perceived judgement and just shrug it off.

If you can’t let it go, is there a chance you are getting depressed? Can you have a break for a bit? Leave toddler with Dad and go have a day with a friend (maybe even a spa day Grin)

DioneTheDiabolist · 18/01/2018 03:47

YANBU OP.

NoMudNoLotus · 18/01/2018 04:18

I dont subscribe to this.

I have been a parent for 12 years ... every day i want to bottle them they literally grow so fast.

My children were IVF so i cant imagine writing a column like that tbh - they are my pride and joy.

springydaff · 18/01/2018 05:16

I enjoyed being a mother* (grown now) but I didn't have high expectations of myself.

Reading your account made me feel panicky. Why do you have to be the patient kind mommy? You don't have to be horrible of course but you can just not bother.

I found as time went on it was astonishing how much 'parenting' I could cut out. I got quite streamlined by the end with 90% of it on the cutting room floor lol.

*my memory could not be serving me well

Theworldisfullofidiots · 18/01/2018 05:39

Little children are hard work
When they hit 7 they can be hardwork too.
At a certain point teenagers are like toddlers that argue back.
My eldest is 15 and quite nice.
The in-between bits they are not so bad.
I find wine helps.

IkeaGrinch · 18/01/2018 06:09

If anything the taboo is to say you like/don't mind parenting. The rare person to say that is immediately shouted down as a liar.

I find this too. Only the other day I said something to a friend along the lines of toddler years being hard work but also really wonderful and she gave me this scornful look and said “oh aren’t you saintly? Errr...no? I just think that parenting is hard work but also enjoyable. Confused

NerrSnerr · 18/01/2018 06:10

Children are really hard work. My eldest is 3 and now it’s mostly getting better.

If you would have asked me a few years if I would read blogs/ books from the ‘slummy mummy’ bloggers I would have dismissed them from what I’d seen shared on FB as twee bollocks. But actually reading some of the popular ones (Hurrah for Gin, unmumsy mum etc) and I get it. I’d advise those sneering about them should have a proper look at their blogs (and not just the odd shared post on FB) as I think they’ve been misinterpreted here.

theredjellybean · 18/01/2018 06:18

I don't think it's a conspiracy either.. Its more common now for people to be talking about how hard it is than people playing the isn't this wonderful card.
23 yrs ago when Dd1 was little I remember thinking that all the mothers saying how fulfilled they were and what a joy staying at home with toddlers was, were either on drugs or lying or both.

jeanne16 · 18/01/2018 06:39

Actually I ended up on Prozac when my children were small. I can totally recommend this as it really helped.

theredjellybean · 18/01/2018 06:46

Jeannie... Did it make you 'saintly earth mother' who felt utterly fulfilled?
Thus proving my hypothesis

DollyLlama · 18/01/2018 07:29

Forget the Brew, we need WineGin

Actually, scrap that. I wouldn’t be allowed to join because my 2 year old boss will shout at me until I dance so my coffee goes cold Grin

Goodasgoldilox · 18/01/2018 12:49

'You're overthinking this. It's all normal; you haven't discovered anything profound. Just chill. '

I agree with this too - toddlers are impossible. One here had a huge tantrum -with real tears- because the imaginary umbrella I gave her was blue and she wanted an imaginary yellow one.

(On many days typical two-year-old behaviour should be considered as a mixer for strong drinks?)

Toddler wrestling is exhausting and sometimes miserable. They can be loathsome creatures - often!

However it is possible to feel most fond-motherly when they are deeply asleep.

Ratonastick · 18/01/2018 13:02

Yep, every word! I had a relentless overriding fear that I was fucking it up and raising a sociopath until DS was 5. I was tired and constantly wondering why everyone else had this and I couldn’t do it. I drove myself to the edge. My beloved (and now sadly departed) Granny took me on one side and told me to love him, keep his arse clean and try not to drop him on his head and that if I managed these things I would do fine. Now I look at an incredible 15 year old human, who is bright, funny, clever, Interesting, discovering his voice and his identity and basically a young man who’s company I enjoy. Buggered if I know how it happened, but I think Granny Rat was on to something.

earlylifecrisis · 18/01/2018 13:07

I hear you. I love my 2 year old DS to the end of the earth but he is a big bag of tantrums and unreasonable behaviours that, especially today when I am sick, makes me want to give him away.
But, I have a DD too and she is 5. She was an equally tiresome and unreasonable toddler but now she is super easy. We can hang out and watch a film, go shopping, whatever and it's not stressful at all. So, I know it's worth hanging on in there with DS because he will also be less an arsehole in a short time!

CountFosco · 18/01/2018 13:16

Small children are psychopaths. That's why they are so cute, if they weren't we'd want to kill them.

Absofrigginlootly · 18/01/2018 14:31

OP I don't know if you're new to MN but I'm afraid you've experienced the shite side of MN... I feel like some posters have been unnecessarily harsh, trying to take you down a peg or two. "You're not saying anything new/profound, get over ourself etc etc"

Why do people have to be so, nasty ??

I just don't get it.

Yes there are thousands of slummy crummy mummy blogs I hate my children give me wine type blogs. Probably equal to the I'm so #blessed blogs... (I haven't read them I'm just aware of their existence) but I think that until you are actually emersed in parenthood it sort of passes you by. It certainly wasn't on my radar before DD... I was too busy having fun with DH, traveling, studying, renovating, eating out and holidays!

I used to work in HV for a time before DD though so I guess I had a fairly realistic view which was a benefit when DD was a nightmare baby (severe silent reflux, allergies, tongue tie, colic etc)....

I would say (only online, not outloud!) that I'm a natural mother. I'm with DD 24/7. We live abroad with no family help (not that I'd let them help, they are varying degrees of toxic and we are NC with PIL) and my husband works long hours m-f. My natural parenting instincts were to "attachment parent" (we cosleep, BF to 3, BLW, baby wearing, baby signing, gentle parenting etc) and generally my DD is a joy and I love being at home with her.

Since she turned 3 it's like someone flicked a switch though and some days she can be so bloody AWKWARD and demonic!! ENDLESS chatter and questions (why? Because? And then what? To everything I say!) I just want to hid in the bathroom and cry (or sign her up for preschool!).

Other days I see glimpses of her sweetie little self and we have wonderful moments where we cuddle and she says "I just want to stay here forever"

I think like the PP said above, we had fertility issues before we had her so I think that changed my perspective a little. I feel grateful for her and also I had a hard time growing up with an overly controlling, emotionally abusive, narcissistic DM who expected a fanfare and external gratitude for every tiny thing she ever did as a mother... so I feel that has a huge influence on my perspective too. And the sort of childhood I want to provide for DD.

I'm reading this book right now in the hopes it might help me with my reserves of patience on the days DD is being a total pita, maybe it might be helpful for you OP???

Absofrigginlootly · 18/01/2018 14:34

*dunno why it posted two "really" Confused

Absofrigginlootly · 18/01/2018 14:38

I meant to add to the whole crappy aspects of parenting passing you by before children point:

It reminds me of that scene from the film Marley and Me.

jen is saying (words to the effect of) "no one tells you how hard it's going to be, how much you have to give up".

The dad replies "see if feel they do tell you but you think, ah you're just miserable"

...truth!

gratefulhateful · 18/01/2018 14:39

I agree wholeheartedly.
I could not love my children anymore than i do, I'm over anxious and can't sleep at night foe worrying abiut them and yet they too make my bloody boil and make me so close to losing my shit at every opportunity.
I feel guilty about this too but I think deep down every mother feels the same at least at some point and if they say they don't they're lying.

bilbodog · 18/01/2018 15:27

OP i think your problem is that you havent been able to establish a group of friends locally with young children. I was lucky enough to join a very good NCT group with my first and most of us went on to have second children around the same time as well. It really takes the pressure off knowing that the way your child is behaving is quite normal for their age and having others to share with, particularly when times are hard. I still had days when i wanted to bang heads against walls, including my own! It also gives your little one friends to play with. I dont know if you work at all but can you find time to join some groups with other mothers? You could still join an NCT group in your area with kids similar in age - obviously its not definate that friendships would work but you dont know until you try. How about neighbours with kids - are there any you could get to know?

GammaDelta · 18/01/2018 15:40

You are living my life... i feel for you sister

SheGotBetteDavisEyes · 18/01/2018 20:09

There's a term for this now - Columbusing. It's when you "discover" something and excitedly tell everyone about it, but it's actually been well known for years/decades/centuries

Thanks to this, I've just discovered Columbusing Grin.

I'm convinced there is a conspiracy around motherhood. A veil of silence that it's dangerous to perforate.

Is this really, really your experience, OP? There might be many things around motherhood, but this impermeable 'veil of silence' is a new one on me. Especially since the internet is saturated with 'real' parenting blogs, all falling over each other to tell it 'how it really is.'

While I'm happy for all the posters who are punching the air at your observations, OP, I'm not sure I'm sure there are mothers out there who would never think such dark or unwholesome thoughts about their children. Let's call them, for the sake of argument, the Natural Mothers; as whatever is 'natural' about motherhood (genes? gestation? nurture?) is so ambiguous it's an arbitrary title. I imagine a few of them will be along here soon to tell me I need help is terribly helpful.

But it give us a 'them' and 'they' are called 'Nature Mothers.' This being the case, who does the Natural Mother trope serve? I'm not sure I get the gist of this sentence?

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