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To want to blow this "Motherhood" BS into teeny tiny weeny pieces?

137 replies

creepymumweirdo · 17/01/2018 21:28

I'm prepared to get flamed for this, but I've had enough. I can't contain this desperation and rage a moment longer.

I love my little boy to the ends of the earth. I would never do anything to hurt him and will protect him until my last breath. I am a conscientious parent. Some would say an overly anxious one. BUT!

He boils my blood. He is a tiny, irrational narcissistic dictator who does his absolute best to find new ways to rattle me at every opportunity. Of course he is. He's 2.

So surely it's within the bounds of normal to find this mind-bendingly irritating, right? To be so tired and wound up at the end of a working day that it takes all the energy in my knackered old body to not scream "JUST BRUSH YOUR FUCKING TEETH!" after 10 minutes of firm but gentle persuasion. To want to shout "For the love of all that is holy KEEP STILL!" when I watch him restlessly twitching every part of his body in a bid to keep himself awake at the end of a fun and tiring day. To look at him occasionally and think "I wish you weren't here right now" so I could have a massive gin, an hour long bath and go to bed knowing I won't be woken up by the sound of his voice at 5.30am.

Of course, I don't act on any of these feelings. Instead I cuddle him, remind myself how much I love him and how brilliant he is, and when all else fails I walk away and count to ten. Eventually I feel the tension in my body subside, I look forward to spending more time with him and I feel immense guilt at having felt any of those feelings at all.

And here's where my bugbear starts. Why do I feel so crushingly guilty about these feelings? Why have I, until now, never spoken of them honestly to anyone else? Why does it feel like a dirty little secret?

I'm convinced there is a conspiracy around motherhood. A veil of silence that it's dangerous to perforate. Because I have a uterus and the (frankly weird, though remarkable) ability to grow another human inside me and then get them out without either of us dying (mostly, often with hideous consequences that also go unspoken - that's another post) I am expected to have an innate tolerance of all of these massively time consuming, irritating, often boring interactions. One look at mum related websites, blogs, news article and adverts confirms this with the added threat of "Now shut up and be grateful".

Where did this come from? Who was the first female human to raise a child and think "this is a breeze and I am blessed"? If we relied on men to raise our children; to do the majority of endless night wakings and constant changing of sicky clothes and entertaining and unending negotiations and plain old boring drudgery of it all, would we expect them to do it effortlessly? Where is the male Madonna? Clad in regal blue. Glowing, ethereal, smiling and beautiful? Where are the politicians and journalists calling for men to be more responsible, compassionate or 'paternal'? Where are the men writing columns or presenting TV programmes about their struggle with their ambivalence towards having children, or the guilt they feel for not being the father society thinks they should be (there have actually been a very small number of these in recent years, for which I am grateful. If I had the energy to find the articles and cite them I would).

My husband tells me that men and women divulge their parental low points to him quite freely. I envy him. I can't help but think this would not happen were he a woman. It certainly doesn't happen to me.

Maybe I'm a frosty fucker. Work colleagues seem to think 'approachable' is one of my greater strengths, so maybe there's something else at play here. Maybe the myth of motherhood is a useful narrative for some people. I doubt those people are women.

I'm sure there are mothers out there who would never think such dark or unwholesome thoughts about their children. Let's call them, for the sake of argument, the Natural Mothers; as whatever is 'natural' about motherhood (genes? gestation? nurture?) is so ambiguous it's an arbitrary title. I imagine a few of them will be along here soon to tell me I need help. I take my hat off to them. Clearly they have skills that I lack.

But let us be pragmatic for a second: Statistically, what percentage of all women who give birth will fall into this Natural Mother category? I suspect (as, given to bias, I suppose I would) that they are in the minority.

This being the case, who does the Natural Mother trope serve? I, for grace of god, biology, or down and dirty luck, conceived, gestated and gave birth to my son naturally. Whatever that means. And it sure as hell doesn't serve me.

OP posts:
badbadhusky · 17/01/2018 22:01

Nobody loves every minute of having a 2 year old. Nobody. If they say they do they are either lying or medicated.

Or staff to hand them off to when it all gets too much.

DS2 is stubborn as hell. His tantrums were epic. I remember all 4 of us sitting in the car for an hour at the start of what was supposed to be a fun family day out riding a tantrum out until he’d calmed down enough to be strapped into his carseat. We most certainly were not going to the playground at the end of the road instead. There were other instances but it would too outing to post them. Suffice it to say, he certainly like an audience - the more public, the better. He’s 10 now and really good company, so it’s a good job we didn’t send him back during his terrible twos (and threes).

ArgyMargy · 17/01/2018 22:02

You're overthinking this. It's all normal; you haven't discovered anything profound. Just chill.

KindergartenKop · 17/01/2018 22:03

My kids are gorgeous irritating clever funny dicks.

IAmADancer · 17/01/2018 22:04

God I hear every word you are saying. I sometimes worry that I am not a good enough mother but I’m sure 99% of people think the exact same thing but we are conditioned to not admit to it.
Tonight one of my twins had the most epic meltdown because she wanted a doggy bath. Now I have no idea what she meant by this but she went postal for around 20 minutes because she wasn’t getting a doggy bath and nothing calmed her down. Just drives you to the brink of madness. It would be such a big step forward if people felt they could be more honest about this and I think would help support the people who are really struggling with motherhood

Laquila · 17/01/2018 22:04

I feel like there are loads of Slummy Mummy-type blogs and articles exaggerating for comic effect how totally terrible the writers are at parenting and how they’re basically pissed from breakfast onwards in order to cope with the mind-numbing boredom of it all. It’s like average-parenting oneupmanship.

tiptopteepe · 17/01/2018 22:04

Totally agree. And then when he is in bed and i look at his little sleeping face I really miss him and want him to wake up so i can give him cuddles!!!
After spending all day just wishing i had some time to myself for five mins hahaha
And the guilt is the worst thing. We are all doing our best and love our children but it does seem like no matter what you do the guilt still comes down on you. Every time I snap at my son or dont have the energy to play with him in my head im think 'YOU ARE RUINING HIS LIFE YOU TERRIBLE PERSON' and 'HOW COULD YOU BE THIS WAY TO A SWEET INNOCENT CHILD!!' ...... and its all low key stuff that every mother does and my son is a lovely happy little boy who seems to greatly enjoy his life. But I feel like the worst person in the world sometimes for just being a normal human being.

CaveMum · 17/01/2018 22:05

Preach!

I have an almost 4 year old DD and a 9 month old DS and it’s bloody hard work. DH’s job means he is away from the house from Sunday evening until Friday afternoon every week so I have to do Every. Single. Thing.

I went back to work part-time a few weeks ago and my god I’m soooo tired by the end of the day, but I’m enjoying adult company and the opportunity to sit in blissful silence with a hot drink

DD is perfecting the art of pushing all my buttons - honest to god we should use her in the Brexit negotiations: every little thing is a constant negotiation!

I hate the baby phase. There I said it. For me the first three to four months are pure hell, I’m so glad we’ve come out the other side and my uterus is now closed for business.

Saying those things makes me feel so guilty though, I love them both to pieces but for the love of god I wish they’d just leave me alone at times!

TheLegendOfBeans · 17/01/2018 22:05

Feeling solidarity with you. DD is two in two weeks and super active. We have had to move house from a large open space to a small confined cottage and it’s killing me as she is after climbing and opening EVERYTHING.

When I see her smile at me, when she even is planning something naughty, her face is so full of expression it brings me such joy. But then she’ll either smack me, smack her brother, let out the war cries of hell or dump her lunch, dinner or both all over the floor and I want to spark up a fag there and then and just extend my middle finger then walk away.

Makes me feel really cosmic.

FWIW - and no disrespect to @JassyRadlett - but I find the Slummy Mummy blogs as unrelatable as the shiny LIAR MUMS I’ve encountered in my local area as to me they are both characatures and not reality.

You’re not slummy OP. You’re not shiny. You’re a REAL PERSON. With guilt and sadness and then the next minute joy and love.

Toddlers, eh?

Carouselfish · 17/01/2018 22:06

Sounds like a blog post more than an aibu?

BroomstickOfLove · 17/01/2018 22:08

If absolutely forced to choose, I would say that I fell into the "natural mother" camp. I loved my time at home with the children when I was little, and hung out with other people who felt the same way. I did all the earth-mother stuff. But the only thing that I think I felt differently about compared to the OP was that I didn't feel guilty about hating the shitty bits. In the groups I went to, people were generally pretty honest (and supportive) about the negative stuff, and we'd just pour coffee into the exhausted ones, and distract the toddlers of the ones who hadn't had the chance to have a single non-child-related thought for days on end while they talked about adult stuff, and have the same done for us when we needed it.

Thurlow · 17/01/2018 22:09

With DC1 I acted like ot was all ok and I loved it. Now they are older and I've stupidly had another baby I'm much more comfortable admitting I really don't like small children. I mean, DS can be a little love but the baby and toddler stage is not for me at all.

The more we talk about it, the better we'll feel

RemainOptimistic · 17/01/2018 22:10

Try opening up to your mum friends. If they look disapproving they're not good friends anyway. It's much more likely they'll be relieved to vent!

I don't know where the motherhood myth comes from. I've never experienced it and was never told it by anyone directly or indirectly. Quite the opposite. Friends, family and colleagues telling me horror stories from day one! I was prepared for WW3. Up til now it's more of an endurance race than the total carnage I was expecting. I'm expecting the carnage once DS hits the terrible twos!

I love being a mum. I think it's the coolest thing I've ever done. I didn't want children originally, but it seemed the logical next step in my marriage. I've been blown away by how bloody awesome it's been so far. It is annoying how I can't say that in real life though because everyone else is too busy moaning!

Maybe expecting WW3 is the way forward and then we can all be pleasantly surprised by the moments of joy amidst the carnage.

RefuseTheLies · 17/01/2018 22:11

I regularly have to ask my 2 year old why she’s behaving like a dickhead.

NewYear2019 · 17/01/2018 22:13

I agree. It can be so tiring and mind numbing. The tantrums and nonsense. I prefer them once they are 4+, they are much more rational by that stage and the pressure lifts!

singingdetective · 17/01/2018 22:14

I've always known from a very young age that I'll never be a mother because it'll make me fucking miserable, and in turn no doubt make my poor hypothetical child miserable. I'm just not cut out for it.

BexleyRae · 17/01/2018 22:14

I proclaimed loudly DD today when she was whinging in her pram "why don't you just fucking go to sleep". I then remembered we were out in public. I love her but she has been tiring today

singingdetective · 17/01/2018 22:14

I've always known from a very young age that I'll never be a mother because it'll make me fucking miserable, and in turn no doubt make my poor hypothetical child miserable. I'm just not cut out for it.

Mogginthemog · 17/01/2018 22:16

I have endless patience and tolerance with two year old DGD and love spending time in her company. It has set into sharp relief just how exasperated, worn down and miserable I felt when DD was her age and how exhausting and relentless I found the toddler years. It’s tough and it’s ok to say so.

Thistledew · 17/01/2018 22:17

I love my 18 month old so much that it hurts and I would lay down my life for him in a heartbeat. He is a cheerful, funny, smart and beautiful little thing 98%of the time. Unfortunately, the 2% of the time that he is overtired, fed up, or just plain wants his own way he turns into a biting, skin grabbing, hair pulling little monster. Sometimes when my best efforts to distract him have failed and he has bitten me so hard that it will leave yet another bruise I am not as gentle as I should be when I move him away from me or otherwise restrain him. He usually reacts by giving a little chuckle as if it is all part of a fun game and my heart breaks and I hate myself that in that moment before I actually wanted to hurt him back. Sad

Babbitywabbit · 17/01/2018 22:18

Yeap, totally agree.
As someone said upthread, it’s the fetishising of motherhood and in particular those very early years ... just think of all the hundreds of times you hear that refrain “they’re only tiny for a short time”, “you’ll never get those years back,” and the huge pressure to be the perfect mother.

I love my children to the ends of the earth. They are the most amazing, incredibly beings that ever walked the earth. But boy when they were little they nearly pushed me over the edge some days. I’m so glad I kept working during those early years because although it was blooming hard (and expensive!) it gave me some perspective and made me remember we are raising children to fit into the world, not as little emporers who want the world to bend to them.

I also think because the newborn and early years are glorified so much, it’s also a bit of a dirty secret to admit that actually, children grow into much more interesting, rational and fun people as they get older.

SilverdaleGlen · 17/01/2018 22:20

Oh that's well explained and I hear you!

I have three aged 8 and under and I'm doing it alone, no lovely 2 day a week break for me.

I hate them.
I hate them
I hate them.

I hate the feeling of terror that a single thing going wrong can start a downwards spiral of screaming in triplicate.

I hate that I physically can't wrangle all three so it's like playing sodding whackamole.

I hate the feeling of being trapped and tense and the feeling of wanting to pack my shit and leave.

But or course I love them.

I love when the big one stick sticks an inappropriate Rihanna song on the iPod and teaches the other two all the words just so she can kill herself in fits of giggles at my horrified face.

I love that they care so much about each other.

I love their shiny faces and big eyes when they tell me the most exciting and unbelievable thing they learnt today about hedghehogs.

We should be more open about the hatred and fear and cage fever, and feel less guilty to about acknowledging its existence.

PoptartPoptart · 17/01/2018 22:21

I hear you op, great post, I wish I’d read it 13 years ago when my DC were young.

fruitbrewhaha · 17/01/2018 22:21

yep

StarShapedWindow · 17/01/2018 22:21

When my youngest DC was behaving badly outside school I said to one of the mother’s ‘God, I wish I’d stopped at one DC’. She said ‘why bother with one?’ She is now my closest friend, we both find aspects of raising DC hard. I often feel I’m not unselfish enough, it’s hard to always be kind.

SugarMiceInTheRain · 17/01/2018 22:22

Know just how you feel. I have had an awful day with my 'threenager'. She was such an easy 2 year old but she gets worse and worse as she approaches 4 (next month). I'm counting down til she starts school now Blush