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To want to blow this "Motherhood" BS into teeny tiny weeny pieces?

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creepymumweirdo · 17/01/2018 21:28

I'm prepared to get flamed for this, but I've had enough. I can't contain this desperation and rage a moment longer.

I love my little boy to the ends of the earth. I would never do anything to hurt him and will protect him until my last breath. I am a conscientious parent. Some would say an overly anxious one. BUT!

He boils my blood. He is a tiny, irrational narcissistic dictator who does his absolute best to find new ways to rattle me at every opportunity. Of course he is. He's 2.

So surely it's within the bounds of normal to find this mind-bendingly irritating, right? To be so tired and wound up at the end of a working day that it takes all the energy in my knackered old body to not scream "JUST BRUSH YOUR FUCKING TEETH!" after 10 minutes of firm but gentle persuasion. To want to shout "For the love of all that is holy KEEP STILL!" when I watch him restlessly twitching every part of his body in a bid to keep himself awake at the end of a fun and tiring day. To look at him occasionally and think "I wish you weren't here right now" so I could have a massive gin, an hour long bath and go to bed knowing I won't be woken up by the sound of his voice at 5.30am.

Of course, I don't act on any of these feelings. Instead I cuddle him, remind myself how much I love him and how brilliant he is, and when all else fails I walk away and count to ten. Eventually I feel the tension in my body subside, I look forward to spending more time with him and I feel immense guilt at having felt any of those feelings at all.

And here's where my bugbear starts. Why do I feel so crushingly guilty about these feelings? Why have I, until now, never spoken of them honestly to anyone else? Why does it feel like a dirty little secret?

I'm convinced there is a conspiracy around motherhood. A veil of silence that it's dangerous to perforate. Because I have a uterus and the (frankly weird, though remarkable) ability to grow another human inside me and then get them out without either of us dying (mostly, often with hideous consequences that also go unspoken - that's another post) I am expected to have an innate tolerance of all of these massively time consuming, irritating, often boring interactions. One look at mum related websites, blogs, news article and adverts confirms this with the added threat of "Now shut up and be grateful".

Where did this come from? Who was the first female human to raise a child and think "this is a breeze and I am blessed"? If we relied on men to raise our children; to do the majority of endless night wakings and constant changing of sicky clothes and entertaining and unending negotiations and plain old boring drudgery of it all, would we expect them to do it effortlessly? Where is the male Madonna? Clad in regal blue. Glowing, ethereal, smiling and beautiful? Where are the politicians and journalists calling for men to be more responsible, compassionate or 'paternal'? Where are the men writing columns or presenting TV programmes about their struggle with their ambivalence towards having children, or the guilt they feel for not being the father society thinks they should be (there have actually been a very small number of these in recent years, for which I am grateful. If I had the energy to find the articles and cite them I would).

My husband tells me that men and women divulge their parental low points to him quite freely. I envy him. I can't help but think this would not happen were he a woman. It certainly doesn't happen to me.

Maybe I'm a frosty fucker. Work colleagues seem to think 'approachable' is one of my greater strengths, so maybe there's something else at play here. Maybe the myth of motherhood is a useful narrative for some people. I doubt those people are women.

I'm sure there are mothers out there who would never think such dark or unwholesome thoughts about their children. Let's call them, for the sake of argument, the Natural Mothers; as whatever is 'natural' about motherhood (genes? gestation? nurture?) is so ambiguous it's an arbitrary title. I imagine a few of them will be along here soon to tell me I need help. I take my hat off to them. Clearly they have skills that I lack.

But let us be pragmatic for a second: Statistically, what percentage of all women who give birth will fall into this Natural Mother category? I suspect (as, given to bias, I suppose I would) that they are in the minority.

This being the case, who does the Natural Mother trope serve? I, for grace of god, biology, or down and dirty luck, conceived, gestated and gave birth to my son naturally. Whatever that means. And it sure as hell doesn't serve me.

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TheLegendOfBeans · 17/01/2018 22:22

I also think because the newborn and early years are glorified so much, it’s also a bit of a dirty secret to admit that actually, children grow into much more interesting, rational and fun people as they get older

And that’s why I want four. The idea of all the children rabbiting on and telling stories to each other at home about school/football/whatever gives me such a thrill to think of.

Trouble is that between the lovely snuggly baby stage and the school age is a very hard stage. Very hard indeed. I understand why people typically stop at 2 children, I do.

Ironmanrocks · 17/01/2018 22:23

I tried to be an earth mother. I even thought I was one. My DS was easy -so easy - until he went to school!!! He is 7 and now has tantrums like he should have had when he was 2 - talk about late developer. I have no idea what to do and its driving me insane. I can normally cope but add PMT into the mix and you have no chance. So, any advice please, to tame a stropping toddler aged 7, gratefully received.

Kentnurse2015 · 17/01/2018 22:26

I lost it with my 18 month old in Mc Donald’s today while my 3 year old and a rather judgy-looking business man watched.

Possibly my low point but I was shattered and had a fish finger hurled at me.

I’m with you!

Hermagsjesty · 17/01/2018 22:26

Actually, I think there are lots of blogs about this these days - about how tiring it is, or boring or how much Mums need a break and a gin. In fact, my impression is there are even more of those types of blogs than there are Earth mother/ fetishising motherhood type blogs these days...?! You might find some of them useful - The Unmumsy Mum, Hurray for Gin etc. I know lots of my Mum friends love them. Personally, I think it’s annoying that there seem to be just those two categories - as if you can only be a “slummy mummy” or an Earth Mother, when in reality most people are probably somewhere in between depending what day of the week it is... I love being with my kids most the time, but sometimes I’m tired or grouchy or they annoy me - but then that’s any relationship with anyone you care about, isn’t it?!

WooWooWitchetyWoo · 17/01/2018 22:27

There is LOADS of this stuff out there! Really, millions of words of it on Part Time Working Mummy page alone.

creepymumweirdo · 17/01/2018 22:27

You're overthinking this. It's all normal; you haven't discovered anything profound. Just chill.

This is my favourite response so far. I've no doubt you are right, and that makes me feel better.

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Theshipsong · 17/01/2018 22:29

I'm not a natural mother, in fact I'm probably not even maternal. There are many times I look at my children and wonder to myself 'who are you'. I don't recognise myself in them and think how lovely. I think they are bloody awful. But it isn't the media portraying women as earth mothers, there are a plethora of women (trust me I've been unfortunate enough to know them) who believe they are this themselves, who use the term 'juggling' fondly and enjoy discussing toddler menus. I remember working with them prior to having children myself and being vaguely interested at times as it was a novelty. Roll on a few years and I was bored to tears. Now I have my own, I endeavor not to talk constantly about them because frankly there are more interesting things in the world than my children.

welshgirlwannabe · 17/01/2018 22:30

If nobody around you talks about this very normal, mundane level of parenting then you need better friends.

Literally every time I meet other parents of toddlers talk turns to how boring/ frustrating/ annoying/ demonic our children are. I have never, ever in 15 years of parenting come across a single 'natural mother' who claims it is easy. Especially now with the rise of oh so hilarious bad mummy blogs where every one is reaching for the gin come 5.00 and rebelliously feeding toddlers fish fingers.

If you have not met a single group of people complaining about how awful two year olds are you haven't been to very many toddler groups yet!

Viviennemary · 17/01/2018 22:31

DD drove me totally mad. She had this set face and didn't even need to speak and I knew it was one of those days. Grrrr!!

creepymumweirdo · 17/01/2018 22:34

I moved to a very different very FAR AWAY part of the country just before the toddler was born. I don't really it in, and some unfortunate circumstances beyond our control meant I didn't ever really get to know mums with kids a similar age very well. The few I did meet were 'crusty' and that's not me.

I don't really fit into a camp. I'm just trying to raise a half decent person who is neither going to become a repeat offender or totally hate me for more than a decade. That's my parenting aspiration.

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Medwaymumoffour · 17/01/2018 22:37

It truly sucks some days. In ways that you never knew before you had you kids you could possibly ever feel so helplessly shit equipped to deal with it all.
You have to smile, appear perfect and crack on for outside and plaster on the smile. Why? It’s ok to not be ok.
If it’s any consolation the good days make up for the bad. I keep wondering how it feels to be that perfect parent of the perfect kids. But it’s probably just a show for those parents who seem to have it altogether.
If we get through the week all still alive I am happy that’s a good job done 🤣

recklessgran · 17/01/2018 22:40

Listen OP. I am the mum of 5 and granny of another 5. When my sister had her first [and only child] she rang me and hissed down the phone "Motherhood - ha! it's like an exclusive club that you can't wait to join but once you're in it you can't get out of it! WHY THE FUCK didn't you warn me?" It does get better OP [eventually] - we're all in it together - enjoy the sisterhood.......

welshgirlwannabe · 17/01/2018 22:41

Actually having reread your op I think you just have your own very idealised version of motherhood. I certainly never felt the expectations you describe.

I had my first in 2002 and my second in 2016 and the problem now is that everything is expected to be an experience that you can share on an unnaturally wide platform. So its not enough to just have a good day or a bad day or a day that barely registers: it all has to be social media worthy. Hence overwrought missives on how blessed you are, or how entertainingly hard parenting is. It's both and neither, a blessing and hard work. It does pass, for better or for worse, and you'll wonder why you worried so much.

Or as another poster said more succinctly chill out and stop over thinking

Silvercatowner · 17/01/2018 22:42

I think you are over thinking things. You don't need a parenting aspiration you just need to love them and try not to chuck them (and/or you) out of the window. Mine are late 20s now and rather nice - a long way from being the massive pains in the ass they were when they were 2. It doesn't last for ever.

chibsortig · 17/01/2018 22:42

I spend all my day trying to tire out two toddlers one is in nursery every morning thank goodness, i then spend 3 mealtimes attempting to persuade them to eat. Then i have to convince them sleep is lovely so that they may go the fuck to sleep and stay asleep until morning and a reasonable time like 6.30am instead the minute the sun rises in summertime.
I love my children however i dont like the toddler stage. I hate listening to the sound of my voice on repeat all fricken day.
I spend my time trying to make sure they stay alive its hard work.
DH seems to have it easy they like him when he gets in from work. Me i think they tolerate because i sort things like where the lost shoe is or find the dolly with the red dress that they launched behind the sofa when playing spacerockets.
I look forward to being old and role reversal.

SpikeGilesSandwich · 17/01/2018 22:45

Where are you getting all this pressure to be a "perfect mother" from? If it's social media, just stop looking at it and do your own thing.
I went through hell to get my DS and love him more than I can express, it breaks my heart that I'll never have another child but I also recognise that he can be a little shitbag and that's perfectly normal. It's fine to want to throw them out of the window, the trick is not to actually do it. (So far so good...)

PinkChestnut · 17/01/2018 22:47

I wish I hadn't read this. I'm starting to feel like this and mine is only 7 months Confused

cantucciniamaretto · 17/01/2018 22:49

I'm a bit sick of people whining about the "pressure to be perfect" to be honest. I don't see it. Every woman I know knows that parenting is hard, and we all talk about it. There is no silence, no conspiracy. What kind of fool thinks having kids is easy? No-one I know.

It's a conceit that you imagine anyone else cares about your parenting and how good it is. It's your imagination that you are somehow special and the only one to have these normal everyday feelings.

Butterandsugar · 17/01/2018 22:49

You have a beautiful turn of phrase. Gin for you

FrozenMargarita17 · 17/01/2018 22:54

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creepymumweirdo · 17/01/2018 22:57

cantucciniamaretto good for you. I'm glad you don't see it. Scroll on and sorry to bore you.

I don't think I'm special at all. That's kind of the point.

I don't have a great network of mum friends. Most of my hang ups come from my own mother, who is dead and would probably dispel them if she were here. But we all have our crosses to bare don't we.

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HappyLollipop · 17/01/2018 22:58

All these feelings are entirely normal OP I have these same thoughts about my 5mo DS but after going to a perinatal counselling group I've realised these feelings and thoughts are extremely normal.

While I was pregnant I watched those YouTube and instagram mums that seemed to have their shit together with a beautiful and clean home, baby always looks immaculate and they look gorgeous all the time - stupid me thought that was going to be me. I'm lucky if I find time to do my hair and have a shower, I've gone from doing my make up everyday to practically never, my baby seems to be sick on everything cute I put on him and the housework seems to just pile up! It's been a struggle and I've had to lower my expections but I have the sweetest little boy who makes it all worthwhile.

mummmy2017 · 17/01/2018 23:02

There's a really funny book where one of the mums prepares fruit snacks, and knits all the kids jumpers, the kids are perfect, at every event, and she looks down her nose at all the other mums..

Then one day a group of tired mums walk out of the pub to see this mum palming her kids of with coke, chocolate and burgers and telling them to just leaver F alone.

We all get it some just hide it better.

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cantucciniamaretto · 17/01/2018 23:03

Most of my hang ups come from my own mother, who is dead and would probably dispel them if she were here. But we all have our crosses to bare don't we

Well yeah, there are loads of us without mothers Hmm

You might have more friends who are mothers if you weren't judgemental about other mothers and assume so much about them.