to be annoyed with dh's kitchen hygiene?

[saladdays66]

He will chop chicken on a chopping board, give it a cursory wipe with the kitchen sponge then use it to make sandwiches on.

Yesterday he cooked chicken for tea and he put the chicken packet in the sink with loads of other washing - he was going to wah it and then recycle it. I told him he'd just put loads of chicken germs all over the sink and wtf was he thinking?? He says he does that all the time.

Is it just me, or is that completely incompetent?? And dangerous?? It makes me feel I can't trust him to do anything in the kitchen.

We now have a plastic and wooden board. I chop chicken last and put it in a dishwasher now.

The tray in the sink doesn't bother me, everything gets piled into my sink as i cook (no dishwasher). The hot water & wash liquid will deal with the germy crap.

The chopping board thing made me gip. I've had food poisoning, it ain't pretty!!

Cross post..... Tree wasn't it awful? I was working on a Paeds ward att and I had to wait to be clear before they would let me return to work. Quite rightly but it was a little embarassing tbh . I felt as if I was a filthy person urgggh just horrible.

I also want to know more about the washing up recycling business.

Our local council insists all food packaging is washed. But I am well versed in Mumsnet lore on washing anything chickeny, and have no desire to jet spray salmonella all over my sink area. Currently I just wash tins, jars etc and put any recycling that's a potential death trap in the bin, but I'm going to get rude notes and fines soon (and deep in my heart I know I'm evil and destroying our planet one chicken tray at a time).

What is the answer?

I suspect it might be 'go vegetarian'.

chicken even from top shops like M & S Waitrose, often carries horrible bacteria, in the news recently. some of these folk on her should watch a video, where you can actually see them, they might think differentl! The ol, young, people already with gut problems, or impared imune systems are even more at risk. I have a glass chopping board, i chicken is chopped, its last of all. containers for it, arent recycled where I live. Afterwards,hands thoroughly washed, knock the tap on surgeon style, same with liquid soap.

Plastic packaging that chicken pieces comes in goes straight it the bin then I wash my hands, i wouldn’t dream of washing and recycling it.

Basic food hygiene. Google it! Chicken and pork must be welll cooked because they harbour bacteria that can give serious food poisoning. Probably worse if factory farmed. Lamb and beef can be eaten raw. You can use the same board if you wash it well in between w hot soapy water, or chop chicken last. Better to keep separate board. Never wash chicken before cooking, or the packaging, just spreads the risk. Also wash hands after handling, not just a wipe.

Wooden boards are fine if you use a pan scrubber after meat chopping, along with a dab of bleach. We bin meat wrappers directly. The kitchen sink is steam cleaned daily, or more often if DSIL is doing the dishes.
Campylobacter is a right arsehole, damn near killed me.

I use the same chopping board for chicken and vegetables without wiping it BUT only if I am cooking everything. I have several chopping boards, I don't have them for specific items but they are all plastic and go in the dishwasher every day.

I would definitely not use the chopping board for a sandwich after chicken though, only after it had been dishwashed.

I’m shocked that so many don’t rinse and recycle chicken trays and bin them instead, does that just apply to chicken or do you not rinse other recycling?

I just give it a really good rinse under very hot water, I don’t put it in with the washing up or use a sponge on it. And I’m always cleaning my sink.

Our rubbish is only collected every two weeks so I do wash out anything that is recycled as none of it is tied in bags it would stink and be really disgusting, especially in the summer.

Chicken/meat has specific board.
Packaging goes in bin as even outside of packaging has been found to be contaminated in many shops.

Everything gets a spray down with anti bac and washed seperately. If you check the small print on anti bac washing up liquid it says it kills bact on the cloth not on the dishes in the water!

The whole point of the ad campaign and instructions on packaging not to wash chicken before use or packaging is because the contaminated water droplets splash over a bigger area than you think.

I have to be particularly careful due to cm health and safety but better safe than sorry.

I live off chicken, I eat so many different chicken meal variations during the week. I have lots of chopping boards but will use one at a time so chop the veg first and then the chicken. I give the chopping board a quick hot rinse then in the dishwasher. I will always wash my hands after handling raw chicken. I dettol spray the tap handles and then any cloths I have used go in the washing machine with any other tea towels that need washing that day. I never wash the packaging before recycling.

We can't recycle that sort of packaging so it goes straight in the bin. If however the rest of the dishes were washed with hot soapy water and risned I would think the cross contamination risk was minimal. I would also use a board to chop raw meat then wash it with sponge, soap and water and use again. It doesn't have to be sterilised/disinfected.

I am not nearly as fastidious as many on Mumsnet and actively avoid antibac products as I think they're really harmful. I also in the distant past did a food hygiene course so I know what's risky and what's not, and how to kill off the bugs if there were any in the first place.

Sounds like my OH.

However no one in the family are ever ill.

I have 4 or 5 plastic chopping boards that go in the dishwasher.

Thanks, all!! Am glad to see that many people agree with me - I do realise Mumsnet is a bit OTT with kitchen hygiene but I don't think you can be too careful.

Our chopping board is wood too, so can't go in the dishwasher. I always cut chicken with scissors and bin the packaging.

I do wash out and recycle most other packaging, but not generally meat packaging. I don't want chicken/meat germs in my sink (which I do understand is dirty, deadgood).

But it's the residue - I then want to hand wash glasses etc and I don't want to do that with chicken germs in the sink!

I have asked dh to cut chicken with scissors in future. We do have a plastic chopping board too which I might resurrect for all meat. Just annoys me that I have to be the one to notice and know about these things - bloody wifework.

DD is vegetarian so we don't actually eat that much meat. Thanks for all the responses :)

I’m shocked that so many don’t rinse and recycle chicken trays and bin them instead, does that just apply to chicken or do you not rinse other recycling?

We can't recycle that type of plastic container in my area. The only plastic thing the Council will collect are bottles. Not food trays, yoghurt pots or other types of packaging. We do rinse out jars and glass containers before putting them in the recycling too.

I never wash the packaging before recycling.

What, dutysuite?? But then you'll contaminate the whole recycling load!!!

Ghost

My husband decides now’s the time to clean the bird feeders (which were encrusted with bird-shit). Instead of doing this over the utility room sink, he does this over the kitchen sink (that’s full of dishes in a washing up bowl) and uses the little plastic brush I use to clean plates/saucepans etc, flicking bird shit all over the sink and draining board in the process.

(not envy)

I am by no means a domestic goddess but this drives me bonkers!! I always 'feel' crap like raw meat on my hands until I've washed them. Same after handling animals or soil etc.
If I chop chicken I wash my hands, the board, knife and spray the counter, sink and taps and then the spray bottle too!
Typing this out has made me

See also: walking in dog poo and wearing poo filled trainers across kitchen (twice).

I'm generally not overly twitchy about this sort of thing, but I do take care with raw chicken. I only have plastic chop boards so I don't use them for chicken, instead I cut it in its tray and then put the tray straight in the recycling.
Or I use a plate for the raw chicken and put straight in the sink.

I also don’t wash recycling stuff up. I shove it straight in the recycling bin.

If you put food-contaminated items in the recycling, it can contaminate the whole batch, leading it all to be dumped rather than recycled!

How hard is it to rinse a plastic tray, seriously?

Currently I just wash tins, jars etc and put any recycling that's a potential death trap in the bin.

I do this too, Hebe. It's safer. I offset my lack of not recycling chicken trays by not flying.

ArcheryAnnie we aren’t asked to wash it.

I am with you on the chopping board. We are a bit chopping board oversupplied, but it works - we have four plastic ones which come in a set which are labelled for raw meat, cooked meat, fish, and vegetables, and a wooden one for bread.

But I can't get the angst about washing chicken containers for recycling. If you had a chicken breast left over and you put it in a tupperware container, you would wash the container afterwards yes? And you would wash the chicken chopping board. I can't see the difference really - obviously you would wash separately from other things, like at the end of the wash.

Isn't it all power washed at the recycling plant, Archery?