To think banning the sale of the daily mail goes against all free speech stands for

[BumpowderSneezeonAndSnot]

Now I'm not a fan of it but everyone is allowed to speak their views. Aibu to think banning the sale of any one news outlet goes against the principles of free speech?

You can still read the Mail Online via Virgin’s onboard WiFi and enjoy stories about girls being ‘all grown up’ and how elf and safety has gone mad.

Also last time I read the mail they were mad about ‘yuman rights’. I’m unsure what the word yuman is supposed to be mocking. Someone with an accent I assume?

It’s not being banned, it’s not being sold by one company. The DM could be banned for hate speech imo.

Do you disagree with The Sun not being sold in Liverpool as well?

Completely different, that shitrag besmirched and libelled innocent victims of Hillsborough, were a huge part of the cover up and denying the 96 and their families the justice they deserved.

No one is stopping people from taking a Daily Mail on any train.

Though you do know if you are reading the DM most people will judge you. And not in a good way.

Is the opposite of virtue signalling arsehole signalling?

I wouldn't mind but aside from the fact that Virgin haven't actually banned the daily mail from their train and it's not about an attack on free speech, anyone moaning about the 'other side of the argument' being shut down is having a laugh. Taking brexit as an example, the Daily Mail is hardly inviting any discussion on the matter. It seems to treat any effort to debate the process of leaving as some sort of act of treachery.

OK, OP. I'm going to explain this really slowly. See how you get on.

Universities exist to grow the existence of thinking by examining old ideas and refining them into new, better ideas. If they refuse to acknowledge the existence of ideas they don't like, by "no platforming" people or views, they cannot do this effectively, and have therefore failed to achieve their main objective.

Virgin trains exist to take paying customers from one place to another. As a sideline they also sell newspapers to customers. Customers don't have to buy the newspapers. They can buy newspapers from somewhere else, or they can not buy them. Either way, the train will still fulfil its primary objective of getting the customers from one place to another.

If you think about it really, really hard, can you see some ways in which these two situations might not be the same?

What a nasty response. Hope your life picks up soon and your need to put down others subsides. No one is thinking anything other than how sorry they are for you at best.

I've said many, many times that I am fucking sick and tired of being apologetic and mealy mouthed about the terminal fucking stupidity of those who voted to send my country into the third world. If the nastiest thing that happens to them is that someone on the internet looks down on them and hurts their poor lickle feelings, boo fucking hoo.

As I always like to say on these threads:

Daily Mail the paper that supported Hitler and the Nazis.

Oh yes it did!

If Virgin were selling hundreds of copies per train they’d still stick it.

It’s a business decision with the added bonus that Virgin can have a dig at the Tories, brexit and whoever the editor of the DM is these days.

evening standard bias check

It's not being banned. Richard Branson has decided that it's not profitable enough to give room to, so has made a statement knowing that it will generate free publicity for his shitty rail empire while bouying up the fake hippy/ethical persona he has cultivated.

So YABU OP for portraying this as an assault on free speech (it isnt) while simultaneously providing free PR for 2 cuntish companies.

No one is thinking anything other than how sorry they are for you at best.

Actually no, you don't speak for everyone. I think Doobigetta got the point across perfectly.

People who think this is an attack on free speech or what ever are being ridiculous.

I don't think we have freedom ofrom speech anyway to be 110% honest.
No one is allowed to open their mouths without being swooped on.

A lot of people confuse 'free speech' with 'a right to insist people listen to you.'
But this is a ludicrous fuss about nothing. Virgin has found it isn't worthwhile to stock the Mail because their customers aren't buying it, and have therefore decided to try to win themselves some 'ooh, aren't we progressive and goodhearted?' points by announcing the fact as some sort of victory for 'niceness'. Probably to take people's minds off the way Richard Branson is behaving over the NHS.
The only thing more ridiculous than this was the government simultaneously threatening universities who didn't want to allow rightwing speakers to appear while trying to root out any mention of the fact that Brexit is not a good thing on any university campus.

Everyone has the right to free speech.

How ever if you air your views in public then others have the right to exercise their own right to free speech to challenge those views. Free speech doesn't mean getting to say what you want without consequence.

Nooo, we NEED the Daily Fail. It is the best and simplest way to spot the Daily Fail readers!

Otherwise you have to speak to them for what, a minute or so (that you won't get back) in order to realise that they are complete fuckwit morons.

This is a commercial issue, not a free speech issue. And yes, I would say the same if Virgin Trains had decided to stop stocking the Guardian.

Those who don’t think the mail is responsible for deaths should google Lucy Meadows

I really do hope that those opposed to virgin trains no longer selling the DM boycott the trains and refuse to travel on virgin trains

2 days ago, in response to cabinet reshuffle where 5 out of 22 cabinet ministers were women, this is the DM headline. Utter hysterical wankers. Buy it at your peril.

Daily mail is frightened of losing its grip...

@ivykaty44 it’s already lost it’s grip on reality. I remember seeing a tweet about the DM headline of a meeting between Nicola Sturgeon and Theresa May and it was some shite about what shoes they were wearing.

Someone tweeted the picture and wrote “you spelled UK PM meets with Scottish FM to thrash out Brexit negotiations wrong!”

Witty yet also makes a bloody good point!

The mail, and most other newspapers, are very selective about the views their journalists portray, yet we don't hear any mail-fans complaining about how it stifles free speech.

Bookshops and newsagents choose which papers to sell. They don’t stock every single paper that’s available in the UK. Only those they feel will sell, or that they are happy with selling. Same with books. Do you find every book that exists in every bookshop or supermarket? You just find a selection that will sell.

This is a publicity stunt by Virgin. I thought it was rather a good one myself.

They were selling 70 copies a day. I am sure there are more profitable products they could stock using the space. They also don't stock the guardian etc. No story.