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To be worried about House of Fraser

366 replies

Viviennemary · 06/01/2018 23:20

Seems this is the next chain to be in trouble. And Debenhams hasn't been doing to well either lately according to the news tonight. I don't buy a great deal in either of these but would be really sad to see them go. Woolworths gone and then BHS. Sad at the thought they might disappear

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brizzledrizzle · 07/01/2018 09:12

In a few years our towns won't have a high street will they, it'll just be all out of town warehouses.

I'm contemplating closing my Amazon account; we get our books, music, tv and other supplies from them and I rarely shop elsewhere. That's appalling.

stickytoffeevodka · 07/01/2018 09:12

We don't have a House of Fraser anywhere near here but when I've shopped in the past it's always sold the same stuff you can get down the road for double the price.

Our local Debenhams is always heaving but I never really shop there - again it's expensive and nothing is really to my taste.

They both seem very early nineties to me - department stores in general don't seem to be popular anymore.

JustDanceAddict · 07/01/2018 09:14

Not keen on Hof or Debenhams. Debs used to be good for the DCs when they were younger, esp dd. Lovely kids’ clothes. Never bought anything for me in there and no decent homeware any more.

cheshiremama89 · 07/01/2018 09:15

I think Hof is tired, lack lustre and not as inspiring as other dept stores.

Focus on store cards has contributed to this downfall, retaining an older customer instead of attracting the younger demographic.

Acquisition should have been a key focus along with innovative ideas, and senior leadership team that isn't living in the dark ages!

Littlebelina · 07/01/2018 09:16

Agree to some point on Smith's delete but they have cornered the airport and service station market which I think props up the high street branches. I do wonder how much ours sells apart from newspapers. Everything else in there is hideously overpriced

Mrsmadevans · 07/01/2018 09:17

I have seen a marked change in Matalan too at least in my local branch. I agree with you OP. I wouldn't like to see HOF or Debs in Trouble but it is a sign of the times sadly.

Tentomidnight · 07/01/2018 09:18

HoF has lost its market place to Selfridges in cities with both stores.
It used to be the upmarket, aspirational department store in my city. Now it seems dated and slightly desperate.
Debenhams is stuck in a Millenium timewarp.

whiteroseredrose · 07/01/2018 09:18

I'd miss Hof as I do shop there. There's a shop in my local town that I try to support. DH & DS like their own brand stuff Howick and Linea. I also buy bedding and towels there. But they're very much occasional purchases. None of us are massively into clothes and I don't wear make-up so I'm not an ideal customer.

Fluffycloudland77 · 07/01/2018 09:19

We only use JL now, hof stuff is over priced & I have to pay to park in teeny spaces.

Debenhams is like a jumble sale, you're scared to move in case you knock something over.

JL has free parking & the store is well laid out so I can move around freely. Staff are always polite & helpful. I feel valued when I go in there.

monkeysox · 07/01/2018 09:20

Agree re whs font know how they survive.

Was in Debenhams and hof yesterday.
1/8 of ground floor in hof was bare. What a waste of prime sales floor.

Does depend which town. Edinburgh hof is nice.
Metro centre debs and hof are fab.
I usually do buy in the sales though as it is expensive

GammaDelta · 07/01/2018 09:20

Oh no I love HoF n debenhams too.. there won't be much left on high streets our these two go bust.

QueenLaBeefah · 07/01/2018 09:21

I'm not a huge fan of HoF - tries to be very high end (not giving Harvey Nicols a run for its money) but with tired, neglected premises. Also the staff seem very demoralised. And whilst I'm at it I absolutely hate store credit cards being sold and HoF is incredibly pushy about them and it just really puts me off the whole shopping experience.

Namechangetempissue · 07/01/2018 09:22

Our local two WHSmiths are just awful. Same books you can buy at The Works or online for a couple of pounds for £9.99 plus. Tatty, abysmal customer service, awful self scan machines that don't work, awful quality.

SimplyNigella · 07/01/2018 09:22

Debenhams has lost all focus. I see their brands as older and frumpy, yet neither of my parents will shop there either. My father in particular complains that he used to buy all of his casual clothing there, but he feels they are now targeting a younger audience and struggles to find anything to buy.

BubblesBubblesBubbles · 07/01/2018 09:23

I love HoF ours has a home bit which you can grab some fab bits in.

I like Therapy clothes and always find something I can buy from them. I also order on line quite a bit in the sales. Their click and collect to my store is flawless never once had a problem.

I don’t have a local Debenhams, so very rarely use it, it’s not a shop I think to look for things.

cloudyweewee · 07/01/2018 09:26

DollyPartonsBeard

Alas I only visit Shrewsbury a couple of times a year and never encountered the purple bouffant!!

PerfumeIsAMessage · 07/01/2018 09:27

The WHS stores are, or were, when I worked there, only a small.part of what WHS do/did. Their main revenue back then came from supplying newspapers. How that has changed since the advent of the web, I don't know, but their shops have looked like a truck has driven through them for years now. Dirty, dark, those mile high shelving units and "pretend" offers with "half price" written in ginormous letters but when you find your microscope the small print says "buy 46 overpriced itemd and get a Mars Bar half price" or something.

M&S won't be going anyplace soon. The food will continue to spread, and the dreadful items much loved-to-hate on here are a small part of Per Una and no worse than the monstrosities in Zara/Top Shop etc (the latter being absolutely IMO the most overpriced tat-fest on the high street) If those frocks from M&S last year had been in Zara, every teen fashionista would have been billing and cooing. I teach teens and havr one, and in the summer, at a party, 5 girls were all in the same Zara frock that was identical to the pink M&S one. It's just that the demographic of M&S, as seen by the threads on herr, don't expect to see that sort of "here today, gone tomorrow" fashion item.

This week I have been in London and bought: pants and bras from Primark, plain white t shirts and jumpers for work from Marks (half the price of Gap and won't bobble after one wash) nothing from Debenhams and some candles from HoF. Zara was an abomination (they do summer much better than winter, as do Mango) I no longer even set foot in Top Shop. H&M for dd for cheap, but not rubbish fashion stuff.

AstridWhite · 07/01/2018 09:28

I buy a lot from House of Fraser but only in sales, it tends to be too expensive otherwise.

Same here. In fact I buy almost everything in the sales, unless I need something so urgently that I can't wait.

Luckily there seem to be almost as many weeks a year with sales on as there does without these days.

Cbaanymore123 · 07/01/2018 09:28

No wonder debehams is going down the pan. The stuff is over price and most of it it cheaper on their website than in store.

Most of the staff are rude where I live !

MarshaBradyo · 07/01/2018 09:30

I’m surprised Debenhams has lasted, it’s shoddy

HoF a bit better but John Lewis is better, broad range and people trust it

MissDuke · 07/01/2018 09:30

I don't ever shop in either, too expensive imo. I think I have been in HOF twice ever. We don't have Harvey Nicks, JL or Selfriges here so maybe HoF is more popular here for that reason, I don't know, but I do hear of a lot of people shopping there.

QueenLaBeefah · 07/01/2018 09:31

There is barely any staff on in Debenhams. They must get loads of shoplifters!

PoppyCherry · 07/01/2018 09:33

Postage is expensive to order online

Really?

HoF
Buy and Collect is free on orders over £30 and you can order up to midnight for next day delivery

Standard delivery is £3.95 or free on orders over £50.

Next Day is £6, 9pm cut off

JLP;

Buy and Collect = Free over £30, 8 pm cut off
£3.50 standard delivery
£6.95 Next Day (8pm cut off)

I wouldn't say HoF was expensive in comparison

fiorentina · 07/01/2018 09:35

I do shop at HoF as our local one and one near work is good but I find Debenhams the service is dreadful, no staff and the ones in there just don’t care, it’s poorly merchandised and they just don’t seem to care about run down stores etc.

myusernamewastaken · 07/01/2018 09:38

Oh nooo I seem to be one of the few on here that likes Debenhams...my local is Norwich...I've spent many a day wandering around the concessions...I'd be gutted if it closed...The Bury St Edmunds one is good too...

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