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to hope the Foreign Office don't waste any time on Laura Plummer...

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PiffleandWiffle · 26/12/2017 22:09

She was stupid enough to smuggle drugs into a country against their laws, got caught & got sentenced.

BBC Link

Cue the predictable wailing & cries of "it's not fair" from the family!

Personally, I'd rather the Foreign Office spent it's time trying to help people who are genuinely in trouble abroad rather than idiots drug smugglers....

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specialsubject · 27/12/2017 13:02

She has had the help she is entitled to as a citizen. The fco cannot stop you being convicted for a crime.

They also don't pay if you didn't get travel insurance, need to get back in an emergency and many other issues.

QuiQuaiQuod · 27/12/2017 13:22

totally agree, OP.

Cue wailing grieving family on tv so distraught yet they all had time to cake themselves with make up and glam up to look good for the cameras.

Piggywaspushed · 27/12/2017 13:34

So we are only grieving or upset if we appear make up less? I would put make up on to attend a funeral, for example.

A lot of the judgement on here of the family is very very thinly veiled snobbery.

untoldstories · 27/12/2017 13:36

Cue wailing grieving family on tv so distraught yet they all had time to cake themselves with make up and glam up to look good for the cameras Shock

Bloody hell, would you rather they'd turned out in their pj's looking like shit?
Then you could have lambasted them for that too.
She was arrested back in October, they've had time for a shower since then.

StatelessPrincess · 27/12/2017 13:41

Piggy When they have called themselves glamorous it's hard not to judge a bit, I don't see how it's snobbery. Nothing glam about smuggling tramadol to your fake husband.

QuiQuaiQuod · 27/12/2017 13:45

What Stateless says. shes put it better than me.

Piggywaspushed · 27/12/2017 13:46

They're not politicians or media savvy celebrities : no one has told them how to respond or act (yet). A lot of the focus on this thread has been on the amount of make up worn.

Which hardly seems the most important issue at hand.

limitedperiodonly · 27/12/2017 13:51

290 Tramadol tablets would not be worth 3 years in a British open prison even if the drug was banned here, let alone the kind of prison she will be held in Egypt.

I think at some point our Foreign Office should ask for her to be transferred to the UK. But they won't because they don't care unless pressured.

People on this thread have wanked on about the cases of the Chennai Six and Nazarnin Zhaghari-Ratcliffe but the FO didn't give a shit. But why do you think their cases are more deserving? It's only because their families have gone on about it. Just like Laura Plummer's are doing about it now.

I don't know whether her case has any merit but I don't blame her family for talking about it.

If anyone is upset about the cost I'm sure there is an equivalent Egyptian national held in a British prison who could be transferred in a hostage swap.

EB123 · 27/12/2017 13:51

If she is so naive at 33, her family would surely have been concerned about her marrying an Egyption man and regularly travelling out there?

If she is so naive and didn't know she was doing anything wrong then surely she would have mentioned taking over painkillers for his bad back in conversation. Something like "x's back is really playing up so colleague gave me these to take over for him to try"

DameDoom · 27/12/2017 13:55

Well they did state how privileged they were too - as well as being glam - so a bit hard not to do some judging.
They will have their own series before the year is out and I foresee a bit of modelling. This will be milked for every cent.

untoldstories · 27/12/2017 13:57

They see themselves as glamorous?
So what?
They wear make up and like to look good.
So what?
I usually look pretty scruffy but I'd probably put a bit of slap on if I had the cameras pointing at me.

The implication is that they are somehow putting it on with the 'wailing and the grieving' because they've found the time to put make up on and get dressed in the clothes they own and it is nasty.

ButchyRestingFace · 27/12/2017 13:59

The implication is that they are somehow putting it on with the 'wailing and the grieving' because they've found the time to put make up on and get dressed in the clothes they own and it is nasty.

I didn’t read the comments about the “glam” as implying that the family were “putting it on”.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 27/12/2017 14:02

Since I have known something similar happen before, I can't help thinking that the girl may just have been very naive/ clueless, and has been duped.

Many years ago when I was working for an airline, we flew regularly to an African country where life was being made difficult for Asian citizens generally, and it was impossible for them (legally) to get their money out of the country.

A fellow employee who was extremely sweet but terribly naive, was befriended on one such trip by an Asian couple, who were very nice to her, before asking her more than once to take a parcel to post to their son in Switzerland. Which she did quite happily.

We tried to explain to her that there was almost certainly hard currency (exchanged on the black market) inside - otherwise why could they not post it themselves? And that she would be in the most dire trouble if she got caught - she'd be in jail, the whole aircraft very likely impounded - they would never believe that she'd simply been so naive, or that the whole crew were not at it.

She wouldn't have it at all. The couple were just being nice to her out of the goodness of their hearts.

Eventually she was sick and unable to go on a further rostered flight - a mutual friend went instead. Sure enough, the couple contacted this replacement, and asked her to take the usual parcel to post to Switzerland.
She said yes, she'd be happy to - as long as they'd open it and show her what was inside.
And that, thank heaven, was the end of that, but it took those lengths for the girl to believe - finally - that she'd been duped.
Just saying.

ButchyRestingFace · 27/12/2017 14:03

290 Tramadol tablets would not be worth 3 years in a British open prison even if the drug was banned here, let alone the kind of prison she will be held in Egypt

I’ve seen suggestions she could have got longer than 3 years in a UK prison for supply of a non-prescribed, controlled drug she acquired from a “colleague”?

Is that wrong?

untoldstories · 27/12/2017 14:04

I did, I read it as that completely, that they are vacuous idiots who only care about looking glam for the cameras.
The bit that did it was so distraught yet they all had time to cake themselves with make up and glam up to look good for the cameras

YET they all had the time?
What should they have used their time doing?

DameDoom · 27/12/2017 14:04

Perhaps you are right untold - time and the media will tell.
Isn't that Peruvian drugs mule, Michaella McCollum a z-lister now what with her shopping sprees and many holidays?

untoldstories · 27/12/2017 14:08

All the wailing and grieving?

What the fuck would you be doing if it were your Sister/Daughter/Mother/Brother/Son?

I might well think they'd been an idiot but I would also be doing my damndest to get the FO to help, if that meant going to the media then of course I would do that too.

untoldstories · 27/12/2017 14:09

I have no idea what the girls who were arrested in Peru are doing now.

ButchyRestingFace · 27/12/2017 14:11

I did, I read it as that completely, that they are vacuous idiots who only care about looking glam for the cameras.

I read it to mean that they thought the family were implying that being banged up in a dingy Egyptian prison would be a worse punishment for a “glamour puss” than it would for Angela from Skegness who-looks-like-the-back-end-of-a-bus.

As PP have said, the amount of make up her family wear for the cameras is irrelevant.

I was fascinated by the Irish half of the Peru Two’s ability to maintain her hair in that donut updo throughout the whole ordeal. Would have though donuts would be the first thing to go in extremis but apparently not.

ButchyRestingFace · 27/12/2017 14:14

I have no idea what the girls who were arrested in Peru are doing now.

The Daily Mail can give you a blow by blow account of their movements to the minute.

Scottish one is back home in Gay Glasgow working at a CAB (and being stalked through the streets by the aforementioned).

specialsubject · 27/12/2017 14:15

Given that the woman has been in this long distance relationship with a man married to another woman for some time, surely the family must have seen trouble coming?

Either they are all fools, or laura was warned and didn't listen. Eventually stupid has to be left to it.

brizzledrizzle · 27/12/2017 14:16

What the fuck would you be doing if it were your Sister/Daughter/Mother/Brother/Son?

I'd move heaven and earth to try and get them home, of course.

She's incredibly lucky not to have had a far worse penalty.

untoldstories · 27/12/2017 14:22

I have no interest in what those two young women are doing and I wouldn't know because I don't read The Daily Mail.
Disgraceful if they are stalking her, but hardly surprising.

limitedperiodonly · 27/12/2017 14:28

^I’ve seen suggestions she could have got longer than 3 years in a UK prison for supply of a non-prescribed, controlled drug she acquired from a “colleague”? Is that wrong?*

Link please, if you're going to make suggestions ButchyRestingFace. Otherwise don't

ButchyRestingFace · 27/12/2017 14:34

Link please, if you're going to make suggestions ButchyRestingFace. Otherwise don't

I’m not “making any suggestions”. I said I’d SEEN suggestions.

As for your high handed “link please” - do one! Shock