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to hope the Foreign Office don't waste any time on Laura Plummer...

684 replies

PiffleandWiffle · 26/12/2017 22:09

She was stupid enough to smuggle drugs into a country against their laws, got caught & got sentenced.

BBC Link

Cue the predictable wailing & cries of "it's not fair" from the family!

Personally, I'd rather the Foreign Office spent it's time trying to help people who are genuinely in trouble abroad rather than idiots drug smugglers....

OP posts:
bridgetoc · 29/12/2017 20:42

YANBU...... This deserves none of our attention.

LockedOutOfMN · 29/12/2017 21:30

Spangles1963
I'm just curious at to how this guy who's said to be her boyfriend is married to someone else?

They underwent a 10 minute legal procedure in front of 2 witnesses which allows them to share an apartment together - i.e. sleep together -
under Egyptian law. The legal procedure is referred to in English translation as a kind of "wedding".

Roussette · 30/12/2017 07:28

Apparently egyptian man has said it was love at first sight when he first saw Laura and the legal 'procedure' allows them to hire hotel rooms, which they wouldn't be able to do otherwise.

What gets me is... she is an attractive woman, why on god's earth would she go for just sex with a married man 5 hours away by plane, all this love nonsense, of course it isn't.

PersianCatLady · 30/12/2017 08:56

Susanne
It is weird that the UAE include ADs in their list of banned drugs but hey ho there are lots of other countries you can visit without a lot of hassle or endangering your health by not taking your medications.

PersianCatLady · 30/12/2017 08:58

Bananafish81
I broke my back too L3 vertebrae but I was lead to believe that the pain would eventually go away just like any other broken bone.

Obviously 8 years later it is still here, why do they tell people that?

PersianCatLady · 30/12/2017 09:02

BulletFox
They definitely prescribe codeine in the UAE as my Mum was given it in the hospital when she broke her ankle on the second day of her holiday.

They give you a certificate to show at the airport in case you are drug tested there.

Remember "Codeine Katie"?

But a lot of other drugs just aren't available there.

CIssieB · 30/12/2017 10:56

SuzanneLinder what, seriously...?

That's really terrible actually. So they won't prescribe any of those in UAE?

They are prescribed.

specialsubject · 30/12/2017 13:28

Curiosity led me to a search on this 'wedding'. It seems there is a local name for it in hurghada. ..

sashh · 30/12/2017 14:06

TheletterZ

Knowing your limits and working with them. So frequent stops for coffee so I can sit down. Assistance at airports. If I can afford it business class.

I spend more time in hotel rooms than I would without pain, sight seeing is usually from a bus and I'm normally in bed by 10pm.

pinkmagic1 · 30/12/2017 14:08

Yes special, it is called 'Orfi' and is frowned upon to be honest.
To put it bluntly, it is used as a snagging contract. It offers the women no protection and a divorce is done by simply ripping up the paper.

pinkmagic1 · 30/12/2017 14:09

Shagging contract, that should say!

MissEliza · 30/12/2017 14:42

Shagging contract good description. It's disgusting. If any children result, they are illegitimate and have no rights.

specialsubject · 30/12/2017 15:15

the local term, it seems, is even blunter than that.

Nothing wrong with an adult bargain but the woman seems to have little self-esteem. At the moment that is probably the least of her problems.

HeresMe · 30/12/2017 15:27

What gets me is... she is an attractive woman, why on god's earth would she go for just sex with a married man 5 hours away by plane, all this love nonsense, of course it isn't.

In this country men and women write to and form relationships with convicted prisoners even though there is a lot better partners out there, I can't get my head round it but they do.

CIssieB · 30/12/2017 16:35

Orfi is not common practice throughout the Muslim world. It is in fact particular to one sect in Islam. I’ve only ever heard ref to it once in all the decades I’ve lived in the middle east and it was when two teenagers were fighting in the school playground and one said to the other - I’ll marry your sister.

pinkmagic1 · 30/12/2017 17:10

It is widely used in Egypt, mostly for holiday romances and also by prostitutes ClssieB. I have also heard it is used by college students etc. In the more liberal areas.

Spangles1963 · 30/12/2017 18:38

In response to the PP who asked how those of us on tramadol or other painkillers how we manage when it comes to holidays,personally, I never travel abroad nowadays,mainly because of the cost,and also,my poor health would make it very difficult for me. I also wouldn't go to as very hot country as I can't cope with hot weather for very long. And finally,I would never go to an Arab/Middle Eastern country,for the simple reason that I don't like the way women are oppressed and made out to be second class citizens.

MissEliza · 30/12/2017 19:24

I agree PinkMagic. In Egypt, a couple have to have a marriage certificate to rent a hotel room, so it's often used by Egyptians for that purpose.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 31/12/2017 21:50

They underwent a 10 minute legal procedure in front of 2 witnesses which allows them to share an apartment together - i.e. sleep together

It is indeed a shagging contract as PP has stated.

As I understand, Muslim men are forbidden from having sexual relations with women other than their wives. They get round this by having this form of "marriage" which they employ before sex with a prostitute (or random gullible woman, presumably). When they are finished whatever they want to do, they divorce using the "taliq" ("I divorce thee" x 3). Then it's business as usual.

Rebeccaslicker · 05/01/2018 09:59

The papers have named the colleague who gave her the tramadol this morning (a Donna Irvin apparently). Apparently she won't help because she's scared something will happen to her too.

If she did get them from a colleague as she said, does this make it better than having scoured the internet or something - the latter would seem to suggest more forethought?

Creambun2 · 05/01/2018 10:44

No as obtaining any controlled medicines that aren't prescribed for your is illegal anyway, whether a "mate" gave them to you or you bought them online.

Creambun2 · 05/01/2018 10:46

Are this family utter idiots - their latest reasoning:

"Her family were desperate to obtain Irvin's prescription to prove that Laura obtained the painkillers legally in the UK"

So they honestly believe it is legal just to take another persons prescription medicine?

Rebeccaslicker · 05/01/2018 10:51

This is why I am torn about it. On the one hand, it's clearly still wrong. On the other hand, it does make her seem more naive than deliberate. I guess it makes me feel more sorry for her but it doesn't change my view that she broke the law.

Groovee · 05/01/2018 10:53

Do they honestly believe LP obtained those drugs legally?

DullAndOld · 05/01/2018 10:54

look whatever she has done in her naivety/stupidity, she deserves consular assistance.