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To be narked that at a mandatory training session today the male delegates were addressed as "sir" and the female delegates addressed as "young lady"?

61 replies

SoftlyCatchyMonkey1 · 16/12/2017 17:37

We were a large group of professionals undergoing statutory and mandatory training and the trainer kept doing this. Got my hackles right up.

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Janetjanetjanet · 16/12/2017 17:38

Yes I'd be pissed at that too.

I'd probably have corrected him tbh

NataliaOsipova · 16/12/2017 17:40

Oh gosh - that's not on. Sir and Madam. Or possibly Ma'am if you want to go all American on it. (Mind you, I'd be quite flattered to be called young lady these days, but that's beside the point!)

VladmirsPoutine · 16/12/2017 17:40

Well did you raise this at the time?

EveryoneTalkAboutPopMusic · 16/12/2017 17:40

Yanbu.

JuniUmiZoomi · 16/12/2017 17:41

I would complain!

SoftlyCatchyMonkey1 · 16/12/2017 17:44

I didnt raise it at the time because I was in a room full of 20 people...and I'm a coward

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LaGattaNera · 16/12/2017 17:44

YANBU (how old was the trainer?)

VladmirsPoutine · 16/12/2017 17:47

I'm usually loathe to be 'that person' but if I were you I'd draft an e-mail ready to be fired off to their boss/head-office/whatever come Monday morning.

ForalltheSaints · 16/12/2017 17:48

I assume it was not training in the Equalities Act. YANBU.

MollyHuaCha · 16/12/2017 17:50

Patronizing.

Splinterz · 16/12/2017 17:55

Did you want to be called sir?

humblesims · 16/12/2017 18:00

Send them some feedback.

nooka · 16/12/2017 18:12

with only 20 trainees I'd expect name tags and to be addressed by name. 'young lady' is something I might have been called at school, it's very patronizing.

amicissimma · 16/12/2017 18:36

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ivykaty44 · 16/12/2017 18:38

I prefer that to being addressed as “guys” as I’m not a guy

Why not just tell the trainer what you want to be addressed as?

Ta1kinPeace · 16/12/2017 18:40

If you do not speak up at the time the trainer will never change
being a coward is not an option if you want to achieve

IvorBiggun · 16/12/2017 18:42

Where was this training? 1957?

It doesn’t matter whether anyone said anything at the time or or not. It’s completely inappropriate and unprofessional. I hope you put it on your feedback and also complain.

AssassinatedBeauty · 16/12/2017 18:59

I can completely understand why no one said anything at the time. I'd feedback and complain too, if that's possible.

SoftlyCatchyMonkey1 · 16/12/2017 19:16

Annoyingly, on the feedback questionnaire we had to put our name otherwise we wouldn't get the certificate and we had to give them to the trainer
I'm going to be giving them seperate feedback though

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BenLui · 16/12/2017 19:22

I would have spoken up at the time.

You could have taken him aside quietly at the coffee break.

I do not understand why you didn’t raise it on the feedback form.

You are right but you need to have the courage of your convictions. Nothing changes otherwise.

Ta1kinPeace · 16/12/2017 19:22

email it in to the organiser
when I run training events we NEVER have it done at the time
the online form goes out to be with them three hours afterwards
and then we trainers hope that they are nice about us.

beepbeeprichie · 16/12/2017 19:24

Oh YANBU. One of my major, major bugbears with British Airways. In fact I've complained more than once about it. "Would you like coffee sir?" and then "do you want coffee?" to me. Happens nearly every flight. Not to mention the times I've been asked if I have a business class ticket when I've stood in the club class bag drop/ check in. Interesting the chap in the suit of me wasn't asked. And I am also dressed for "business meetings" as it were.
Really irritates me OP. It's not that I want to be addressed with some title, I just don't want to be treated differently from the men. Angry

BuzzKillington · 16/12/2017 19:24

Outrageous!

I would've raised it on the feedback form.

beepbeeprichie · 16/12/2017 19:24

Suit in front of me. Never seen someone wearing a suit of me. That would all be a bit Ed Gein and inappropriate at Heathrow.

Ta1kinPeace · 16/12/2017 19:35

beepbeep
Out of interest, what would you like the airline to call you?

I call people ladies and gents or chaps and chapesses
individually I use sir and madam (they all know I'm a loon)
but its tricky to not cause insult