To opt-out of organ donation

[Jamiek80]

I am currently on the organ donor list however if the government make it opt out instead of opt in I will choose to opt out. I have a few reasons firstly though I’m on the register I actually have no clue what is involved, What can be taken, how much is taken, what happens to my body and a whole load more questions. Secondly if opt out what will happen can they just take everything I mean it’s possible to transplant a head these days so why not just store whole bodies just in case? Thirdly would the government make it simple to opt-out? Finally if you start opt out technically the government owns your body post death at what point do they decide they can take your organs while you’re still alive? I’m not against organ donation as I said I’m on the register but perhaps a better approach would be more available information, I wouldn’t even know how to re-register these days!

Ollivander84 I like

Oh, shabbs, I've just read your post about Matt. He sounds like a big, wonderful personality even at nearly-8, and I hope it remains a comfort to you after all these years that he got one of his wishes, to help other people.

If your child died, are you positive you would be okay with them whisking the body away for donor organ transplants and not getting to spend time with your child? For some parents being able to hold their child without all the machines being wired into them, is very important. They would be denied that

I am sure. One of my children almost died last year, was about as close to death as you can be and still come back. I remember sitting there and thinking "and I can't even donate his organs", and that really bothering me.
So yes, totally thought through.

A friend of mine lost her 7 year old daughter because of a drunk driver. She took comfort from organ donation. Her child died, but some one else’s lived.

Tremendous pain is not a reason for some one to also lose a child.

If your child died, are you positive you would be okay with them whisking the body away for donor organ transplants and not getting to spend time with your child? For some parents being able to hold their child without all the machines being wired into them, is very important. They would be denied that.

That is not even true. They can take the organs and then the parents can spend time with their child's body afterwards should they wish. I actually think that this should be a very minor consideration- the child is already gone but now their organs can help relieve the pain and suffering of other people. I truly believe many people would take very great comfort in that.

Everyone is different though and there does not appear to be a set procedure. A caller on the radio this morning said she would not donate organs from a deceased loved one if she had to go through the process again - as soon as they gave consent, the relative was whisked away and they never got any time with them first.

catwoozle
That will certainly stick with me as mawkish nonsense.

OMG yes, with bells on - I laughed out loud.

Tremendous pain is not a reason for some one to also lose a child

But as a relative of someone who has passed away or is about to who decides not to consent to organ donation is never responsible for the death of the potential recipient from their ill health either directly or indirectly.

That's an horrendous assertion to make.

It would imply that a person whose organs have failed has a legal right over someone else's, which can never be the case. People who need a replacement organ are very ill, and would be very fortunate to receive a suitable donor organ and survive.

Personally i think knowing that a loved one is saving another persons life after they die more comforting than thinking of their body rotting away under the ground feeding the worms, a part of them literally lives on

But as a relative of someone who has passed away or is about to who decides not to consent to organ donation is never responsible for the death of the potential recipient from their ill health either directly or indirectly

Never? What if I'm almost dead and I have always wanted to donate my organs, and I reiterate this again as I am dying? And there is a child in need of, for example, my heart who would be saved by it, and you, as my next of kin decide not to give my organs purely because you don't like the governments method of organising organ donation?

I'd struggle not to think you are directly responsible for both ignoring my wishes and indirectly causing the death of a child who could have been saved had you not been pissy about nothing.

That's fine, but it's an opinion. Others may have different views.

Not even in that case, curry, no.

I disagree. I'd count you as responsible.

How nice for you. I hope it brings you great comfort.

In what way would a hypothetical thought experiment bring anyone comfort?

You tell me, you are the one proposing it.

That is not even true. They can take the organs and then the parents can spend time with their child's body afterwards should they wish

I think you're missing the point slightly. With organ donation after circulatory death (when the heart has stopped beating) it is very important to remove the organs as quickly as possible - within a few minutes. That means that when you've sat with your relative after treatment has been withdrawn and waited for them to die, their body is then taken away pretty much immediately. If you're lucky you might get 5 minutes with them. Yes, after the donation process you can see the body again for as long as you want, but the process of having them whisked away straight after their death can be quite traumatic for some people. As a HCP I've been with relatives in this situation and it IS difficult/traumatic. Please don't diminish the generosity of the relatives who donate their loved one's organs. It is a big deal.

No, I answered your post. WTF are you talking about?

Tbh curry if you were in a position to reiterate on your death bed that you want your organs donated you wouldn't be a suitable donor. The organs must still be working which only occurs with a sudden death.

For my friend in the situation, knowing that organ donation would spare another child’s life was comforting, and she made it in the moment of knowing exactly what it means to lose a child.

Hence the hypothetical thought experiment, MILK. The cat is not actually both dead and alive.

How weird. Government conspiracies to harvest heads and hands, forcing people to have organs removed, have we fallen into some parallel universe?

If you would accept an organ, cornea, tissue etc then you should be willing to do the same for other people. You arent going to need them if you are rotting in the ground or burned to ashes are you?

And I responded to your question, curry, and your further one.

By all means, continue to step on the rake if you wish.

yes, you responded with nonsense. How would an aibu give comfort, and for what?

Never mind, curry.