To opt-out of organ donation

[Jamiek80]

I am currently on the organ donor list however if the government make it opt out instead of opt in I will choose to opt out. I have a few reasons firstly though I’m on the register I actually have no clue what is involved, What can be taken, how much is taken, what happens to my body and a whole load more questions. Secondly if opt out what will happen can they just take everything I mean it’s possible to transplant a head these days so why not just store whole bodies just in case? Thirdly would the government make it simple to opt-out? Finally if you start opt out technically the government owns your body post death at what point do they decide they can take your organs while you’re still alive? I’m not against organ donation as I said I’m on the register but perhaps a better approach would be more available information, I wouldn’t even know how to re-register these days!

I hope anyone who pots out are not allowed to take a transplant should they need it.

To donate most organs you have to be declared brain dead. They won’t just take them from you when you could survive or if you’re dead already.

I have two friends who are still here today thanks to donated livers
They have young children
It was not their fault that they ended up needing new livers
They would now be dead if the givers had opted out

It seems a little illogical to say you’re currently on the register but will opt out if it becomes an opt out decision. Why don’t your current list of questions already apply?

Have you been watching the Monty Python sketch as research?

All the information you mention being confused about is on the NHS organ donation website, and this page seems particularly helpful for your questions: www.organdonation.nhs.uk/faq/consent/

I would just phone them up if you have concerns or want to specify which organs can be used.

I hope they introduce and opt-out system as soon as possible. My loved ones would much rather see my body go to good use saving others, than let it rot!

So are you prepared to refuse an organ for oyi and any chidlren

The whole purpose of automatic opt in is so the medics have the conversation with the next of kin.

I don’t mean to be obtuse but to the people who opt out, if your child/spouse/parent/partner/loved one was ever in the unfortunate position to require an organ to save thier life would you say no, I’m sorry don’t do that im against organ donation?

If your face was transplanted it would take the structure of the bones of the person it was being transplanted to...

And it's highly unlikely that someone who lives up the roadcwill be the recipients anyway...

It should be assumed that if you aren't on the register, you can't receive an organ should you need one.

I completely agree.

I would assume all the same checks, tests etc will be carried out once the opt out register comes in as there are now. They aren’t going to start saying “oh Fairy’s on the register don’t bother trying to save her, whip everything out.” It doesn’t work like that.

As far as I’m concerned if I’m going to die any way and someone else can use anything of mine they’re welcome to it.

have you seen a face transplant? its hugely unlikely that 'your face' would look anything like 'you' if transplanted... or even live anywhere near where your family do

pretty selfish really that you would prefer your 'bits' go to waste rather than saving a life...

You’re talking complete bollocks.

It's still down to your next of kin to decide though isn't it? Opting in or out has no legal standing.

Your 'loved ones' have the final say under either system.

I am strongly against opt out but your reasoning is absolutely ridiculous.

Compulsory face transplants and live kidney donations? really

You are talking absolute rubbish.

Make whatever choice you want but for crying out loud, educate youself.

OP.

Op you are being unreasonable. and ridiculous

They don't automatically take all your organs when you die even if you're on the register. There is very strict criteria which needs to be met and they will only remove what they can use. They don't just butcher your body to pieces. You can still have a full funeral, open casket if you so wish.

There already are regulations on how organs are disposed of

YANBU to opt out if you want - though your reasoning is a little odd.
The reason the opt-out suggestion is being floated is that lots of people would happily be donors, but either haven't really thought about it or can't be arsed to sign up. This way, anyone who doesn't want to donate can opt out easily.
You can look up what's involved in organ donation quite easily.

AFAIK there's a very short window of time in which organs are usable, so there would be no point storing bodies "in case". Usually anything usable is taken ASAP, then either the body is given to relatives for the usual burial/cremation, or donated on to science/medicine etc if that's what the deceased wished. (This is different to the organ donor register).
The government doesn't own your body - unless I'm missing something? And why would they take organs while still alive? And why wouldn't they already if so - what about the opt-in process stops them?
The head transplant was very experimental - I believe the patient was paralysed from the waist down? This kind of thing is still a long way off if it ever happens.

As for it being simple to opt-out - I would assume it would be.

Organ donation is personal and YWNBU to opt either way, but I'm all for an opt-out system.

It should be assumed that if you aren't on the register, you can't receive an organ should you need one.

Really agree with this.

What happens when they decide they don’t have enough suitable dead donors will you be forced to give up a kidney while alive?

Really? You think this will happen. Have you been reading too much Never Let Me Go? Surely if they allow people to opt out of donation completely, they would also allow people to say no to live donations too?

I will be giving blood tomorrow. I am so happy to help as it is a minor inconvenience to me and saves the lives of many.

OP... I'm very sceptical about what you're posting. How can you be on the organ donor list - which you actually had to sign up for - yet be so woefully ignorant about it?

And why is mumsnet your first port of call rather than, I don't know - reading up about it here, for example: www.organdonation.nhs.uk/faq/organ-donation-and-transplantation/

On the offchance that you're on the level there are better sources of factual information about this very serious subject than a chatboard where this subject can upset posters whose loved ones have died for want of organs.

Educate yourself.

When I'm world dictator, anyone who uses the expression "loved ones" will be culled and their organs harvested............

I'd be quite happy for them to take as much of me as they could to help as many people live/have a better quality of life. I think it would hopefully be a comfort to family to know I'd helped others live instead of them feeling deprived of certain parts of my body to bury and burn.

If your prepared to receive and organ then I believe you should donate.
My views are my body is no use to me when dead if I can help other people survive take whatever you need

You're really over thinking things!