AIBU,to report a pub to police ,and will police even give a shit?

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I was sure there was a think 24 policy in place,where if you looked under 24 you didn't get served....well I just spent the whole night looking after my paralytic 16 yr old dc who came home having been served in a pub...in fact dc spent the whole evening in pub repeatedly getting served...this was a Xmas party for a sports club,with the club manager there as well,supposedly looking after the kids, I stupidly thought.granted dc shouldn't of tried to get served,but shouldn't pubs be asking for id ?

Oh...ok I was hoping you could share what excellent parenting the OP could have done to prevent this then? I'm sure lots of posters, myself included will benefit from your wisdom.

Jesus I think my parents would have been disappointed if I hadn’t had an underage drink or two!

Some truly fucking abysmal attitudes to alcohol on here today. No wonder we’re an international laughing stock on the booze front.

Actually it’s Eastern Europe that’s the worst for alcohol consumption and binging and alcohol related deaths, then the US (which shocked me) then South Africa.

How are you getting so much information from someone whose so 'paralytic'?

Attitudes like this are why our society has a huge problem with alcoholism and alcohol related ill-health.

I agree. It’s shit.

The issue is not that a 16-year-old got drunk, it’s that he did it in a licensed bar. I don’t live in the UK but there must be liquor licensing laws against this?

I wouldn’t let it go.

Laws around responsible service of alcohol, I mean. You know, to stop adult owners of licensed premises from profiting by selling booze to kids 2 years under legal drinking age.

I used to run a pub.

Someone's dc got drunk in there. Someone (maybe a parent? Maybe just a concerned citizen) reported it to the local authority, and also to us.

We got a pretty serious visit from the police the following Saturday night, 9 pm. At least 12 coppers searching the pub for anyone / anything illicit.

(They didn't find anything, because despite the under-ager who did get drunk, we didn't encourage that sort of thing and did have a think-25 ID policy. I reckon the kids must have come in before 8 pm, when the door men started, and got someone else to come to the bar.)

Do report it, OP. Bars attract creeps and drugs and are not good places for young people to get drunk in.

Was this something like his football team’s Christmas party? If so what the hell were the supervising adults (coach/manager) doing while they were all getting pissed?! I think if I was going to “let rip” at anyone it would be them as, quite frankly, it’s a serious safeguarding issue. If the team is part of a larger club I would also escalate the complaint to the club management.

Surely your child knows they shouldn't buy alcohol? It's as much your fault as anyone else's.

No it isn't. The venue has a legal responsibility not to serve children.

As it's a sports club rather than a pub, I would talk to the coach. Kids getting drunk at a party is one thing, whist under the supervision of another adult in a licensed bar is another.

The club booking this should have made it really clear to the pub that there were people under 19 and the pub should have checked. Both at fault. I am a teacher and even at the sixth form socials and at the prom, wristbands are required by the places they hire to show who is allowed to buy alcohol from them. Of course he kids circumvent this by drinking outside etc but the pubs will not serve alcohol to anyone under 18.

There was a local venue renowned for not giving a shit and it was closed down.

It is very bad of this sports club not to show responsible behaviour around drinking and licensing laws.

Personally, I'd probably stomp up the pub and ask them what the hell they were playing at and I would definitely complain tot he club who should have a welfare officer - but I can understand you don't want to make yourself unpopular with the club.

I can't see how this is your fault at all OP - your DC was in the care of adults at an organised event!

Meant to write 18 above obviously!

I don't care of getting drunk at 16 is apparently a rite of passage... this should not be happening on the watch of supervising adults in licensed premises. Most drunk 16 year olds are drinking in parks, homes at house parties, or in some kind of sneaked fashion : not under direct supervision of (presumably all DBS checked!) adults!

If your DC doesn't generally go out (sounds like mine) I guess the only consolation s that eh didn't maybe drink all that much and it al just went to his head?

It's hardly great role modelling for a bunch of sporstpeople is it? But then when one looks at the drunken antics of the English cricket team , one can see how interconnected alcohol and (team)sport still are.

I read it that it was a sporting club’s party being held in a pub, so something like Mumsnet Colts U16s? But maybe I’ve misunderstood?

Yes, that's what I assumed, so the pub should absolutely have been informed and known that they were serving under 18s. It should all have been in the booking.

I would be taking it up with the sports club. My children play for a local rugby club, they're primary school mind, but there is a very strict policy on behaviour when at a club function, be it a match or a party. There is a code of conduct. And this covers alcohol consumption of players and coaches. A frank conversation with your son or daughter and a word with the club would be my starting points