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Should I report friends daughter for benefit fraud....

77 replies

woolythoughts · 08/12/2017 15:11

In fact I'm not even sure what she is doing is fraud it just strikes me as wrong.

18 months ago they had a second child. Three months later her and her husband "split up" and he moved back in with his mother.

I know her landlady is having to sell up next year.........she used to be my landlady and we know her well.

They've actually separated so that she gets housed as a single mother and then they intend on getting back together.

Problem is they have done it properly as if they have actually split up so probably aren't breaking any laws. Still stinks.

OP posts:
GiveMyHeadPeaceffs · 08/12/2017 15:13

No they're not committing fraud and unless you have some certain knowledge of their intentions then I'd say it's not really your business.

DeloresJaneUmbridge · 08/12/2017 15:14

It sounds shit but quite honestly the state of housing is so appalling that people are resorting to all kinds of behaviours to get social housing as most cannot afford the private rents even with a top up.

Doesn't make it right or moral though but there is little you can do about it as far as I am aware.

Or does it come under tenancy fraud? Would be hard to prove I think.

VioletHaze · 08/12/2017 15:15

As far as I'm aware they aren't breaking any laws. Benefits aren't given based on if you're having sex or are emotionally close with someone else, but on if you are forming a single household.

If they aren't living as a family right now, she's a single parent.

FannyWisdom · 08/12/2017 15:15

What the fucks benefits got to do with housing OP? Getting your goads in a muddle?

Frederickvonhefferneffer · 08/12/2017 15:19

Leave them alone and don’t be an interfering busy body

JonSnowsWife · 08/12/2017 15:21

Problem is they have done it properly as if they have actually split up so probably aren't breaking any laws. Still stinks.

If he's moved back in, they haven't done it properly.

HateIsNotGood · 08/12/2017 15:21

I didn't know you got "housed" because you are a single mother? Please do elaborate OP.

JonSnowsWife · 08/12/2017 15:22

Oh sorry, he's not moved back in yet but presumably will soon?

As that old fraud advert said "its not if we catch you, its when".

Birdsgottafly · 08/12/2017 15:23

My DD has a five month old, she has just split from her Partner. It is their second child.

She has tried her best to make it work.

It's probably looked to many that they were trying to commit fraud, but the 'trying' has even one sided and she would be destitute if she had relied

MsGameandWatching · 08/12/2017 15:23

Leave them alone and don’t be an interfering busy body

This x 100

JonSnowsWife · 08/12/2017 15:24

I didn't know you got "housed" because you are a single mother

You don't HateIsNotGood. Mums friends DD just spent the best part of a year in temporary accommodation before being offered a house. The fact she was a single mother and had three dependants did jot for her 'rehoused immediately' prospects.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 08/12/2017 15:24

Have you not got anything better to do or to worry about

Birdsgottafly · 08/12/2017 15:25

If she had relied on him.

We are hoping that it is over for good, but she wants to be a proper family.

You need to learn to myob.

Birdsgottafly · 08/12/2017 15:27

"I didn't know you got "housed" , because you are a single mother "

As said, you don't. Priority is often given to working applicants, with the best credit rating/income.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 08/12/2017 15:27

Life's hard enough for some with out snoops running clactailing to the DWP.
I trust youd also snitch on millonaire tax avoiders

AnnetteCurtains · 08/12/2017 15:29

They must be desperate for her to be a single parent for a while
I don't understand your need to interfere ?

MadMags · 08/12/2017 15:29

Unless he's living there, they're not doing anything wrong.

formerbabe · 08/12/2017 15:29

Mind your own business.

Blimey, MN is full of busy bodies

JonSnowsWife · 08/12/2017 15:29

As said, you don't. Priority is often given to working applicants,

Not so Bird. The friends DD I mentioned was a working applicant.

JonSnowsWife · 08/12/2017 15:31

They must be desperate for her to be a single parent for a while .

So that makes any potential fraud okay then? Confused

HateIsNotGood · 08/12/2017 15:31

Thanks to pps who pointed out that you don't get "housed" for being a single mother - I know I didn't - I just wanted OP to explain Smile.

Viviennemary · 08/12/2017 15:32

They are not breaking any kind of benefit regulation AFAIK. The system is at fault for making it more favourable financially for couples to live apart.

TheRollingCrone · 08/12/2017 15:32

Oh go on - just do it. Her and her children really deserve to end up in emergency temporary housing.

There is just not enough children living in temporary housing.

Corcory · 08/12/2017 15:33

Seems like extraordinary lengths to go to just to get housed. I mean splitting up your family just to defraud the benefits dept. Can't see it even if it were the case that you can do this, which I very much doubt.

MadMags · 08/12/2017 15:34

It's not potential fraud. You're allowed to have a relationship, you're just not allowed to live together.

And they're not living together.