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Should I report friends daughter for benefit fraud....

77 replies

woolythoughts · 08/12/2017 15:11

In fact I'm not even sure what she is doing is fraud it just strikes me as wrong.

18 months ago they had a second child. Three months later her and her husband "split up" and he moved back in with his mother.

I know her landlady is having to sell up next year.........she used to be my landlady and we know her well.

They've actually separated so that she gets housed as a single mother and then they intend on getting back together.

Problem is they have done it properly as if they have actually split up so probably aren't breaking any laws. Still stinks.

OP posts:
Awwlookatmybabyspider · 08/12/2017 15:36

Oh absolutely put an innocent child into poverty. I take it you're alright,Jack

LaurieFairyCake · 08/12/2017 15:42

Why aren't you more bothered about the landlady selling up and making her homeless ?

It might not be the landladys 'fault' but it's not the tenants fault she's going to need to be rehoused with a young baby.

I don't know why MORE people don't lie/cheat/steal to get secure accommodation when they have tiny children - I know I bloody would. I'm shocked we live in such a low crime country with the smallest amount of benefit fraud considering the precariousness of the fucking rental market, the price of housing, the lack of SECURE accommodation.

ZigZagandDustin · 08/12/2017 15:43

It sounds like they are going through a lit of shitty things to do this OP so on the basis of that, I think you should mind your own business. They clearly don't have a very nice life right now and I wouldn't begrudge them and their kids a home.

JonSnowsWife · 08/12/2017 15:46

It's not potential fraud. You're allowed to have a relationship, you're just not allowed to live together.

MadMags If they move back in together in the future without declaring it to the authorities then it most certainly will become fraud, so yes 'potential fraud' is the correct term.

Frequency · 08/12/2017 15:48

I don't understand why she's done this? She'll end up with lower priority due to being only two homeless people as opposed to three homeless people ergo less likely to be overcrowded in whatever shitty temp accommodation she gets offered when her LL sells up.

PositivelyPERF · 08/12/2017 15:50

My, aren't you a wonderful friend, OP. Just chomping at the bit to drop your friend's daughter in it, even though you're not sure if she's committing fraud. I'd hate to see what you're prepared to do to someone you don't like. 😒

Rudgie47 · 08/12/2017 15:52

Fucking hell OP you really need to look at yourself, you are so spitefull.

ReanimatedSGB · 08/12/2017 15:52

Anyone who reports anyone else for 'benefit fraud' is a nasty, ignorant, spiteful cunt needs to have a look at themselves. The UK economy has been destroyed by greedy corporations, tax dodgers and banks, not by poor people. Anyone who manages to get enough to live on out of the DWP is a hero. Grassing up your poor neighbours, especially if they are supposedly your friends, is despicable.

SilentlyScreamingAgain · 08/12/2017 15:53

You could write to your MP about the tax arrangements of Amazon or Boots, really save the country some money.

Katinkka · 08/12/2017 15:54

Keep your beak out.

upperlimit · 08/12/2017 15:56

I don't know why MORE people don't lie/cheat/steal to get secure accommodation when they have tiny children

Yes. I'm fairly sure my 'goodness' only extends as far as my children's safety. Thankfully, I haven't had to test the theory.

Fishandthechips · 08/12/2017 16:04

I am actually gobsmacked that somebody would be petty enough to do this. What difference does it make to you and your life if you tell on her (probably nothing) but the result on her and her children's lives could be very upsetting. Have you actually thought that she might be terrified of losing her home and feels this is the best way of getting security for her family. I'm bloody glad that your not a family friend of mine!

Emmageddon · 08/12/2017 16:13

Why would you even think about doing this? Would it make you feel morally superior? How ridiculous.

gamerwidow · 08/12/2017 16:13

Why don’t you save your outrage for the ridiculous lack of housing stock that forces people to desperate measures like this just to get an affordable home?

IglooThePenguin · 08/12/2017 16:13

It's just gossip and speculation OP, you aren't in a position to make a judgement so mind your own business. Lucky you to have the time to worry about this though, sounds like she has a tough life.

Hermagsjesty · 08/12/2017 16:19

You would be very, very unreasonable to cause more stress and hardship to a family who are obviously going through a difficult time just out of spite and pettiness.

If you’re really concerned about fraudulent, dishonest behaviour which takes money out of the public purse then use your time and energy to write to your MP and ask how they’ll be voting on measures to clamp down on tax avoidance.

pictish · 08/12/2017 16:22

No you shouldn't.
What you should do is remove your hooter from her business.

And what others have said about the cost and availability of housing etc. Easy seeing as you're not walking in her shoes eh?
You're all right Jack. Report report report from the comfort of your living room.
Ugh!

Bratsandtwats · 08/12/2017 16:26

I don't understand why so many people seemingly support benefit fraud on these boards?

I doubt you will be able to prove anything OP, if you genuinely suspect fraud then report it. If it is genuine then it's ok, if the powers that be decide it is fraud then I hope they get sanctioned.

pictish · 08/12/2017 16:30

Really? What are you doing to expose tax evaders Brats? You know...those bastards that actually cheat us all out of financial gain, unlike the drop in the ocean benefit fraud 'amounts' to? Are you reporting the tax evaders?

pictish · 08/12/2017 16:32

Or are you pointing your finger at the vulnerable and powerless? The have-nots?

Branleuse · 08/12/2017 16:36

if you want to do something really cuntish, then yes, report her.

expatinscotland · 08/12/2017 16:45

But what she is doing is not fraud. So reporting her would be a completely cuntish thing to do.

Ethylred · 08/12/2017 16:45

Sure, report them and let the DSS or whoever decide the merits.

loveisevol · 08/12/2017 16:48

Don't be a knob op.

ThisLittleKitty · 08/12/2017 16:52

Huh I'm really confused. Being a single parent isn't a priority need in my area. She wouldn't get any more priority for being single than she would for being in a relationship. I can only imagine her partner works? So she think that the council will suggest she private rents which is why she's saying she's single?