To tell my boss interviewee is a dick?

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I left my old job because of a cabal of sexist and bullying men. I was hired in my new one without mentioning it too much and wanted to leave it all behind.

Two in particular were hard to deal with. One was busy sleeping with assistants (through birth of his first child and beyond) being everyone's best friends but underneath a snake and undermining/scheming. Being straight forward I was pretty easy target. I was in my last job for more than 10yrs but last two nearly broke me and I ended up paranoid and cornered. I was being frozen out for speaking my mind.

Luckily new job really wanted me and after 2yrs have shed paranoia and am really enjoying myself again. Collegiate ambitious place. And I'm delivering for them.

Found out today we are interviewing one of the bullies who was so politically motivated! He was fired by the other horrible guy who found him too much of a threat..! Sounds like people like him...here (as people do because he's very good at winning everyone round and politics particularly with men).

So AIBU to try to block us hiring him? Risk really is that i may fail then I will be the person who didn't want great wonderful guy to come but he came anyway!!! So I must be the problem!! But if I don't I might regret it!!!

I'm crap at politics please help.....but so scared of hating my job again.

Absolutely - two of us moved jobs and a year later we noticed someone from our old job walking through the main gate for an interview. To say the least he was useless, his interview was doomed before he got in.

I used to work in a hospital so sounds very different from your line of work.
They employed an agency bloke to cover my maternity leave. He stayed on for a while after I returned. My boss (male) LOVED him. Thought he was a top guy.
I found him deeply unpleasant. He was dirty and his work was shoddy. It took me months to sort out the mess he made. He was also inappropriate and creepy. He talked a lot about his 'wife' She was 15 and was waiting for him in Thailand.

He applied for a permanent job in paediatrics and my boss was happy to give him a reference!
I was very young, not very confident but I walked round and asked to speak to the consultant. I told her honestly and factually why I thought they shouldn't hire him.
I had no power or influence but I felt I had to do something.

They didn't hire the filthy perv. I have no regrets.

Describe him as a Weinsten to those in the know.

Good for you @TheFirstMrsDV it takes guts to do that but clearly needed to be done. There's no place on a children's ward for a man marrying a child 😷

Absolutely do not meet him - terrible judgment and completely inappropriate in a recruitment process.

^judgement

Well, as a male employer of over 600 people, I find your comments OP judgmental. And I thought you may respond something along these lines, as you opening post indicated that you might. I was right.

Perhaps think about whether you are right for your current firm. You might not be.

Fuck off.

as a male employer of over 600 people

Oh fuck off mr fucking arrogant

Be3Al2Si6O18

I think I was understood p perfectly.

Please do not meet him, if he is as bad as you remember, why on earth put yourself in that situation? Bad bad bad idea 👿

Meet him?

As in, interview him anyway?

I don't get it. He's a prick!

Think like a man, OP, think like a man.

What would he do in this situation?

beryl's (Be3Al2Si6O18) phrasing implies he wouldn't know about teamwork any more than the cabinet - ignore him.

If the bod concerned plays office politics them definitely don't meet him or expose your views - he'll position the meeting with you as evidence of your approval / spin your views to his benefit whilst diminishing their impact.

Just say that you don't believe he's a fit with the culture you've found. Have one example ready but only use it if pressed.

seriously mention it. i always value any inside info from my team about ex colleagues or previous clients. no one wants to hire a dick!

Seconded. No-one wants to hire a dick they will have to replace.

Or a sexist bully.

I was going to respond to the very few people who have posted against my post.

However

I would tell them. I am sure your new employee wants a team that can work well together. If you don't mention then how are they to know. If they continue on to employ him then that tells you a lot about your employer's attitude to staff wellbeing.

However

You’ve decided against making more of a dick of yourself?

If Be3Al2Si6O18 doesn’t understand why someone who left their previous role due to workplace sexism / bullying / harrassment issues in a male dominated environment, is nervous of similar happening again, then they have no place in senior management.

I was going to respond to the very few people who have posted against my post.

Your post made you sound like a massive dickhead. Are you a massive dickhead?

Thankyou for all
Of your replies... I'm absorbing it all. I thought meeting without the paranoia that shrouded me at last place might give me a fresh perspective. If he comes in I need to have made this into a constructive relationship we will work together closely. So trying to do that myself seemed like a good idea.

Even if he doesn't come in it's a small industry friends rather than enemies is always a win.

Plus the other guy at last place now a common enemy so easy to position that if necessary.

I would use it as an interview clearly. Which my boss wouldn't set up as he'd expect me to already have a view.

However maybe I should be careful...

Mmmmm - maybe I'll delay until hiring process more firm

I thought the person managing 600 people just sounded like a troll to be honest. Maybe even daily mail because certainly in my industry no male boss managing that many people would make such sweeping comments. They seem far too dismissive so think unless that poster really has interesting things to say not worth the time.

why on earth would you want to meet him, that's crazy. Just be honest but diplomatic with your boss. You don't want this guy working with you as he is a big part of the reason you left your last firm. Your firm are asking your opinion on him for a reason, just tell them the truth

Rock is right,
also you say there are few women in your workplace.
So who will he abuse this time to make himself feel good ? this is going to rewind & happen again.

So you were asked your opinion but you set up a meeting with him effectively interviewing him again without your boss asking you to do that? I would fire you if I was your boss, you were asked what you thought, very far down the line so it's not like they really hold much weight with what you think, setting up a meeting is massively overstepping, massively. Honestly you are going to make yourself look a fool

You're making a big mistake meeting with him. If I were your boss I wouldn't be impressed. You were asked for your opinion, cancel the meeting and just give your boss your honest opinion then stay out of it. You could damage your reputation here.