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‘Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown’ - as it should be! Trump thread continued.

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TheClaws · 05/12/2017 05:30

From Shakespeake’s Henry IV, Act 3 Scene 1.

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AcrossthePond55 · 09/12/2017 13:43

Thanks for the links, even though they're hard to wake up to. But ignorance is NOT bliss and it is NOT folly to be wise.

My parents remembered the 'Great Depression' of the 30s. Dad used to speak of seeing the breadlines and Mum talked of 'tramps' coming to the back door from riding the rails looking for work to ask my grandma "Got any work in exchange for some food?".

Despite the crash, the 'mega-rich' were still rich but those down the ladder were suffering terribly. And the pervading thought was that poverty was a 'moral failure' and 'if you are poor, it's your own fault'.

Sound familiar?

Sigh. "Just another day for you and me in Paradise".

MedicinalGin · 09/12/2017 13:48

Have you seen his latest diahorrea of tweets? He’s spewed out lots of words about how the crowd was ‘loving’, presumably of him. He’s also made utterances about the ‘big contingent of Roy Moore fans’ in attendance. Imagine identifying yourself as a fan of a suspected serial sex offender who preys on young girls 😰. There are no words.

AcrossthePond55 · 09/12/2017 13:54

Oh, another another thing.

Neither set of grandparents were rich by any means, but no man left Grandma's back door hungry. She'd always give them something, if only a sandwich. And my grandad would pull some of the men out of the breadline for a day's work on their citrus ranch.

People took care of each other back then. They saw it as their duty. People remembered that 'there but for the Grace of God go I'.

OK, I need some covfefe. With a nice slug of Amaretto and a big spoon of sugar, both to sweeten my mood!

lionheart · 09/12/2017 14:40

This is long but so interesting.

Seth Abramson‏Verified account @SethAbramson 2h2 hours ago
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(THREAD) It's time to tell the biggest untold story of the 2016 election: how a cadre of pro-Trump FBI agents and intel officers—some active, some retired—conspired to swing the election to Trump. The story involves Flynn, Prince, Giuliani, and others. Hope you'll read and share.

1/ True Pundit is a pro-Trump fake news site that began publishing on June 9, 2016—the day that Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort met with Kremlin agents in Trump Tower to discuss the Kremlin's provision to the Trump campaign of incriminating material on Clinton.

2/ True Pundit would quickly reveal itself as having the same agenda Trump Jr. had when he met with Kremlin agents on the day True Pundit launched: its mission would be to destroy Clinton's candidacy by uncovering incriminating material about her—particularly via her emails.

3/ All articles on True Pundit are published anonymously. The only person publicly associated with the website operates under a pseudonym—"Thomas Paine." (Thomas Paine, a Founding Father of the United States, was instrumental in convincing the colonies to rebel against Britain.)

4/ From June 9, 2016 to June 12, 2016, it seemed clear True Pundit had been started up in a hurry—it published dozens of stories but no original reporting. More than 95% of stories were simply links to other sources, while True Pundit "originals" were two-sentence news summaries.

5/ Many of True Pundit's early news sources were predictable: Breitbart, The Daily Caller, InfoWars, The New York Post, The Washington Examiner, The Washington Free Beacon, Fox News, and The Daily Beast. Breitbart was far and away the most commonly linked-to website at the time.

6/ But True Pundit also, in its first three days, occasionally linked to mainstream news sources like The Washington Post, The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, The Wall Street Journal, CNN, NBC, ESPN, Reuters, The Guardian (UK), The Telegraph (UK), and The Independent (UK).

7/ That said, in its first 72 hours True Pundit also linked to two Russian news sources—RT and Sputnik—an intelligence-oriented site called "Intel News," and several fringe-right publications. A typical link assured readers Clinton would destroy America:

politicallyshort.com/2016/05/03/americas-last-election/

Then, on June 12th, 2016, the Orlando nightclub shooting occurred—and it seemed a switch had been turned on. True Pundit had its story. The site meticulously covered Omar Mateen, the 29 year-old from a moderate Muslim family who killed 49 people at an LGBT club called "Pulse."

9/ It's important to know that of the site's first several dozen stories pre-June 12, only one was both a) not a link to another source, and b) more than two sentences. This story—about the July DNC—claimed True Pundit (just 3 days old) had "police" and "security expert" sources.

10/ It must've seemed odd to any readers of True Pundit in those first 72 hours of operation to read that the Philly publication already had multiple sources in the Philadelphia Police Department and multiple Philly-based "recognized security expert" sources—but so they said.

11/ But Mateen changed everything. Suddenly True Pundit was publishing what it said were original ("exclusive") stories, all of which relied—or claimed to—on FBI sources. Not just one source, but multiple—and not just random sources, but sources close to the Pulse investigation.

12/ The mystery of this was dispelled almost immediately, when True Pundit wrote the following in an "exclusive" on Mateen after the shooting: "True Pundit has folks who worked for the FBI and other agencies on staff." It then claimed to have "unique insight" into FBI operations.

13/ Whether or not True Pundit really had ex-FBI staff, no reader could possibly know. But what was clear was that True Pundit was obsessed with the FBI, had—at a minimum—some basic knowledge of criminal investigation, and was very, very, angry at the current state of the Bureau:

14/ Two things must be noted here: first, that the complaint True Pundit has about the FBI—that it radically underestimates the threat of Islamist terrorism and values HUMINT too little in fighting terrorism—are exactly the anti-terror complaints Mike Flynn has widely publicized.

15/ Second, if True Pundit had told the truth about itself, it meant (a) the very purpose of the website was to give ex-FBI agents an opportunity to complain about the Bureau, and (b) the site's M.O. in doing so would be to use as sources current FBI agents upset with the Bureau.

16/ Keep in mind that, by June 2016, the FBI had already been investigating Hillary Clinton's emails for eleven months—since July of 2015. Indeed, the FBI's investigation into Clinton's emails had begun at almost exactly the same time Donald Trump announced his presidential run.

17/ Keep in mind, too, that True Pundit was launched less than a month before then-FBI Director James Comey announced—on July 5, 2016—that the Bureau was not going to bring charges against Clinton. By mid-June, current FBI agents would've just learned no charges were forthcoming.

18/ Rudy Giuliani would later describe the anti-Clinton elements at the FBI as being, during Summer/Fall 2016, not just "angry" but "boiling," and not just "boiling" but on the brink of "revolution." True Pundit appears to have been an outgrowth of that.

www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/11/04/giuliani_theres_a_revolution_going_on_inside_the_fbi_and_its_now_at_a_boiling_point.html

19/ So this is where I point out that there was one other story—besides the Omar Mateen story—that True Pundit was positively obsessed with (and doing "exclusive" reporting on, using FBI sources) during its first week: Hillary Clinton's emails and the FBI investigation thereof.

20/ Just 96 hours into its existence, True Pundit was running a multi-part "exclusive" on an FBI probe the site's authors' friends in the Bureau were conducting. The reports cited "intelligence sources" with extensive knowledge of the FBI investigation.

truepundit.com/hillary-clinton-google-created-covert-server-to-cloak-benghazi-era-emails-from-lawmakers-fbi/

21/ In "Part 2" of its "exclusive" reporting on the FBI investigation of Clinton's emails, the self-professed ex-FBI agents behind True Pundit quoted sources within the FBI investigation clearly angry at Mrs. Clinton for (they said) withholding her emails.

truepundit.com/google-built-hillary-a-secret-server-clinton-used-gmail-for-benghazi-era-emails-before-they-vanished/

22/ You have to understand the level of access to current FBI agents True Pundit was then claiming to have: the site, which had started up less than 100 hours prior, was claiming to have exclusive knowledge of prior FBI contacts with the nation's then-most infamous killer.

23/ By June 13, 2016, it was clear that True Pundit was a political outfit: it had quoted from and linked to a Trump press release, and had mercilessly attacked the Democratic candidate for president. Any active FBI agent speaking to True Pundit was—already—a Hatch Act violation.

24/ Here's all the info you need on the Hatch Act. It applies to the FBI and—while not a criminal statute—a violation of the Hatch Act is a violation of federal law and would get you fired from federal employment immediately (assuming a serious breach).

www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/7323

25/ So here's where things get complicated. Beginning in mid-June 2016, True Pundit switches to all original "reporting" and begins publishing longer stories. It is relentlessly right-wing: anti-immigration, pro-Second Amendment, pro-Trump, virulently anti-Clinton and anti-Obama.

26/ It also takes a hard turn into anti-Clinton fake news within its first week—as the story below demonstrates.

truepundit.com/hillary-clinton-once-called-disabled-children-fing-ree-tards-and-referred-to-jews-as-stupid-ks-while-bill-called-jesse-jackson-a-damned-nr/

27/ But here's what you really need to understand: the FBI quickly became aware of this website—at the highest levels—and acknowledged, internally, that the people behind True Pundit had access to intel from current FBI agents. Even James Comey was aware of True Pundit.

28/ And it matters that James Comey was (a) aware of True Pundit, and (b) believed they had sources within the FBI. Moreover, it matters that he knew—and he did—that True Pundit was angling for sources inside the Clinton probe, and that Comey's deputy thought he had them.

29/ Documents acquired via FOIA requests by (of all organizations) Judicial Watch reveal that Andrew McCabe, Comey's deputy, believed that True Pundit had "heavyweight" sources within the FBI. While Comey was skeptical, he acknowledged the sources were definitely FBI sources.

30/ When McCabe forwarded a True Pundit story to Comey on October 24, 2016, calling its source on Clinton "heavyweight," Comey demurred, saying "This still reads to me like someone not involved in the investigation at all, maybe somebody who heard rumors."

www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/judicial-watch-new-fbi-records-show-fbi-leaderships-conflicts-interest-discussions-clinton-email-investigation/

31/ The date here matters, as does Comey's response. This was the week Comey ultimately decided to go to Congress with his decision to reopen the Clinton case—and in using the word "still," we hear Comey's anxiety about the possibility details of the Clinton FBI probe would leak.

32/ It's clear from this email that True Pundit was a source McCabe thought active FBI agents on the Clinton case might consider leaking to, and Comey by no means dismissed that possibility. Why does it matter? Because it was this fear of a leak that led to The Comey Letter.

33/ The New York Times has written that Comey reopened the Clinton investigation—which decision FiveThirtyEight polling appears to confirm cost Clinton the election—because he felt news of "new" Clinton emails (from Anthony Wiener's PC) was "sure to leak."

www.nytimes.com/2016/10/30/us/politics/comey-clinton-email-justice.html?_r=1&utm_source=huffingtonpost.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pubexchange_article

34/ So, to recap: on October 24, 2016, Andrew McCabe warns his boss Jim Comey that True Pundit has access to "heavyweight" FBI sources—clearly implying sources within the Clinton probe. 72 hours later, Comey writes the "Comey Letter" because he's "sure" probe details will leak.
35/ Things are about to get confusing, so let me just step back and say that from mid-June 2016 to October 2016 True Pundit had become a big deal—they were getting regularly retweeted and discussed by right-wing media outlets. Including—by the way—WikiLeaks. (More on that later.)
36/ So while the fact that True Pundit had routinely published fake news was widely known by October 2016, so was the fact that it was run by men who purported to be ex-FBI and who credibly claimed to have FBI sources. The few times they were right were when they had FBI intel.

37/ But understand something else: within 60 days of its creation, True Pundit had become a "darling" of the 600 Russian Twitter accounts that routinely pushed anti-Clinton propaganda as part of the Kremlin's interference campaign. And True Pundit knew it.

www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/08/24/breitbart-other-alt-right-websites-darlings-russian-propaganda-effort/598258001/

38/ USA Today: "[Thomas Paine] did not deny playing a part in the Russian network's information operation....'we are flattered to be accused of participating in disinformation campaigns for government because as a startup that's the exact time-tested model we've been emulating.'"

39/ While USA Today wouldn't write about True Pundit until August 2017, the time-period of True Pundit's influence they're discussing—Summer/Fall 2016—is when Paine was proudly "participating in a [Russian] disinformation campaign" but also causing the FBI real fear over leaks.

40/ So I think this is a good time for you to hear Thomas Paine's voice. Here's a lengthy interview he gave (of course not giving his name or allowing his likeness to be visible, as he knew—and we'll discuss this more shortly—his operations were illicit).

lionheart · 09/12/2017 14:42

41/ Paine: "We started True Pundit as a way of doing something—instead of sitting around and complaining—when Clinton was running for president. We figured we would get some of the guys from the old band together—[unintelligible]-type guys and some intel guys we all worked with."

42/ So what these ex-FBI and intel guys did is libel Clinton for the 150 days leading up to the 2016 election. What they specialized in was falsely accusing her of crimes. On October 2, 2016, it was that Clinton had tried to order Julian Assange's murder.

www.snopes.com/julian-assange-drone-strike/

43/ On September 29, 2016, True Pundit's false claim—immediately echoed, like many True Pundit stories, by RT, the Kremlin-backed TV station—was that there was a criminal conspiracy between Clinton and Facebook (ironic now, I know) to steal the election.
www.dailydot.com/layer8/facebook-clinton-wikileaks-emails/

44/ In early September 2016, True Pundit claimed, falsely citing NYPD sources—as it often would (and this fact will become important)—that Clinton was wearing an invisible earpiece during a live "town hall" on NBC.

t.co/LZyNy8q0Ab

45/ As the election approached, the fake news coming from True Pundit often focused on false claims that Clinton had a major medical condition she was hiding. Again, these claims got spread from True Pundit to Russian media—and True Pundit knew about it.

t.co/m94ueGCSVx

46/ The same day True Pundit launched its fake news about a Clinton-ordered drone strike on the founder of WikiLeaks, the New York field office of the FBI took possession of Anthony Wiener's computer from NYPD—this was October 2, 2016. Comey knew the FBI was getting the computer.

47/ Unfortunately, the same FBI field office that had been occasionally leaking to True Pundit about the Clinton email investigation over the summer was the one now in possession of Wiener's computer—so when Comey instructed them to see if it had any new emails, they ignored him.

48/ Here's where I have to incorporate the entirety of an article I wrote last December for The Huffington Post about what the pro-Trump agents in "Trumplandia" (the New York field office of the FBI) did when Comey told them to work on the Wiener computer.

www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/was-rudy-giuliani-at-the-center-of-an-fbi-trump-campaign_us_585ad14ce4b014e7c72ed993

49/ We now know that Wiener's computer had only duplicate Clinton emails on it. But at the time Comey didn't know that. In fact, that's what he wanted his agents to find out—and IT experts will tell you that it wouldn't have taken long to get a sense that that was the situation.

  1. ct, that's what he wanted his agents to find out—and IT experts will tell you that it wouldn't have taken long to get a sense that that was the situation.

50/ Instead, Comey's agents sat on the computer, doing no meaningful work on it—certainly nothing that would confirm or deny whether it had any new (let alone inculpatory) evidence on it. Comey didn't find out his agents had done nothing he'd asked them to until late October.

51/ What the New York field office of the FBI did do during that period, along with NYPD, was issue threats—via True Pundit—that it would "leak" the content of the emails on Wiener's computer (which content wasn't known, of course, as they had no search warrant to search it).

52/ Comey assumed his agents would do one of the following: (1) Get metadata from the PC to confirm the emails were duplicates; (2) ask Abedin or Wiener—both cooperating witnesses—if the FBI could view the emails; or (3) get a warrant for the emails. They did none of these.

53/ The result was neither NYPD nor the FBI had read the emails on Wiener's PC, but were—according to True Pundit, at least—simultaneously leaking false information to True Pundit about what the content was. They wanted Comey to fear such leaks of false information—and it worked.

54/ On November 2, 2016—a week before the 2016 presidential election—True Pundit published the article below, which is the biggest pile of steaming bullshit dropped on America at any point during the 2016 election season. Every single word of it was false.

55/ Immediately—same day—Trump's top national security advisor, Mike Flynn, retweeted the article. Recall that Flynn was receiving undisclosed—illegally undisclosed—monies from Russia while advising Trump in the fall of 2015, and dined with Putin in Moscow in December 2015.

56/ Within 48 hours (in other words, as quickly as he could schedule a radio interview) Erik Prince, another Trump national security advisor—who's since admitted to having contact with Mike Flynn during the presidential campaign—spread the fake news via Steve Bannon's Breitbart.
www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=Xg1r3BAPVbo

57/ Prince is friends with Bannon—who was then the CEO of Trump's campaign—and just told Congress under oath Bannon was his contact with the campaign before and after the election. Here's audio of Prince spreading the Trumplandia-via-True Pundit fake news:

www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=Xg1r3BAPVbo

58/ But the reason you have to read the article itself—as odious as it is—is that it contains explicit threats against Comey should he not immediately indict Clinton:

—one, the article was published 6 days after Comey wrote the "Comey Letter"; two, the damaging emails True Pundit and/or NYPD and/or pro-Trump elements at the FBI were threatening to release didn't exist.

60/ As to the latter point, it's easily addressed: Jim Comey had no idea what was in the emails—on October 27, 2016 or November 2, 2016—because the very agents then threatening him via True Pundit hadn't acquired a search warrant or gotten permission to search the computer.

61/ The better question is how Comey would've known to be afraid of disclosures about the emails being published in True Pundit before the election. And the answer is (a) the McCabe email Judicial Watch uncovered, and (b) statements made by Trump advisors—particularly Giuliani.
62/ But first, understand that that True Pundit article is exactly—I mean exactly—what Comey was afraid of. Not knowing the content of the emails—because his men had deliberately not done the work to find it—anyone could claim NYPD/FBI sources and then lie about the emails.

63/ Comey believed such lies would (a) spread over right-wing media (they did); (b) be amplified by Trump aides (they were); and (c) appear in venues with enough credible connection to the FBI people would believe them and—worse still—he wouldn't know the truth to correct them.

64/ And (d) those lies would then swing a U.S. presidential election, and he'd be blamed for it. And if the FBI "leaks" turned out to be lies—which they were—the FBI would be disgraced and would be blamed for throwing the election to Trump. So he did the only thing he could do.

65/ The only option pro-Trump traitors within the FBI had left Comey was to (a) re-open the investigate publicly, then (b) promise to get to the truth of the emails on Wiener's PC so swiftly that no one would have time to leak or publish or disseminate lies about those emails.

66/ Reports at the time said Comey probably wouldn't be able to check all the new emails before the election—in part because of their number, in part because he had to go through the warrant process—which is why True Pundit, Flynn and Prince all felt clear to go public with lies.

67/ And it's why the CEO of the Trump campaign, Steve Bannon, felt clear to publish those lies via Breitbart. Then Comey surprised them all by doing the work in one week he'd earlier given an entire team of his agents three and a half weeks (from October 2 to October 27) to do.
68/ Okay, now watch this (especially the last few seconds) and check the date:

69/ 2 days before the Comey Letter was sent (so, October 26) Giuliani knew something big was coming—after spending the preceding days saying he had access to active FBI agents and retired FBI agents (like True Pundit's) who were incensed at Clinton.

70/ First Giuliani said he had access to "active" agents, then he denied it; he said a "big surprise" was coming, then he claimed he was only talking about a new ad campaign. No one believed it—especially given he kept referencing the FBI's anger at Comey.

71/ But now that we know all Trump's most nefarious men—Bannon, Flynn, and Prince, who were all meeting with one another during the campaign—were reading True Pundit, Giuliani's "I heard it from active agents" while also claiming "I heard it from retired agents" makes sense.

72/ It makes sense because True Pundit was made up of retired FBI agents speaking to—or claiming to have spoken to—active FBI agents, and the big surprise Giuliani predicted was likely the "news" True Pundit posted and that Giuliani's compatriots then spread throughout the media.

73/ Keep in mind, Giuliani hadn't seen the emails either—no one had, including the NYPD and FBI agents claiming to have seen them—so all he needed to know was that True Pundit, a site he followed and which likely included some retired FBI agents he knew, would be running a story.

74/ And given that both McCabe and Comey were aware of TruePundit—who it was comprised of, who they claimed to have access to, and what they were trying to do—the idea those "ex-intel guys" would have communicated their plans to Flynn and/or Prince and/or Giualiani makes sense.

75/ But the key is this: the NYT said Comey re-opened the investigation publicly because he was "sure" information about the new emails would leak. And the reason he thought that information would leak is because he knew about True Pundit and (via McCabe) FBI leaks made to them.

76/ All those leaks were illegal—as Flynn, Prince and Giuliani well knew given their backgrounds. And they equally knew that True Pundit stories were regularly being repeated on Russia media. And Flynn and Prince knew by November 2nd that in fact no one had seen those emails yet.

77/ What all this suggests is coordination between True Pundit, the FBI, NYPD, and members of the Trump campaign to stall the Clinton email investigation just long enough to either (a) force Comey to re-open it, or (b) be able to claim whatever they wanted about the "new" emails.
78/ Remember how I said Bannon's Breitbart was the chief retweeter of and source for True Pundit—along with Russian bots. Remember how I said that Bannon, Flynn and Prince all met during the campaign, and all jumped on the True Pundit story the second it came out on November 2.

79/ This has all the hallmarks of a domestic criminal conspiracy—"criminal" because it involves fraud and obstruction of justice. And it involves the Trump campaign and Russian bots and pro-Trump elements in the FBI and NYPD working in concert. So why isn't it being investigated?

80/ Inspector General Horowitz is looking at it, we're told. That's not good enough—not when Trump is stacking the deck by claiming the FBI had a pro-Clinton bias, even as he knows it was working in concert with his men. Enough. Let's starting discussing this as a nation. {end}

SanFranBear · 09/12/2017 15:02

That footage of that poor man being shot in a hotel corridor Sad What the hell happened? He did nothing wrong , stumbled and is dead... I can't get over him saying "Please don't shoot me"...

I wish I'd never seen that

Roussette · 09/12/2017 15:15

Bigly thanks for that link, there's hope out there. Not only are they doing this, but they've bought a piece of land on the Mexican border and are going to go through every court in the land to keep it. It's where The Fat Orange One's wall would have to go through Grin

Also Pain thanks for all the info, I'm reading it

cozietoesie · 09/12/2017 16:29

I've just rewatched the last episode of The Handmaid's Tale on All 4 so I'm feeling dark. This may be the time for my quick break...........

lionheart · 09/12/2017 16:59

It's one of the reasons I've avoided the adaptation.

But take this with you cozie Gin Cake

And this image:

Adam Quinton‏
@adamquinton

This is the most encouraging pic I have seen in a long time. @realdonaldtrump enters #PensacolaRally to a half full auditorium. At least some sign of a breaking fever - finally!?

‘Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown’ - as it should be! Trump thread continued.
lettuceWrap · 09/12/2017 17:19

A screengrab of his latest tweets... packed to the rafters Hmm still obsessed by the size of his crowd.

‘Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown’ - as it should be! Trump thread continued.
lettuceWrap · 09/12/2017 17:21

As for the next tweet, promoting Roy Moore- vile Angry

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 09/12/2017 18:36

Also a positive sign?

Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1
Ex-congressional Republican and Breitbart spokesperson Kurt Bardella says he’s leaving the GOP over its support of Roy Moore, will become a Democrat: “This is not a party that is trustworthy enough to protect innocent children from sexual predators.”

t.co/N7xaozrsMt?amp=1

Lweji · 09/12/2017 18:54

Wait...

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 6h6 hours ago

CNN’S slogan is CNN, THE MOST TRUSTED NAME IN NEWS. Everyone knows this is not true, that this could, in fact, be a fraud on the American Public. There are many outlets that are far more trusted than Fake News CNN. Their slogan should be CNN, THE LEAST TRUSTED NAME IN NEWS!

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 6h6 hours ago

Fake News CNN made a vicious and purposeful mistake yesterday. They were caught red handed, just like lonely Brian Ross at ABC News (who should be immediately fired for his “mistake”). Watch to see if @CNN fires those responsible, or was it just gross incompetence?

So...
They made ONE mistake. Vicious and purposeful.
But they are FAKE NEWS, right? So, why so upset by the one mistake?
Does that mean the rest is TRUE NEWS?

cozietoesie · 09/12/2017 19:26

Must do. Smile

cozietoesie · 09/12/2017 19:26

I've had my break. Wink

lionheart · 09/12/2017 19:39

Trump interrupts talking about veterans to mock Arnold Schwarzenegger for 'bombing' on The Apprentice.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-arnold-schwarzenegger-pensacola-florida-rally-a8101131.html

Alwaysinmyheart · 09/12/2017 20:18

To my American friends, watching from the UK, 200,000 people have lost their homes in California, why isn't Trump doing everything in his power to stop this disaster? All I see him doing is tweeting and holding pointless rallies. He really is a monster.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 09/12/2017 20:20

Justin Miller
@justinjm1
Ex-FBI agent: Trump "says nary a negative word about the Russians, but will insult us every chance he gets"

amp.businessinsider.com/peter-strzok-mueller-trump-russia-investigation-2017-12

Natasha Bertrand
@NatashaBertrand
I spoke to over a dozen former FBI agents for this story. Many wanted to stay off the record, but the message was broadly the same: agents are human. They are allowed to have political beliefs. And many were confused by Strzok’s abrupt demotion.
“He’s been thrown to the wolves.”

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 09/12/2017 20:27

Amy siskind weekly update:

m.facebook.com/amy.siskind/posts/10214656687235978

cozietoesie · 09/12/2017 20:57

Thanks, Pain. Smile

lionheart · 09/12/2017 21:02

Dangerous ground.

Renato Mariotti‏Verified account
@renato_mariotti

The right wing is mounting a coordinated attack on Mueller, aimed at convincing the Republican base that his investigation is illegitimate. If Trump fires Mueller and FBI leadership, the President and his friends will be above the law.

lionheart · 09/12/2017 21:20

I didn't know 'hate-watching' or a 'robocall' were things.

thehill.com/homenews/campaign/364119-trump-to-record-robocall-for-moore-days-before-election-report?rnd=1512853658

‘Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown’ - as it should be! Trump thread continued.
cozietoesie · 09/12/2017 21:21

This all reeks of Nixon.

cozietoesie · 09/12/2017 21:22

He needs some excuse........

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