Swaying the sex

[Orangesandlemons1]

I have a wonderful ds and I am thinking about trying to conceive a second. If I do this baby will definitely by last. I’d be delighted with a baby of either sex and I know it is not a right to have a child. It may not even happen this time I’m older now and people don’t always conceive as easily second time.

I would if I was to be completely honest be thrilled with the idea of a little girl because I already have a boy who is fantastic, so would like one of the other sex to experience having a daughter. I will probably get a flaming for this but if I was to choose I would choose to have a girl this time. Are there any mumsnetters who tried to sway the odds with diet/conception timing to a baby girl, and did you have a girl?

Then I think to myself is it even reasonable to try doing this (even if it’s not very scientifically effective). A healthy baby is all anyone should really be aiming for and I would be equally happy with a another ds. Is it reasonable to try to alter the course of natures sex selection with natural methods? I just can’t shake that nagging feeling a little girl would be lovely.

It's not always people swaying for a girl.
My best friend is currently swaying for a little boy and is putting baking soda in her vagina daily to help keep her PH high.

Lime juice tampons, Jesus fucking Christ.

None of these work. None of them. People always have a 50% chance of getting what they want, which means you will always, always find loads of people prepared to swear that X method "works". Well, I could come out with some bullshit off the top of my head right now and it would have a "good success rate", because if you conceive at all you have a good chance of getting what you "want". The number of people prepared to swear by Shettles even though it's based on a complete scientific misunderstanding should warn you of that.

If it were that possible and easy to influence gender, a) we'd be fucked - gender imbalances are very bad for a society b) do you think there would be so much sex-selective abortion in the world?

I was going to suggest the website 'gender dreaming' too

@FourForYouGlenCoco

I wouldn't worry about people considering your son as "lesser". This world is made for an controlled by men. If anything, your son will learn soon enough that he can consider himself better than a girl and people will validate him on that.

Four I would probably want to kill anyone who thought my ds was less for being a boy. If I can’t have another child for whatever reason I would still feel like I had won the lottery to have one ds as some people won’t have a child. I would never think I wished he had been a girl I can’t imagine anyone who would think that that way.

If I’d had a girl first I would be swaying for a boy this time. I have just had a dream about one of each. I can see the point about two of the same being friends but just the thought of a big brother and little sister is the picture I have in my head and I can’t shake it.

I’m going to research the methods a bit more and see what happens. If I am lucky to conceive at all again and have a ds then he will be loved just as much as What is meant to be will be.

Oh and I will never tell anyone in real life my at the moment preference.
I say at the moment because if have another ds, he will of course become what I had always wanted anyways.

I think if you are going to try any of these ludicrous things then you need to set a time limit, because all of them (except from moderate changes in your diet) are going to seriously reduce your chances of conceiving at all.

None of it works, its all bollocks. People will swear blind that it works as they did it and had the sex they wanted, but they would have done so anyway so it means nothing at all.

You can arse around all you like shoving things from your kitchen cupboards up your foof, but the odds of having a girl remains the same. The odds of a serious itch increase massively though.

Margaret I am very close to 30 which I know is not at all considered late for childbearing but it did take me ten months to conceive ds. Iwas thinking more about diet things that won’t impact timing at all and will maybe try the timing if I can get my cycles tracked properly.
You don’t know for sure none of the methods don’t work at all to increase the odds so I don’t think it’s ludicrous at all.

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You can arse around all you like shoving things from your kitchen cupboards up your foof, but the odds of having a girl remains the same. The odds of a serious itch increase massively though" 😂😂

Lime juice tampons sounds like an invitation for a nasty thrush infection.

You don’t know for sure none of the methods don’t work at all to increase the odds so I don’t think it’s ludicrous at all.

That's like saying that I don't know for sure that fairies don't exist. If they worked, there would be statistical proof. There isn't, because they don't.

Oh, and if diet made a difference then, since diet varies so much globally, there would be countries overrun with girls and countries with too many boys. But that only happens when people do the only thing that actually works: sex-selective abortion.

As does baking soda lostit good grief I can understand wanting to have one of each but that cannot be healthy.

We do know they don't work, the methods have all been scientifically tested and do not work.

We are thinking about trying to conceive dc3 very soon. I already have 2 ds with a pretty small age gap and would quite fancy having a girl this time as it would definitely be my final baby. We have conceived very quickly on previous occasions and am not really in a rush as dc2 is only 6 months so wouldn't mind if it took longer.

However, I would also be very happy with another boy (and expect that's what I'd get!) and under no circumstances would i be willing to consider some kind of lime tampon. WTF?!

Margaret, So if a slightly more or less acidic diet changed the odds very slightly of conceiving a boy or a girl, then whole countries would be overrun with one sex or the other. No exaggeration there then is there

More likely if it was true then the slight variations in diet, making slight differences to the odds for each woman would even out across the population as a whole.
For it to be disproven it would have to be studied in a controlled way. Which as far as I’m aware no one ever has and I don’t think it should be. Too many ethical issues. But that doesn’t stop me wanting to try anyway.
Even if it isn’t true, is there any harm for example in drinking peppermint tea as a Pp suggested. Hardly detrimental to health is it.
I don’t think I will be shoving anything up there however I can assure you of that. But that you for the concerns Around any potential vag infection

Tiny sparkly shoes do you have links to the research that has disproven these methods. I’m aware of the stuff around shettles but not diet.

We do know they don't work, the methods have all been scientifically tested and do not work.

Exactly. There have been women have been desperate for one sex or the other for all human history (historically, normally boys). If there were ways to make that significantly more likely we would know about it. It sort of reminds me of a genuinely helpful thing my DH said after I was freaking out that one of my miscarriages was the result of having a couple of drinks before I knew I was pregnant: 'Margaret, women have been trying to end unwanted pregnancies for all time. If a bottle of Stella and half a glass of prosecco did it, no one would have ever tried to stick a coat hanger up themselves'. It is pretty unlikely that at this stage someone is going to find a brand new way of controlling gender that relies not on high-tech/invasive medicine, but on sticking stuff from the kitchen cupboard up yourself...

So if a slightly more or less acidic diet changed the odds very slightly of conceiving a boy or a girl, then whole countries would be overrun with one sex or the other. No exaggeration there then is there

What's your definition of 'changing the odds very slightly'? Because if it did it by even 2% then across a whole population that would result in a significantly unbalanced number of baby boys/girls being born - which we don't see. And there are huge differences in diet across cultures, so there is no way that would all just 'balance out' if it made a real difference. Which it doesn't.

The only things shown to have a statistical significance (and its correlation rather than causation) is that you are more likely to have a girl if you are starving, and more likely to have a boy during wartime.

Not particularly useful though.

No Margaret I don’t think 100% that we would necessarily know if eating a certain diet increased the odds slightly One way of the other.
I’m very sorry to hear about your miscarriage and agree with your Dh. However I think that this is different situation.
I’d be interested in any controlled research trials that have tested diet. If these have been conducted. None to my knowledge however.

No Margaret I don’t think 100% that we would necessarily know if eating a certain diet increased the odds slightly One way of the other.

Right, well since this isn't an argument just a statement of an illogical belief I'm out of this discussion. I hope you get the girl you want - though you'll then take it as proof for ever more that you're right!

Sex before ovulation is more likely a girl, sex during is more likely boy. I didn't actively do this as 1st pregnancy was a surprise and 2nd I didn't have much choice when we had sex but it came true for me.

The first surprise one was a boy. I worked back over my dates and we had sex and conceived him the day I ovulated.

The second I was tracking my ovulation down to the hour. We had sex on the Tuesday, OH then was away and i ovulated Friday evening. Had a girl.

I do think it sways it a bit.

Not true.

I have to say, I am very relieved that I don't "recognise" the usernames of any of the people posting shite about methods which "worked" for them.

Because nothing signals "I'm an idiot" more than someone who believes and says that drinking lemon hot water or shoving a fucking lime-soaked tampon up your vagina makes a difference to the sex of a baby.