To be surprised that M&S has a section on their website for Modest Clothing?

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What's that all about then? Why does it warrant its own category?

Many religious women describe their dress as "modest". Why shout them down?

All I see is M&S giving Muslim women to experiment different styles and latest trends

Call it Muslim then! Modest is the wrong word to use in Britain.

YouTube keeps suggesting I watch this American woman, she has an entire series based on her modest outfits. She's grimly fascinating but seems happy enough.

Call it Muslim then!

I can just imagine the bigoted Daily Mail articles that would ensue from that....

Who cares what The DFail think?

Too many people in this country, unfortunately

I remember the Islamophobia that kicked off when Nike started selling a hijab

So let’s offend 50% of the population instead!

Yes there is modest clothing for men as well
Not on the M&S site there isn't. Which begs the question, why is there a need for a specific section for women but not for men? Are women so thick they're unable to find long skirts, high necked jumpers and loose blouses unless they're in a special "modest" section?

m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Omu2BguKUI

I have no issues with the term modest but I LOVE the floral skirt

MsHarry doubt very much it's offending 50% of the population. The vast majority most likely won't care.
Just like the mumsnet campaigns about 'padded bras' for 8 year olds and all the rest of it. Most people just aren't bothered about it.

@noeffingidea, yep, more like 5%.

I just can't bring myself to be offended no matter how hard I try.

MsHarry plenty of regions require modest dress. It's not only Muslims .

It seems good that they put the outfits together and you can pick and choose what you go for. I for one like it and have no problem with so I would say YABU

It's not just Muslims. My son goes to school with a lot of Christian refugees from the ME. They also dress like this and are often mistaken for Muslims. Also a fairly large number of Orthodox Jewish women.

Many religious women describe their dress as "modest". Why shout them down?

Because they have alternative ways of expressing themselves which don't carry an implied judgement of other women.

Romany women also have to dress modestly in female clothing, and that includes no trousers or leggings.

Its the term 'modest' thats the problem, not the style of dress or who its for.

www.thejc.com/news/world/vogue-does-strictly-orthodox-fashion-1.24115

They need to get someone who knows about fashion to sort those 'outfits' out . Just because someone wants to dress modestly, doesn't mean they want to dress like someones granny.

My grandma was rather - errrr, 'individual' in her dress sense.

The cut may have been modest (well she was born pre ww1) but the fabric, colours, patterns and accessories were definitely 'statement' 😁.

Modest absolutely is a fashion term, like grunge, vintage, boho, luxe. It is also increasingly mainstream; lots of celebs pictured on the red carpet in covered up dowdy dresses. Look at any upmarket brand's latest collection; plenty of modest stuff.

Granny-chic?

Modest absolutely is a fashion term, like grunge, vintage, boho, luxe

No it's not. Because all of those labels are neutral and pass no value judgement on those who wear it or those who do.

To put it a different way; we could label non-modest clothing as 'progressive' women's clothing. But if we did half the people on here saying 'Oh it's just a fashion name' would be screaming in offence that implied that modest clothing was somehow backwards or regressive and whinging about how racist and prejudiced it was. But when the judgement and snide implications go the other way apparently that's fine.