To not see the big deal with wearing fur

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If it's vintage then you aren't really supporting an industry or creating demand for new fur garments.

Some of the comments against Alexandra have been pretty vile. I have an old piano that has ivory, but it's second hand and surely it's better that it's used after being made than just thrown away?

Most furs are made from farmed animals.

I have some gorgeous furs I inherited from my gran, and I'm not confining them to the back of the wardrobe because some sanctimonious, holier-than-thou character says I shouldn't dare wear them in public.

If the best argument you’ve got is name-calling people for giving a shit about animal welfare, it’s pretty sad.

Hmmm...

What if you live in a cold climate? It’s ok to be anti fur when it never gets colder than -5, or -10. but what if it’s -35? Or -40? Have any of you experienced living in that kind of climate?

I live in Sweden and lots of people wear fur here. Synthetics don’t keep you warm at those temperatures - you need wool, down or fur. There is an ethical label used here which ensures you’re not buying fur from China or places with poor farming practices. I know a few people with old coats that their grandfathers/great grandfathers trapped themselves!

I wear wool, I wear down, and I have a few bits with fur (gloves, Pram bag, hat etc.) all are labelled as ethical and I’m ok with that. I wouldn’t buy it without knowing the provenance just like I don’t buy factory farmed meat or eggs. We try to buy local stuff produced on farms near us to high standards.

I have no problem with the use of animals in farming/meat/dairy/fur/leather. I DO think there needs to be a set of higher ethical husbandry standards.

In NZ, where I used to live , possums are an ecological disaster. They need to be killed - the campaigns against fur in the 90s meant that possum numbers exploded (21 million of the buggers at one point) and untold damage done to the ecosystem including contributing to extinctions of unique birds and trees. So there, wearing possum fur or using it mixed with merino is on balance helping the environment.

They should be given a respectful burial or cremation

I am assuming this is a joke.....

Also - wool is different. Sheep are shorn without them dying in the process. I know that it doesn't make a different to vegans, but it's quite a different scenario to leather or fur.

I was thinking about this the other day. My eBay feed came through with ‘most popular’ items on EBay. It was mainly fur hoods, coats and scarves from China. Even after adjusting settings to ‘foLocstion - UK only’ it was full of Chinese fur. So yes, it’s obviously fashionable again and people go for the cheapest option. Although why you’d want to wear fur in such a wet climate is anyone’s guess. Surely wax jackets are better suited to the UK. Warm and practical.

When I was left my grandmothers fur, I had it turned into a cushion and a stool cover so still used but not ‘on display.’

Just a thought...if you don't wear animal products and maybe wear things like fleece based products, then your contributing to polluting the environment with microfibres and killing marine life...

Location - UK only ffs

So like I said unless you are a vegan who does not wear any wool or leather then you don’t have a leg to stand on.

Seriously? The best argument you can come up with is “other people do other stuff”? We don’t tolerate that thinking at our primary school.

There are so many tech fabrics available these days that there’s no justification for killing animals for their fur for the first world market.

To me it's not a problem that she wears fur. It's that she fronted a campaign for peta then went on to wear it!!

I can't afford fur but i could I would wear it.
Why?

Because I eat meat (the way some animals is treated is horrific too)
I drink milk (cows treated terribly)
I wear other animal hide such as leather.

Unless you are a vegan I don't think anyone can genuinely cast a shadow on anyone wearing fur.

A piano player doesn’t have to carry her piano on her back on the street to inspire others to start.

And a violin player doesn't have to carry her violin everywhere to inspire others to bang on the wall.

I think the fur industry needs to be targeted. Not the people buying it.
I would 100% wear fur from a humanely killed animal.

Unless you are a vegan I don't think anyone can genuinely cast a shadow on anyone wearing fur.

Such a weak argument.

if someone has a different opinion and expresses is they must be hysterical or wailing etc ffs.

Screeching is a common one.

Most shop available Tech fabrics don’t perform as well at very low temperatures. In the wet climate of the UK then yes, tech fabrics are great. Fur isn’t a great option for uk climates.
But not in very cold climates. Nothing that’s generally commercially available insulates like down or fur. When it’s -35, if you’re wearing polar fleece, you’re not staying out long.

Polar/synthetic Fleece is horrible stuff. It’s not breathable, so it’s actively dangerous for babies because they can overheat in it (I’m always shocked to see fleece PJs on sale in the UK) it’s plastic - it doesn’t biodegrade. It’s just awful for the environment. Wool is much much better, as long as it’s sourced from farms which don’t use practices like mulesing. I have worked on sheep farms in the uk and in NZ as a student and sheep are not hurt by shearing at all. There’s an alpaca farm I buy yarn from too - the animals have the life of Riley - shorn once a year, and frolicking around the rest of the time, occasionally petted by visitors to the coffee shop.

I love fur - I once had a boss who had a full length mink coat and I used to love the feel of it - also had old furs in the 80's when I was being 'alternative' but I don't think it's justifiable to wear it - for the reasons above

The industry is cruel - the animals aren't well treated or humanely killed - it's sad and brutal

If you could get ethically produced fur I'd wear it - but for now I couldn't do it

Actually several of my videos have been viewed by many online of me and my piano so that kills that argument.

For what it's worth, I'm vegetarian and trying to go vegan but when my gran died her coats were given to people that wanted them rather than thrown away. The animal has been dead a long time, they were all very Cruella DeVille so I wouldn't wear them but I'm happy that other people found joy in them. It's the hypocrisy I don't like.

the fur industry is vile. There is no justification for it. Besides, synthetics are (as demonstrated by NASA among others) entirely suitable for providing warmth.
I also find the farming for animals for meat and milk abhorrent (which seems to mean my opinion is valid 😁) but fur is still a bit further along the line of unnecessarily cruel imo

And a model wearing fur (even vintage) supports the fur trade and is morally at odds with the self serving activity of taking part in the PETA campaign

Lapin: unless you are a vegan who does not wear any wool or leather then you don’t have a leg to stand on.

This is nonsense.
Shearing sheep is not comparable to skinning animals for fur.
Leather is a by product of the meat industry and is harvested from animals that have been killed in a humane way. Unlike fur.
There are ethical sources for meat and dairy and it can be argued that a vegan diet is not suitable for everyone. Humans are omnivores - we can tell that from our teeth and digestive system - and sourcing and maintaining a healthy vegan diet - is expensive and time consuming.
This is not true of wearing fur. There are many, many, cheaper, more ethical and attractive materials to wear.

The only reasons people wear fur are vanity and/or to display wealth.

I see vintage fur like I do Golliwog dolls.

An unfortunate product of its time, but has no place in modern society.

Wearing vintage fur makes real fur fashionable again. And I don’t agree it’s ethical.

Farming of animals, not for

Sadly shearing sheep is often done under improper conditions making it traumatic for the animals, and it often results in injuries. And leather is not a true by product of the meat industry.
A quick google will give you plenty of evidence for both of these points.
So fur, leather, wool, dairy produvts and meat all contribute to animal suffering especially with today’s highly industrialised and commoditised farming.

You do know some animals are skinned alive so you can have the best quailty fur.

In the meat and leather industry the animal is killed humanily before its harvested i would be against meat if we didnt bother to kilk the animal first before we started cutting bits of for meat.