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AIBU?

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AIBU with Christmas / general in-law situation?

73 replies

664485867669432fjffhththththth · 26/11/2017 17:31

Evening all, new on here but coming to the end of my tether with the IL'S and wanted to know AIBU? To cut a long story short-ish (sorry for long post), DH is a kind and gentle man - he just wants everyone to get along. He has 'kept up appearances' with MIL and FIL into his thirties but is now growing tired of 'not being good enough.'

DH recently chose to leave his high-pressured job and set up his own business. This has been a great success and he is happier and more successful (including wage-wise) compared to his old job. However, because it is not a traditional 9-5, FIL in particular is insistent that it is a 'ridiculous idea' and DH is 'bound to fail.' We visited last week and they kept him in the living room until 1.30pm quizzing him on every aspect of his life and criticising his every move e.g. no pension (even though he's started a private one etc). They even went so far as to compare my career with his and tell him that he needed to be more like me - I had to step in and emphasise that my job is very different etc.

So the background is that such interrogations have now been going on for over 2 years. We brought a house about 18 months ago and so far they have visited twice. The last time, the FIL phoned up at the last minute and said they would stay in a local hotel instead of at ours (we have 4 bedrooms and plenty of room). I assured them I would love them to stay but they had already booked elsewhere. They then refused to eat in (even though I had purchased ingredients for a lovely roast).

DH usually just says 'this is how they've always been' and doesn't like to cause a fuss / confrontation but it's becoming unbearable. He is so upset after he's visited (we go down about every 3 weeks - it's a 6 hour round journey). He tries to phone regularly but FIL often criticises him for not keeping in touch with MIL.

MIL herself is not the easiest person to get along with. I work in obesity prevention and she recently told me I couldn't go on stage at a conference as I would 'be a hypocrite and everyone would be pointing at the stage saying who's that fatty.' This was over lunch and DH was there although FIL was not. DH knew I was upset but he genuinely does not know how to stop his parents being so horrible.

Anyhow, where this is all leading is Christmas! Having agreed to come to us again like last year, they have now said they want to stay down south as they have had a better offer. I have tried to be diplomatic about this (after all, everyone is entitled to spend Christmas as they want and like DH I just want everyone to get along) but they are now requesting that we spend 3 days down there and go out for a meal with all of their friends etc.

DH wants to be at home and wanted to host them....he doesn't feel they participate in his life and is tired of being away from home visiting them. He also feels his parents are worse in their own space and is going to spend the whole of the holiday being attacked for his life choices. For my part, I feel my parents have not really been considered and that FIL and MIL are making excuses e.g. drives too long (FIL regularly drives to Scotland for golf and they drive to a holiday home every weekend which is the same distance as our house) when I would rather they admit they just don't want to spend Christmas up here.

So I guess AIBU about them in the first place? And secondly, about Christmas? DH is insistent that he doesn't want to go to the boxing day event. Should we just keep the peace? FIL is 71 and is in excellent health - in another 10 years, I would happily drop everything and go there but I feel if we give in now it will just create even further inbalance. Any advice greatly appreciated!

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664485867669432fjffhththththth · 26/11/2017 17:35

I should probably add - their criticisms are (I hope) illogical - I'm a size 10 and as much as I like my chocolate, I have never been bothered about my weight. DH has a great pension pot so far from his previous pot and we have been wise in our money management (no debt / can afford holidays / invest savings wisely etc).

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GrockleBocs · 26/11/2017 17:35

Don't keep visiting so much. Stay home for Xmas. Why keep on setting yourselves up for punishment?

PurplePumpkinHead · 26/11/2017 17:38

Really, just stop trying to be a peace keeper.

Spend Christmas at home and don't bother visiting. When they say 'oh we really miss you' just say they are welcome to visit.

munkynutts · 26/11/2017 17:41

Your man needs to grow some serious balls.

664485867669432fjffhththththth · 26/11/2017 17:41

I guess because I fear what's coming next - the 'you've changed him' and also because DH does miss then. Call it Stockholm Syndrome, but because he's always done their reckoning, he finds it incredibly hard to say no and keeps believing that every visit will be different.

I think reading back over my own post, the time has come to bite the bullet and say a firm 'no' and stand by it. Only hope DH doesn't get hurt.

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PurplePumpkinHead · 26/11/2017 17:42

Your DH is welcome to see them. It doesn't mean you have to or facilitate it.

Poshindevon · 26/11/2017 17:42

Why spoil your christmas for this mean spirited pair.
Tell them that you had made plans and are not able to go. Your husband wants to stay at home, and who can blame him. You should put your husband before his parents. Its about time you and your husband stood up to his parents and stop letting them rule your lives.

Slightlyperturbedowlagain · 26/11/2017 17:45

Blimey have Christmas at home without them and enjoy it. Why do you go to see them so much if they are such hard work? Their criticisms do sound very illogical so they seem to be just belittling you both. Honestly I'm all for trying to keep family contact if it's appropriate but it sounds like you need to start being far less at their beck and call. You will never win with people like that so minimise your interactions and get on with having a great life Smile

picklemepopcorn · 26/11/2017 17:45

Yes, time to help DH wean himself off them.

Storminateapot · 26/11/2017 17:46

'Thanks for the suggestion, but when you said you weren't coming we made other plans. Sweet of you to ask us, hope you have a great time'. (Tinkly laugh)

As for the rest of it they sound awful, but they seem to picking on your DH more than you and it's up to him to stand up to them, or not. Calling you obese at a size 10 is bizarre - was she trying to be humorous? Confused

Slightlyperturbedowlagain · 26/11/2017 17:47

I'm also guessing that with his own business your DH may need to stay at home in case there's an emergency and he needs his files etc Wink

wasthataburp · 26/11/2017 17:49

What about your parents, were you hosting them as well for Xmas?

Hulder · 26/11/2017 17:55

Every 3 weeks for people who are horrible?

I actively like my DM and she's ill, but due to circumstances I still haven't visited her for 5 months.

See less of them. And stop feeling guilty. You reap what you sow.

CisCucumber · 26/11/2017 17:56

Why do you let them get away with being so rude.
You should have said that is a very rude thing to say.
Your DH should walk away and say it is my choice and nothing to do with you then refuse to discuss
You are letting them walk all over you. See them less and stay home for Xmas

664485867669432fjffhththththth · 26/11/2017 17:56

Munkynutts - haha I know. We've had the talk a lot of times. He is so fantastic in every other walk of life and is dependable, forceful and protective when necessary everywhere else....just seemingly never with MIL and FIL.

Thankyou for your replies everyone - it's making me feel much more able to have DH's back in helping him put his foot down.

Storminateapot - MIL alternates her focusing between me and DH. I'm a lawyer, I tend to fend off her questions / turn it back around (hence the insults - think she's always had a problem with her weight and seems convinced I must also be bothered and sees it as 'gentle' encouragement) whereas DH isn't very good under attack from them and tries to placate.

Wasthataburp - well this is the added dimension to the story. My parents are like a godsend to DH. They love him dearly and have took him under their wing (which makes me feel terrible as I try desperately not to compare the 2 sets). DH got very angry the other night at the situation as we called at my parents on the way home from inlaws. He asked them whether they wanted to come up for New Year and they just said 'sure but we would rather not go out, just a nice meal and few games at home.' He ranted on the way home as to why his parents can't just be like that and 'why can't it just be easy.' So for all he tries to bottle up, I know it is affecting him.

In terms of Christmas, I still have grandparents and when all of the Christmas saga was first agreed I asked MIL and FIL whether they were ok with us having my parents / grandparents on Christmas Eve and then we would have them on Christmas day (like last year). My dad is on shifts boxing day. This was why I was angry when FIL suggested we go down Christmas Eve. I had made a point of asking whether it was ok I told my parents so they could make plans.

Starting to think in laws just like to control...

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JellyBabiesSaveLives · 26/11/2017 17:59

So, what efforts are FIL and MIL making to "keep the peace"? Because that's how much effort you should make, too.

Don't make excuses about Christmas - excuses can be argued against. Just say no thank you, we don't want to. If they complain, point out that you are respecting their wish not to visit you, and they should do the same for you.

If they get in a huff about this, you can both enjoy the peace properly till they get over themselves.

664485867669432fjffhththththth · 26/11/2017 18:00

Think I will show this thread to DH - he likes solutions and just can't see the wood for the trees and there's a lot of great suggestions on here (thankyou so much)!

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blueskypink · 26/11/2017 18:00

Time for you both to stand up for yourselves.

Why on earth are you doing such a long journey every 3 weeks? They're not old. Take it in turns. If they won't do that so be it.

How did you respond to the comment about your weight? Did you gasp and look shocked/annoyed/hurt and say her comment was hurtful? Did your DH tell her not to be ridiculous and tell her you aren't overweight?

No way on earth would I be spending Xmas with that pair!

JellyBabiesSaveLives · 26/11/2017 18:00

Ah, x-posted. Hell, yes, just say no.

BarbarianMum · 26/11/2017 18:25

I bet your dh doesn't really miss them. I think he's been conditioned to feel fear, obligation and guilt (FOG) in every interaction with them because, frankly, theyre controlling and abusive and likely have been for a very long time.

I think if he could bring himself to see less of them he'd probably feel nothing but relief but he may need counselling to get to that point. In the meantime he could try reading "Toxic Parents".

stiffstink · 26/11/2017 18:32

You are an obesity prevention lawyer? What's involved in that?

664485867669432fjffhththththth · 26/11/2017 18:40

Used to be a barrister - now in academic research.

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VelvetKK · 26/11/2017 19:07

YANBU

I'm in a similar situation with my inlaws and I've learned the hard way that you have to do what will make you and your DP happy. With toxic people, no matter what you do, it'll never be good enough so why bother trying.

Do your own thing without fear of negativity or an atmosphere.

664485867669432fjffhththththth · 26/11/2017 19:09

Hi VelvetKK, what does your DP feel about the situation now? Were they fully on board the whole time?

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VelvetKK · 26/11/2017 19:18

It was my DPs decision in the end to limit contact. I did everything I could to help support their relationship as I was aware that I would be blamed for anything that went wrong.

It all culminated with a few events of MIL and FIL both literally shouting and bawling at me in the middle of the street in front of DSD and calling me for everything. I was apparently a horrible person that had changed their son as there was no way he would have went against them if it wasn't for me. It was beyond ridiculous. This was the catalyst for DP to cut contact where he realised that they were never going to be happy unless it was their way or no way. It hasn't been nice or easy but he has definitely been in better spirits without their negativity so he's definitely happier.