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... to be pleased that Oscar Pistorius has had his sentence increased?

92 replies

LakieLady · 24/11/2017 08:18

Now 15 years, instead of the original 6, so he won't be out for another 13 years (he's already served 2 years).

The original sentence was shockingly low imo, and I'm really pleased about this.

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BookABooSue · 25/11/2017 15:59

The bedroom door was broken from the outside near the lock, it was splintered and had a hole in it.
Oscar's story relied upon them both being asleep in bed in the dark. I don't think that was the case at all. I've always thought that he broke the bedroom door in a rage before he grabbed the gun and chased her into the bathroom.

MurmmersShow · 25/11/2017 16:03

Oh, so like he was punching the bedroom door in anger?

Laiste · 25/11/2017 16:07

The bedroom door was broken from the outside near the lock,

I didn't know this bit. Yes his whole case revolved around the both sleeping in bed thing. What was the explanation for the bedroom door being broken in??

So, she locked herself in the bedroom, he bashed his way into there and so she went and locked herself in the bathroom and then he shot her through the door? Jesus.

MurmmersShow · 25/11/2017 16:18

It makes the witness reports of arguments and noise before the shooting more plausible.

BookABooSue · 25/11/2017 16:25

This was the part about the bedroom door bedroom door
iirc Oscar said it was broken later because he went back upstairs and was panicked and couldn't open it. They didn't focus on it much during the trial.
But some of the ear witnesses testified they thought they heard the cricket bat thuds before the gun shots.

Laiste · 25/11/2017 16:33

It seems they didn't focus on anything properly. He went back up and bashed in the (open) bedroom door lock because he was in a panic ? That needed proving one way or the other.

I tried to follow the trial when it was on but with DD4 being newborn i missed great chunks of it and gave up. I'm glad now. My blood pressure would have been through the roof.

Poor Reeva.

Roussette · 25/11/2017 16:47

It's weird though because I followed it all on MN (hi Rousette) and at the time everyone here was pretty much saying they thought the judge (Masipa?) was great and would do a good job. Then when she gave her verdict they all lost faith
Hi Noeuf [smiles] Yes, totally agree I thought Masipa was a fair judge. Until she gave her verdict.

There, to me, was so much evidence. The jeans thrown out the window, her holding her phone in the loo, his male housekeeper who slept downstairs refusing to testify (I think he was paid off or feared for his life TBH), his jealousy and controlling behaviour proved with texts between them...

I am think of Reeva's family, they behaved with such dignity and hope this verdict helps them

happinessischocolate · 25/11/2017 16:51

I don't know how SA law works..will he only serve 1/2 of this sentence?

In the UK you only serve half if the sentence is less than 6 years, anything over and you do the whole sentence, I would imagine other countries are similar.

SouthWestmom · 25/11/2017 17:08

Roussette sorry my comment wasn't aimed at you, just saying hi

I think I thought she was (masipa) going to be quite thorough and pro women.

Yes actually lots of weird doesn't make sense stuff .

Roussette · 25/11/2017 17:23

I know Noeuf Smile, and saying Hi back (and I'm far too verbal on the subject of Pistorious!)

I saw red at this tweet from his brother, Carl, following the increase in sentence.
"Shattered, heartbroken, gutted.

"We have all suffered incomprehensible loss. The death of Reeva was and still is a great loss for our family too."

How in gods name can you call it a loss for your family when a family member murdered her?

SouthWestmom · 25/11/2017 17:36

They really really need to stop portraying him as disassociated from the crime

Jonsey79 · 25/11/2017 17:55

Good. Vile man.

LostInTheTunnelOfGoats · 25/11/2017 18:47

Glad to hear this.

Reeva, by all accounts, was a talented, hard working, caring woman who had so much life in front of her. Her boyfriend of three months took that away from her because he is a twisted, angry man child. His use of his disability and his snivelling was sickening.

Wasn't there some proof at the time that he had beaten her with the cricket bat? I thought relatives at the time said that she had injuries that weren't caused by gunshots. But then there was so much crap floating round, that she was pregnant etc. Of course the biggest lie was the one Pistorious told - that he'd actually take a gun, hunt down an "intruder" and shoot to kill, all without checking on the person whose safety should have been most important to him

squoosh · 25/11/2017 18:49

Oh Rousette I'd be crackling with pure rage if I was a relative of Reeva's reading that tweet from Pistorius' brother. The whole Pistorius family seem like shitheads to be honest.

TabbyMack · 25/11/2017 19:18

*Of course the biggest lie was the one Pistorius told - that he'd actually take a gun, hunt down an "intruder" and shoot to kill, all without checking on the person whose safety should have been the most important to him
*
Indeed. But you missed out the bit about him "screaming like a woman" as he headed off to confront the "intruder"

The screaming evidence was incredibly powerful and important and yet dismissed by the judge as, "Well, none of us have ever heard Pistorius scream".

First of all, why would he have been screaming at all? Imagine you are woken in the night and you creep downstairs to see what's going on...you've heard one single noise, that's all. Would you actually be screaming your head off...or would you be holding your breath so you could a) hear more noises and b) try and stay hidden if there is someone there?

Almost comically he claimed he stopped screaming when he got to the bathroom door so the "intruders" wouldn't know where he was. FFS.

No one, but no one, goes to investigate a noise in the night screaming so loudly that neighbours in the next estate can hear.

Female screams (intermingled with male shouts) were heard moments before a female was shot to death - and the notion that this was the male murderer creeping down a pitch-black corridor in terror while the victim stays stone cold silent is beyond ridiculous and patently untrue.

It was Reeva screaming and that proves that he's a lying murderer.

And Masipa should be ashamed of herself for dismissing the text message where Reeva tells Pistorius that she's scared of him with, "Oh well, couples have arguments so...meh". (Paraphrased but that's the extent of it).

BookABooSue · 25/11/2017 19:19

The whole Pistorius family seem like shitheads to be honest
yy exactly this.

Roussette · 25/11/2017 21:15

Yes agree about the Pistorious family. Vile

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