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All we want for Christmas is an IMPEACHMENT! Trump con't

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AcrossthePond55 · 22/11/2017 18:00

Dear Father Christmas/Santa, Please grant our Christmas Wish. We have been very good this year. We promise not to say shit, cunt, or fuck too terribly much unless we're driven to it by Trump CuntFuckery. Oh shit, so much for that promise! Well, we'll TRY. Thank You, the MN Viper Freedom Squad

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Fekko · 01/12/2017 14:54

ooooooooohhhhhh! rubs hands.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 01/12/2017 14:54

A radioactive one

Molly McKew
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POTUS just praised Russia for condemning North Korea launch. Apparently he missed that 1) Russia has helped build/fund NK's nuke+missile programs and 2) this morning the Kremlin said America is a greater threat than North Korea.

Russia says "North Korea is ready to conduct negotiations w/ US -- w/ participation of Russia as 3rd party... They understand perfectly well there is no problem in this world that can be settled w/o Russia."
Russian tactic #1: Create a crisis, then propose the solution.

Alwaysinmyheart · 01/12/2017 14:55

9/ For this reason, what's about to happen in 50 minutes is far and away the biggest development thus far in the Trump-Russia probe, and likely the biggest development in U.S. politics since President Nixon resigned from office during the Watergate scandal.

This is historic.

Fekko · 01/12/2017 14:58

I wont hold my breath. The Teflon Toddler just can't even get himself arrested can he?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 01/12/2017 14:59

Ha snap lettuce

Alwaysinmyheart · 01/12/2017 15:01

Trump and Mike Flynn was late April 2017—meaning the two men were in contact for approximately one year and nine months. Given that these twenty-one months make up almost the entirety of Trump's political career, this is a huge swath of time.
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13/ During their last known contact—April 2017—we know Trump told Flynn (at a minimum) to "stay strong," after which Flynn stopped cooperating with investigators. So the first thing Flynn can tell Mueller is all Trump said—and if he obstructed justice—during that April 2017 call.
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14/ But of course the "story to tell" that Flynn's attorney bragged the ex-NSA had—back in late March of 2017—goes well beyond Obstruction allegations. Flynn was at the center of numerous contacts with Russia that he can report the president knew about and perhaps even ordered.
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15/ Flynn met with the Russian ambassador and Jared Kushner in early December 2016 to discuss a "Kremlin back-channel" that some have argued would have constituted an act of espionage. Did Mr. Trump know about this? Did he direct Flynn and/or Kushner to pursue this back-channel?
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16/ This December 2016 event underscores that Flynn's a threat not just to Trump but to others. It's easy to forget that, just because Flynn—it appears—can incriminate the president, doesn't mean he can only incriminate the president. Many others are at risk, including Kushner.
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17/ Indeed, today's plea coming so close on the heels of Mueller asking Kushner to come in and talk about Flynn suggests Kushner is also a target of the Russia probe. Perhaps Mueller didn't think Kushner would flip on family, so he set him up to Make False Statements about Flynn.
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18/ This is critical: Flynn pleading guilty today means he was cooperating with Mueller before this. You don't offer value to a prosecution after you plead, you offer it beforehand—via what's called a "proffer" of info (that incriminates others). That's what earns you a deal.
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19/ So it's entirely possible that when Mueller called Kushner in to talk about Flynn, he already had everything Flynn planned to give him—meaning he was testing Kushner to see if Kushner would lie about events Mueller was already fully informed about via Flynn's prior proffer.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 01/12/2017 15:04

Natasha Bertrand
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This is clear sign Flynn is cooperating, per experts, and that the government issued a single count felony the easiest to write & one that shows fewest cards in order to pressure Flynn to flip. Central mandate for Mueller after all is Russian counterintel investigation.

Alwaysinmyheart · 01/12/2017 15:09

That proffer may have incriminated Trump and Kushner and—perhaps—Pence, but any number of Trump NatSec (or simply "top") aides: Manafort, Sessions, Clovis, Hicks, Lewandowski, Page, and Gordon, to name a few. We may not know, however, until someone else is indicted.
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21/ Mueller isn't obligated to tell the public what Flynn told him. We'll first learn of it (for all but Trump) via future indictments of those Flynn incriminated. As for Trump, he can't be criminally tried as POTUS, and probably can't even be indicted, so it'll work differently.
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22/ What Flynn told Mueller about Trump will first appear in an indictment of a third party—quite possible, if the third party was/is close enough to Trump—or else in the final report Mueller is tasked with giving Rod Rosenstein at the DOJ (though that may take a while to come).

Alwaysinmyheart · 01/12/2017 15:10

Have to admit, I don't fully understand it, but it's pretty bloody serious!

( and I figured out how to copy a thread from Twitter! ) Smile

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 01/12/2017 15:11

Manu Raju
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Docket in Flynn case now refers to a “plea agreement” hearing

Gumpendorf · 01/12/2017 15:13

People are starting to piece together the timeline

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Remember that Sally Yates tried to warn the White House about Mike Flynn’s testimony just 2 days after he was interviewed by the FBI. abcnews.go.com/Politics/timeline-sally-yates-warnings-white-house-mike-flynn/story?id=47272979

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 01/12/2017 15:17

You’ll be addicted now always!

Gumpendorf · 01/12/2017 15:23

Maddow: "We're about to learn a lot more about this story that we haven't heard over the course of this yearlong investigation."

Tune in to MSNBC for the latest analysis. twitter.com/MSNBC/status/936615886177398785/video/1

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 01/12/2017 15:32

leah mcelrath
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💥💥💥BREAKING💥💥💥

ANALYSIS cont:

This charge is based on an incident on January 24, 2017 – DURING THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.

This is NOT a campaign-related charge, which is significant.

7/x (leaving this open so I can add if necessary)

cozietoesie · 01/12/2017 15:46

What's happening on the tax bill?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 01/12/2017 16:06

Manu Raju‏
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Good sign for GOP: Sen. Susan Collins says they're "working through a few more of my issues” but she added “we're making great progress," per @KilloughCNN

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 01/12/2017 16:21

ABC News
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JUST IN: @BrianRoss on @ABC News Special Report: Michael Flynn promised "full cooperation to the Mueller team" and is prepared to testify that as a candidate, Donald Trump "directed him to make contact with the Russians." abcn.ws/2AhU3Iq

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 01/12/2017 16:22

!!!

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 01/12/2017 16:31

Preet Bharara‏
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If true, what kinds of things did Trump direct Flynn to request from Russians officials during and after the campaign? Trump is not know for caution or modest requests. And did Trump have this in mind when he told Comey to lay off?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 01/12/2017 16:39

Stefan Linnemann 🇳🇱‏
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Does this plea mean Mueller already substantially has what he needs from Flynn or is this just the beginning of Flynn's contribution to the evidence. CNN just argued, that Flynn's contribution must be large for such a plea.

Elizabeth de la Vega‏
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Based on news that Flynn just decided to cooperate in past 24 hours, it's likely this plea to a single count information indicates Flynn has a GREAT deal to offer. He could still be charged with other charges if he fails to fully cooperate. There will be many more debriefings.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 01/12/2017 16:40

Flynn's statement

All we want for Christmas is an IMPEACHMENT!  Trump con't
CaveMum · 01/12/2017 16:40

Has he tweeted yet?!

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 01/12/2017 16:43

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LATEST: Pres. Trump's initial response to news of Michael Flynn's plea was that he was not surprised Flynn lied to the FBI, given he lied to the White House, source tells @ABC.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 01/12/2017 16:47

Reuters: Prosecutors say Flynn was told by the senior member of Trump transition team to reach out to other countries to influence the U.N. vote to delay or defeat the resolution.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 01/12/2017 16:49

No tweets yet but there's been a statement from Ty Cobbs

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