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All we want for Christmas is an IMPEACHMENT! Trump con't

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AcrossthePond55 · 22/11/2017 18:00

Dear Father Christmas/Santa, Please grant our Christmas Wish. We have been very good this year. We promise not to say shit, cunt, or fuck too terribly much unless we're driven to it by Trump CuntFuckery. Oh shit, so much for that promise! Well, we'll TRY. Thank You, the MN Viper Freedom Squad

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 01/12/2017 09:32

Josh Rogin
@joshrogin
WH official: “Pompeo is quietly looking at staff and figuring out how the department could be reorganized to be effective again."

t.co/baexVdBADR?amp=1

Also

Ken Dilanian
@KenDilanianNBC
Source familiar confirms to me that ADM Robert S. Harward has been talking to the White House about becoming CIA Director.

Kate Brannen
@K8brannen
Interesting. He turned down the national security adviser post after Flynn left (back in the K.T. McFarland days).

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 01/12/2017 09:45

So in last night’s news alone we learn more about:

  • ultra wealthy conservatives funding operations to undermine press
  • trump attacking legislative branch and undermining its judgements
  • systemic racism being facilitated
  • the law enforcement branches potentially being staffed with and lead by even more partisan, fact-rejecting, trump-covering people
  • trump obstructing justice even more
BiglyBadgers · 01/12/2017 10:37

The connection between the Mercer family and the controversial activist group recently busted for an undercover sting has not previously been documented.

I am surprised this has only just been documented. I guess I must have just assumed it was the case as Project Veritas is just so very, very Mercerish. I would have been astounded if they weren't involved in it.

BiglyBadgers · 01/12/2017 10:42

I'm going to put this out there as it has even playing in my mind for a while now. I am getting increasingly convinced that we will see, at the very least, an attempt at a declaration of war on North Korea from Trump before the elections next year. Even if it doesn't get through Congress he will use it to divide and distract, as well as try and foster a patriotic boost to his ratings. I genuinely thing that this could be the issue what will tear the Government apart and cement a dictatorship.

That's it, I have depressed myself now and am going to go and eat chocolate.

PerkingFaintly · 01/12/2017 10:54

That's my fear, too, Bigly.Sad

Not dead yet - enjoy that chocolate!

Justanotherlurker · 01/12/2017 10:58

- trump attacking legislative branch and undermining its judgements

(Im in the US on business at the minute)
If you're talking about the Kate Stinle shooting, many many liberals are appalled at the decision, the fact that the defense made a statement naming Trump is idiotic and potentially shot themselves in the foot with regards to sanctuary cities.

The very liberal people who I work with in Silicon valley are all face palming over this as it does point to being political than actual upholding law/gun control etc.

Caveat no fan of Trump, but this has been handed to him

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 01/12/2017 10:59

I agree with that bigly.

This was from Wednesday:

The Situation Room
@CNNSitRoom
Senator Lindsey Graham on North Korea’s latest missile launch: “If we have to go to war to stop this, we will” cnn.it/2i0vyFs snpy.tv/2i1ZHUF

Olivier Knox
@OKnox
On CNN, @LindseyGrahamSC predicts an unspecified American “escalation of military capability” coming soon versus North Korea

what does that mean? “stay tuned,” Graham says. he also repeats support for war to prevent North Korea from getting ability to strike US with nuclear-tipped missile.

Natsku · 01/12/2017 11:13

Ah ok Pain I understand now

I'm starting to fear that too Bigly declaring war, or attempting to, would be the biggest and most distracting of dead cats for Trump to throw onto the table and also gives the opportunity for declaring special war powers to get closer to a dictatorship.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 01/12/2017 12:30

Sorry natsku I think I misrepresented what was said. My understanding is that Melissa mcewan does think it’s possible mueller is there to give everyone hope, prevent actual action being taken and buy time for the GOP to enact their agenda but I’m just not that disillusioned yet and have to hope it’ll come to something.

justanotherlurker it’s not about whether the judgement made was right or wrong, it’s more that he has no compunction in trying to place his thumb on the scales of justice.

Natsku · 01/12/2017 12:32

Ok

cozietoesie · 01/12/2017 12:40

We made it to December! Smile

(I wasn't expecting to get past July, originally.)

Fekko · 01/12/2017 13:28

Well I've just been enjoying the photos of the White House Chrimbo decorations. They are quite scary actually...

OhYouBadBadKitten · 01/12/2017 14:22

Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI according to cbs.

Gumpendorf · 01/12/2017 14:23

Jim Scuitto: Breaking: Robert Mueller has charged former Trump national security advisor Michael Flynn with “willfully and knowingly” making “false, fictitious and fraudulent statements” to the FBI regarding conversations with Russia’s ambassador.

All we want for Christmas is an IMPEACHMENT!  Trump con't
CaveMum · 01/12/2017 14:25

Whoop! Let’s hope the whole house of cards is going to start toppling!

megletthesecond · 01/12/2017 14:27

🍾

OhYouBadBadKitten · 01/12/2017 14:28

I truly hope that we have just passed the darkest part of the night and that this is the first glimmer of dawn.

AcrossthePond55 · 01/12/2017 14:34

MSNBC reporting that Flynn will plead guilty to lying to the FBI.

Where will this lead? Has he made a deal with Mueller to plead to this lesser charge in exchange for providing information?

Please let this be that glimmer of light that IS the end of the tunnel (and not an oncoming train!).

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blueskyinmarch · 01/12/2017 14:41

Surely this has to be the beginning of the end? Surely? Please?

OhYouBadBadKitten · 01/12/2017 14:47

some desperately clinging on people on twitter stuttering with ‘whatabout...’

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 01/12/2017 14:47

About time too! Grin

Fekko · 01/12/2017 14:48

So which dead cat is going to be flung now?

lettuceWrap · 01/12/2017 14:51

Hopefully not any kind of nuclear dead cat Sad

Fekko · 01/12/2017 14:53

Its just going to get ever more desperate - the way a small child gets when they aren't getting the attention they want at a family gathering.

I do know of a small child who pooed on the carpet in the middle of a fairly posh gathering when she realised she wasn't the centre of attention.

Alwaysinmyheart · 01/12/2017 14:53

If any of you follow Seth Abramson, he's written a long thread about what this means, which is essentially:

8/ What this indicates—beyond any serious doubt—is the following: Special Counsel Bob Mueller, the former Director of the FBI, believes Mike Flynn's testimony will incriminate the President of the United States, the Vice President of the United States, or both of these two men.