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Neighbours bullying us (parking)

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Pinkpowerofthought · 18/11/2017 07:44

Moved in two months ago. On a Sunday afternoon I found someone had parked on my driveway next to my car, under the private parking sign. My partner came home and couldn't get on the drive. I wrote a note which was ignored so dp went and found him and he moved it.
Fast forward a month later. The same house different car has parked just the front wheels of their car on our driveway. This has went on for a week.
Last night I drove nose in so he didn't do it and he's now blocked my car in and still parked on the drive.
I have work this morning.
Dp is going round to chat to him later.
I'm heart broken. I feel totally bullied by these ignorant twats and we have just moved in. Trying to get the house lovely and do it up and we have these twats making life a misery.
Can I go to the police about this if it doesn't stop?
He's clearly doing it on purpose. There are other spaces to use and they have their own driveway too.
Included pic of the driveway when it's clear

Neighbours bullying us (parking)
Neighbours bullying us (parking)
OP posts:
cathyclown · 19/11/2017 22:27

So disappointed.

The logistics are not clear here at all.

So I cannot have a rant on OP'S behalf. LOL.

Still I hope OP gets sorted soon.

I think op and dp can enter the driveway and park parallel to the road, so the Bstard neighbour is not really blocking them in at all.

Unless they have an issue with this. That is where the lack of information comes from.

PiffleandWiffle · 19/11/2017 22:59

Can you park across his drive OP? He might take the hint then.

Just standing out there with one of you blatantly taking pictures whilst the other is on the phone might stir some reaction....

Or for a bit of personal satisfaction dog shit under their door handles is guaranteed to put a smile on your face....

raisinsarenottheonlyfruit · 19/11/2017 23:19

(Ignoring that I spelled speaky wrong twice and moving switfly on to another thread!)

raisinsarenottheonlyfruit · 19/11/2017 23:20

FFS wrong thread. Grin

I think I need to pay more attention to my wine and less to MN, It's obviously far too late for me to be posting!

Venusflytwat · 19/11/2017 23:21

I don’t think he IS blocking your “drive”/lay-by. As far as I can see you can still off whatever it is on two of four sides.

He’s partially blocking one of them.

FeistyColl · 19/11/2017 23:24

But FlowerPot1234 the OP wasn't blocked in - she was able to exit. NDN may still be a CF but that is not necessarily against the law (sadly).

Describing the land as a driveway has I think confused things. This implies a pathway leading from road to house, with an obvious access point (usually indicated by a dropped kerb) . What the OP has is a corner piece of land with no defined entry point, and no kerb restricting access at any point.

WellThisIsShit · 19/11/2017 23:49

Yup feisty much easier to understand that description.

I wonder if the cf actually know what is your land and what might be communal? Also he might understand your land to allow you access when he parks where he does, so Thinks you’re just being awkward by refusing to exit the way he’s left you to exit.

Not sure what the rules are around being able to access & exit from a point that isn’t the official exit and dropped kerb?

It is frustrating though, when you want to be settling in and enjoying your new home.

blankpieceofpaper · 19/11/2017 23:55

OP needs to get this thread removed or edited immediately. Have lots of people reported the photo that identifies her house?

yowerohotesies · 20/11/2017 07:42

Getting the whole thread removed would be a massive over-reaction. I'm sure mnhq could remove the image that has the coordinates in, or just trim off the bottom few pixels to remove the coordinates.

Op now I've seem the actual lay of the land it is quite easy to see how you can solve it. Remodel the front area to mirror the layout of the neighbours on the opposite corner of the street, who have a fence along one side and two clear parking spaces in front.

There's a saying of "good fences make good neighbours" which applies here. Your property does not have clear visible boundaries showing where your land and public land meet. You cannot expect invisible boundaries to be respected. Your neighbour may know where the boundary lies but as long as any visitor to the street with no prior knowledge could easily park on your land due to the lack of boundary then it's not unreasonable for him to do the same. Sort out your boundaries and this will go away.

FlowerPot1234 · 20/11/2017 10:28

WellThisIsShit

Not sure what the rules are around being able to access & exit from a point that isn’t the official exit and dropped kerb?

It is not unlawful to block access to or from an area without a dropped kerb.

If they block the dropped kerb - call the council and police.
If they block the non-dropped kerb - you cannot complain or take action against the other drivers. What the OP can do is submit an application to the council to have a dropped kerb all round. If there is a dire shortage of parking, and the OP is able to access and leave her driveway, and all that's needed is some moving around of the OP's cars, they are unlikely to permit this.

yowerohotesies · 20/11/2017 11:11

It's not a dropped kerb at all though as there is no kerb to drop. There is no change of height between the public highway and the OP's land. What the op wants seems to be to enforce no one being able to park along any edge of the property so that they can enter or leave in any direction. That is not reasonable. Remodeling the land to make a clear entry and exit point in one direction and placing a barrier in other directions (alongside which anyone will be entitled to park if there is room to do do safely) is an obvious and easy solution.

FlowerPot1234 · 20/11/2017 11:15

But the OP said:

The drive fits two cars. It's a dropped curb. It ours, it's in the deeds.

Is that not true then? Is this why the OP hasn't even acknowledged any advice which concerns dropped kerbs, the police and the council, because it's not true? Hmm

Oldbutstillgotit · 20/11/2017 12:13

Is this another thread where the OP is given advice or asked lots of questions but never returns ? Do frustrating.

Shadow666 · 20/11/2017 12:17

I think it was a tad excessive to post a Google Earth photo of the OP's house. Shock

raisinsarenottheonlyfruit · 20/11/2017 12:55

Is this another thread where the OP is given advice or asked lots of questions but never returns ?

Are you fucking surprised when someone posted a picture of her house without asking permission?! Seriously!

yowerohotesies · 20/11/2017 13:16

FlowerPot1234 - The conversation at that point in the thread was about whether this was an official parking space at all. Most people will assume a standard layout of

Road
Pavement 3-4 inches higher with a kerb
Peoples front garden/drive
Where a dropped kerb means that for the width of the driveway the kerb drops to street level and the pavement takes a slight gradient to allow cars to get to the driveway without a sharp change of level. It is illegal to drive over a pavement without a dropped kerb and illegal to block someone into their drive by obstructing a dropped kerb.

OP's property is different. The parking area is the same level as the surrounding road with no kerb and no pavement so there is no kerb to drop. I don't think the OP was being misleading as such by describing it as dropped kerb as she certainly isn't bumping over an undropped kerb or illegally crossing a pavement to drive onto the parking area, but it's not the technically correct description.

Oldbutstillgotit · 20/11/2017 13:52

Raisin - then why not ask to have thread deleted ? Also she was asked lots of questions before that photo was posted !

FlowerPot1234 · 20/11/2017 15:06

yowerohotesies

FlowerPot1234 - The conversation at that point in the thread was about whether this was an official parking space at all. Most people will assume a standard layout of...
This wasn't about what most people think of, the OP simply described her problem as a parking area with a dropped kerb. There's either a kerb which drops across the area, a kerb which does not drop across the area, or no kerb whatsoever either side of the parking area to drop or not be dropped.

The parking area is the same level as the surrounding road with no kerb and no pavement so there is no kerb to drop.
Yes, we know that now. But like I said OP told us differently. And never once said, in 10 pages of comments, to anyone trying to help with advice about dropped kerbs that she doesn't in fact have a dropped kerb. Shock

I don't think the OP was being misleading as such by describing it as dropped kerb
Well, it appears now there's no kerb to drop, so yes, it was very misleading!

No wonder this has been so confusing. But not only for us - this lack of the dropped kerb has probably got a lot to do with why the other residents are parking their car there.

Hmm
wowfudge · 20/11/2017 15:16

It was the OP who posted the Google earth or Streetview image that showed the co-ordinates in the first place. She was advised to contact MNHQ and ask them to remove the photo.

raisinsarenottheonlyfruit · 20/11/2017 15:47

It was the OP who posted the Google earth or Streetview image that showed the co-ordinates in the first place. She was advised to contact MNHQ and ask them to remove the photo

Indeed. But maybe:

  1. she didn't know they were there
  2. she didn't expect people to ask like stalkers and post a picture of her actual house?!!

It's not unusual here for people to go so apeshit when a poster doesn't post soon enough for them that by the time they've come back to the thread the thread has turned and they've scared them off!

There was another thread to do with a house sale, and while the poster was away, someone managed to track them down on Right Move. How stalkerish is that?

Some people really can't handle waiting for updates I reckon.

If I posted about my NDN on a thread I woulnd't want to return to a thread where someone had posted my house without permision - I'd wonder what people on this thread are going to do next?!

I notice the OP was careful to scribble out idintifying features in the pictures (obviously she didn't notice the coordinates). Why do you think she might have done that?

raisinsarenottheonlyfruit · 20/11/2017 15:49

Hopefully I'm wrong and she'll be back. But I know how I'd feel.

inconspicuousrhino · 20/11/2017 17:02

Just get him towed. Blocking you in, they usually move them within a couple of hours. Not cheap to get them back. He won’t do it again.

Pixiedust1973 · 25/11/2017 00:18

How frustrating! I hate it when someone posts for advice & then buggers off never to be seen again! Hmm

Mrsfucktrumpet · 07/12/2017 11:37

Darn just rtft and have no idea how it ends !

angstinabaggyjumper · 07/12/2017 12:00

I used to have a neighbour who parked just a little bit over my driveway. The driveway wasn't wide and often I had to reverse out of it. One day I asked him not to park over the drive and pointed out "I know it's only a little bit over the drive but if I came to you and said I've just hit your car reversing out my drive but don't worry I only dented it a little bit you wouldn' like it would you?" He took my point.

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