children in need really pisses me off

[Mightybanhammer]

I know I am being unreasonable but I really do dislike it and can't quite articulate why.
Prefer to choose my charities rather than have it thrust down my throat I suppose.
Anyone else?

Agreed. You can’t escape it though by “just not watching it” because it’s everywhere! Costumes, baby clothes, cakes meh
I feel the same about other charities that do similar as well though.
And what’s worse is friends on Facebook watching CIN who say “I do hope you’ve donated”, fuck off Barbara I support my own charities!

It's funny. In my experience, people who quietly donate to charity tend to be generally altruistic and empathetic. Not so on this thread sadly.

@sirzy

I hope pei never needs a wheelchair for her child that isn’t eligible for wheelchair services but the wheelchair needed costs over £1000

Didn't think it would be long before someone would come and post some crap like this. Nice attempt at guilt-tripping hun. Didn't work. I still wouldn't give fuck all to any charity trying to fleece people out of their hard earned money. As I said, I give to humanity, animals, and the planet, in my own way and what I do is fuckall to do with you, or anyone else.

What makes so sure I have children?

I could afford a £1000 wheelchair out of my own money anyway thanks. And I wouldn't need any financial handouts.

So don't worry your little head about me.

@sirzy

I hope pei never needs a wheelchair for her child that isn’t eligible for wheelchair services but the wheelchair needed costs over £1000

Didn't think it would be long before someone would come and post some crap like this. Nice attempt at guilt-tripping hun. Didn't work. I still wouldn't give fuck all to any charity trying to fleece people out of their hard earned money. As I said, I give to humanity, animals, and the planet, in my own way and what I do is fuckall to do with you, or anyone else.

What makes you so sure I have children?

I could afford a £1000 wheelchair out of my own money anyway thanks. And I wouldn't need any financial handouts.

So don't worry your little head about me.

pei what about people who can't afford it out of their own money? They shouldn't get help?

I still wouldn't give fuck all to any charity trying to fleece people out of their hard earned money

No-one's trying to fleece you out of anything. Give or don't give. Of course it's up to you!

I could afford a £1000 wheelchair out of my own money

You are very lucky. Lots of people aren't and wouldn't know where to start to try to raise that kind of sum.

Yanbu. I don't think I've ever watched cin. I like to help charities and choose which ones I donate to, when work or school collect for charities I give to the ones I choose.

I have an issue with the social pressure for parents to fork out for school events when the children paying are often in need themselves. I am very up for fundraising, but sometimes I can't afford the £2 here, £1 there and however tough some can be my kids would be mortified if they couldn't join in.

@CarefulBunny

pei what about people who can't afford it out of their own money? They shouldn't get help?

I never said that.

Someone said (with a snide and sarcastic tone) 'I hope pei never needs a wheelchair for her child that isn’t eligible for wheelchair services but the wheelchair needed costs over £1000...' So I said, I don't care because I could afford it out of my own money.

I never said anything about other people getting help. (Or not getting help!) So I have no idea what you're on about!

Yanbu. I don't think I've ever watched cin. I like to help charities and choose which ones I donate to, when work or school collect for charities I give to the ones I choose

Me too. Charity giving is very personal and nobody should feel obligated to support every charity. We don't do the shoeboxes or food banks when the School ask for contributions but do add extra when it's for the school as the children benefit directly. It's individuals choice.

I wonder how much it costs to run CIN and how much of the money raised is spent on admin and salaries. We did the non uniform day and spotty wear but more for the children so they could join in.

Yellow a link has already been attached to this thread showing where money has donated. We were all volunteers at the charity that benefitted children with cerebral palsy so no salaries so all money went towards the children. However there will be some staff working for CIN, why they get paid?

Lilly the grant list has been posted. Nobody has come up with a link yet about admin costs and salaries.

SouthEastDweller. And you have told that you can apply for the information from.CIN. have you contacted them? There will be paid staff and admin costs. I am now for a charity, paid a lot less than I would on the private sector but not many people can survive without paid work.

I work for a charity.
I get paid.
People always bang on about admin and salary costs as if charities can be run on air and goodwill.
They can't. Particularly if they are offering a very expensive service.

The charities have to present their accounts to the charity commission. They are not permitted to keep too much in reserve.
No one is keen on too much being spent on non direct services but using 'admin and salaries' as some sort of proof a charity is sinister is ridiculous.

Nobody has come up with a link yet about admin costs and salaries.

Do you think people working in the third sector should get paid like shit?

We lose good people all the time because they get fed up. Understandably. Our last CEO earned 60k. She would have got three times that amount in the private sector and people were still whinging she got paid too much.

The people who work for charities need good morale in order to do their jobs properly. We don't get that with crap salaries and crap equipment.

HTH.

I think it's right to question why the information on salaries, money paid to employment agencies to employ temporary staff, the fees paid to fund managers, money for office rentals and so on, isn't widely available to the public. The BBC could easily publish this, but they don't (apart from mentioning that the CEO gets paid £115K).

I volunteer for a charity and am Trustee for it too.... none of us get paid as that’s written into our constitution. Any money in our account is ploughed straight into costs such as renting space for our drop in, providing tea, coffee etc. None of us claim for mileage as we are passionate about what we do and give that time willingly. We are awaiting a charity number and so then apply for funding so we can find a permanent room and also fund some local community course places for people.

We can pay for various services if we have funds and if the Trustees agree. So if we became very very successful and national (unlikely as we provide a service which meets the needs of our town) we could for example pay for an admin clerk. But we would have to justify that ...at the moment I am Secretary and I take all the Minutes and type them up afterwards. We share the referral phone between those of us happy to carry it,

A small charity doesn’t need huge overheads.

I don't have a problem with people coming together and raising money, but what makes me cross about children in need, Red Nose Day etc is the amount of (completely loaded) Celebs trying to get jo public to part with their money. I especially hate it when the celebs are doing really fun things like climbing mountains abroad, going on bike rides, doing bungee jumps! They are having an awesome time, probably not funded by themselves to get us to part with our money. I did give a lot and as much as I can, but my £3 a month here and there is peanuts to some very high earners. If they could not buy that expensive champagne, or ho out for one less fancy meal, or sell the flippin yaught, more money could be raised.

I think basically what I'm trying to say is, I'm in debt already, but still trying to raise money for others. This is the case for millions of others. And on child in need days etc we feel even more pressure to do so. Why don't the celebs pushing it all do more themselves

Wow just wow! If the programme didn’t raise shed loads of cash they wouldn’t do it. Celebrities attached to stuff, sell more stuf and that’s why they are asked and that’s why some people donate.

Are people really begrudging the hard work that people volunteer their time and effort to help people less fortunate then themselves? Hashtags and Facebook likes don’t improve people’s lives, cash can and does. You have the option to avoid the BBC for a week and not donate but many people depend on the amazing support that people’s donations pay for. Last time I looked, bitching about the personal ‘injustice’ of other people raising money for worthy causes, isn’t seen as constructive.

Absolutely rozdeeks.... We should work in mouldy rooms,and with our coats on, with slow computers..... As you know, we working in a charidee!
Cos the mould attracts all the best employees!

No charities need the basics as you'd expect in any decent office.

You can't have it both ways. A massive charity like CIN needs a proper staff infrastructure to administer the sums raised. Proving jobs for grant makers all over the country. It's insane to imply that a £50m fund should be the responsibility of volunteers. And to the most recent commenters banging on about the "celebs" - how do you know what they do or don't do for charity? Seriously?

Love and support the cause, never watch the programme.

I do donate to CIN via work based activities but I don't watch the celebrity back slapping wankfest that plagues us ever year - and as a licence payer I'm entitled to criticise the programming that BBC outputs.

A small charity doesn’t need huge overheads.

But (and this is in no way a dig at the smal charities who do fantastic work) small charities do have limits to what they can do, relying on volunteers too much is a risky approach long term and for anything of size, and let’s not forget it is a lot of these small charities who benefit from things like CIN and the draw that bigger charities/events have.