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Neighbours selling our land.....

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willfuckformichilenstarfood · 16/11/2017 18:00

So we purchased a house 18 months ago...... it came with 2.5 parking spaces, both on our (one space is half in our boundary and half in next foors) the deeds are very vague about this space. Both our deeds

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Iamagreyhoundhearmeroar · 16/11/2017 19:34

How does reinstating the border give you three spaces each? How is that possible? Confused

Ninabean17 · 16/11/2017 19:36

They're not going to approach you, op. They have lied, they're not going to knock on your door and make sure you're OK with it! Get your solicitor to send them a letter NOW and ring the estate agent and make them aware of the situation.

SD1978 · 16/11/2017 19:36

I’d contact a solicitor, and have them contact the neighbour. It’s a contended spot and you don’t want to start badly with your new neighbours. Other option would be (potentially) to offer to sell the half a spot to your neighbours if that would be something you’d consider? Not the land necessarily, but useage of the spot?

Smitff · 16/11/2017 19:40

Do you really think they will knock and let you know? Honestly, they’re on their way out, they will have no desire to be neighbourly with you - beyond the extent required to seal a sale. I would go speak to them/ send them an email with the link to the listing, cc’ing your solicitor.

HotelEuphoria · 16/11/2017 19:43

I would tell them you are reinstating the boundary anyway, who cares if they fall out with you, they are leaving. Anyway it most certainly isn't in their interests to have a neighbour dispute that they will have to declare during their sale.

They are being incredibly cheeky and presumptuous. I am guessing a newish build where the developers possibly led them to believe they had three spaces vaguely to make the sale but the plans state otherwise.

Jux · 16/11/2017 19:43

Why on earth wait for them to come to you, they may have no idea and be too busy with other things (they’re hoping to sell their house and find another - they’ve probably got their hands full)?

You’re being a bit silly imo. You could have phoned the EA this afternoon and got it sorted by now.

ChasedByBees · 16/11/2017 19:45

You need to raise this with them. Get it dealt with amicably.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 16/11/2017 19:58

I agree that calling the EA is the right way to go, but wouldn't panic quite yet ... AFAIK EA sales details don't constitute a legal agreement to anything (in fact don't they usually contain a disclaimer to this effect?)

A future buyer's solicitors should certainly query this, but if you want to be really sure, perhaps you could bring forward the landscaping? Grin

Whinesalot · 16/11/2017 20:05

Ring their estate agent but TBH now that you've parked a car there, they'll be knocking at your door pronto ranting and raving, as it'll put buyers off. Might be a good idea to be proactive and approach them and offer to move it if they sort out the estate agent particulars quickly.

greendale17 · 16/11/2017 20:05

Bring forward the landscaping and enclose your actual half. Nothing good can come from leaving it as it is

^i would be fking this ASAP if I was you OP

superram · 16/11/2017 20:20

I think the ‘shared’ space is a problem for both parties as what if either current or new owner parks an old banger on it for years-it’s shared you can do nothing. I would say you are going to put grass/flowers/stones on your half-just so they know. I would rather buy 2 full spaces and grass that 2 1/2 spaces which I may not be able to use.

willfuckformichilenstarfood · 16/11/2017 20:21

I still want to be naughty, we’re ripping our bathroom out so thinking of telling the fitter to just dump the waste on the front garden Shock we’ll remove it in due course. But you know....... see how quickly the house sells 😂😂
We’ve been really good neighbours, having BBQ’s together (always us hosting) we’ve repaired bits and bobs for them, pressure washed the driveways, repaired the retaining wall, painted the front of the house, ours side was ok but their side was desperate and it improved the look of our house. We footed the bill......

I think we’ve been more than reasonable!

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midnightmisssuki · 16/11/2017 20:24

why dont you just talk to them then? Confused it seems you are friendly with them...

outabout · 16/11/2017 20:25

What you have shown seems to indicate the space for 2 cars and a motorbike (or two) each. OR 2 spaces of suitable width for 'disabled motorists'.
Are the markings just paint or concrete or similar 'inlays' marking the various bays? You need to be onto the EA and possibly solicitor ASAP.
You may have a council website which shows property boundaries you could look at. Land registry to look at your registered land costs a fiver.

willfuckformichilenstarfood · 16/11/2017 20:44

The spaces are Tarmac with edging strips. Very much defined as spaces. I’m going to get a quote for landscaping tomorrow and then go round for a chat about our plans!

Whilst we do get on well there has always been a parking cloud above us. Hard to explain.

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BaffledMummy · 16/11/2017 20:55

Oh lord we are the unfortunate owners of 1 and a third (!) parking spaces, sharing the 2nd space with two other neighbours dotted around the street (not even the next door neighbours). The one full space we own isn’t even the one right next to our front door 🤨 I suspect the developers were pissed when they designed the parking. Causes no end of trouble. We approached the other two owners to ask if we could buy them out but they weren’t interested. I feel your pain but at least nobody has tried to sell it from under us. Yet.

PortToTheLeft · 16/11/2017 21:00

Will the parked car make a difference? If I was the sneaky neighbour seller I’d tell any viewers it was MY friends car, emphasising how marvellous it is to have all these spaces. The viewers will not know it is your parking?

Sara107 · 16/11/2017 21:01

You both own a space that is the size of 2.5 parking spaces, and the estate agents have described it as being big enough for 3 ( if they were minis wedged up against each other), in the same way they sometimes put three quarter size furniture into show houses or describe a pokey living room as 'spacious'. I can't see what the confusion is over the space, from your diagram it looks obvious that the boundary goes down the middle of the space.

C0untDucku1a · 16/11/2017 21:02

I dont understand the landscaping plan. Please can i have another diagram?

Gemini69 · 16/11/2017 21:09

I'm anxious.... have you spoken to them... Hmm

InspMorse · 16/11/2017 21:13

Spray paint this on your half.
Or maybe talk to neighbours and tell them you've spotted the 'estate agent's' unfortunate mistake.

Neighbours selling our land.....
GU24Mum · 16/11/2017 21:16

You could do this.......... or sit back and do nothing provided you're reasonably confident that your drawing matches up with your title plan (which you can check online). If the red edging matches up with the line between the properties and that's half way through the space, it's going to be hard for anyone to think they own the whole space.
It's worth checking that they aren't numbered spaces and your Land Registry title says that you own 1&2 but your neighbour owns 3-5 in which case it's more likely to be arguable that the plan is wrong.

BreakfastAtSquiffanys · 16/11/2017 21:19

How generous are these spaces?
If between you, 5 cars are parked in front of the houses, can you actually open the doors?

Do you live somewhere with very restrictive parking?

NegansBitch · 16/11/2017 21:20

Our house comes with bits and piece of land all over the street we live on.... its quite complicated... outside toilet blocks, coal store, ash shed....all now long gone but we still own them. Wonder what the neighbours would think if I went and fenced all our pieces off haha

I think you need to speak to your neighbour... and if they don't see sense then the EA.... show them your deeds and they should ask to see your neighbours deeds too to confirm their details on the website are correct. It may be awkward now but imagine how awkward it will be if new neighbours moved in and have 3 cars for their 3 spaces they were sold. They will be majorly pissed off.

Cammel · 16/11/2017 21:24

They will want to clear this up quickly as they have to declare any disputes with neighbours before a sale can go through. I’m pretty sure that a house with only 2 parking spaces is worth more than one with 3 and a dispute with neighbours.

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