WIBU to let my chickens in next doors garden?

[ChickenlessHead]

Seeing as their 3 fucking cats spend their days shitting in my dc’s sandpit and digging up my plants?

I’ve tried everything - squirting with water pistol, sonic cat repellant, covering up sandpit (they just shit on the cover then). I had a little nest of robins in my tree earlier this year and one of the cats knocked the nest over then put a baby bird on dc’s slide.

We have a low wall at the end of our garden that extends along the bottom of next doors garden too. My chickens are free range during the day and have recently been hopping up on this wall. Dh mentioned we should probably put up some kind of fencing to stop them walking along it and going into next doors garden. But next door have no problem with their pets shitting all over my garden and I’m inclined to feel the same about them tbh.

Cats are no threat to the chickens btw, the chickens have seen off the cats many a time (one of the reasons I’m quite fond of them). Next door don’t have a dog either so chickens would be quite safe there.

Severide he leapt off the stepladder & bolted outside 😂 Was kinda funny.

Still not relevant stastics against other animals tho. The problem also is that people make up dog attacks because they hate the owners (been there, done that) & that nowadays a dog is considered 'dangerous' for barking at somebody.
I'd be curious to know how many of the 200k dog attacks are people who broke into someone's house & got railed by the resident terrier 😂😂

Cats legally have the right to roam free where as dogs legally always have to be under control.

Chicken rules come under defra as they count as live stock and im pretty sure they have to stay on your property.

mustbemad17 Yes you are quite right, whilst there are more attacks from dogs, horses and cows kill more people - But these are accidents! Dogs attacking people are not accidents. unfortunatly dogs can snap and attack people for no good reason, it's just in thier nature... the wikipedia page for dog deaths in the USA is scary!

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Dogs/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States/Revision2 Mans best friend Scary stuff....

Thank you for the info re differences between urban and real foxes. We have the former pooing all over the garden.

As for dog attacks (I’ll probably unleah all hells) I believe if breeding was a bit more selective and puppies who show behavioural problems from a young age were destroyed instead of being sold, lots of these attacks might not have happened.

I love cats but 3 cats using my garden to toileting would make me quite cross as well. My last cat decided not to use the litterbox one day (must have been because the dog was too keen on robbing the contents) and he never used my garden. I’m still hoping he was using the bushes behind the fence. (Our garden is a fourth of an acre, no way I’d spend a fortunr cat proofing it.) I rehomed him and now we have robins.

Why not read the other 5000 cats shitting in my garden posts on here. I'm sure you'll find all the information you need without starting a new thread.

Tika77 I don't think its the breed or how they are looked after, sometimes dogs snap for no reason and if its a big dog then the outcome is worse.sadly a Little boy was killed by a dog near me not so long ago...

I would rather cats shit in my garden than step in dog poo. I see a lot of dog shit out and about and have never ever seen cat poo.... a lot of dog owners don't care about thier animals shitting everywhere, I think dog shit is a far far far worse problem that cat shit.

I have the same trouble with sheep coming into our garden and clearly they hold their shit in for a full year until they come into our garden as it's a poop fest when they leave!! I however do not have a sandpit for my DS and if i did and they went there I'd be so irritated!
So what I'm trying to say is that I totally feel for you! Let those free range chicks roam free!

There is always a reason. People just don't take the time to look for it. Whether it is medical - yes there sadly are some conditions that cause mental damage to dogs & they become aggressive & unstable - or environmental. The stories I read in the news of dogs, family pets, attacking babies make me really fucking cross because when you sit & read them properly you realise that dog was not at fault. The bloody parents were. Dogs have to be treated with respect, end of story. People who allow their kids to bounce on, roll on, pull, poke & generally terrorise their dog are asking for trouble. People who do not provide strict boundaries for the dogs, asking for trouble. If you bring a dog into your home you are responsible for ensuring it has manners but also that it is treated with respect.

Sorry, slightly OT moan. I have spent the last five years dealing with 'dangerous' dogs with nowhere else to go. Never had one issue with them & my five year old...yet a large percentage of them were deemed too aggressive for family life. More like the family fucked up 😡

Have you tried lion essence? It’s worked for me.

I don't think you can judge all cats as one large homogeneous group. Some are good hunters, some aren't. I've had three cats at different times and very rarely have any dead 'presents'. I would agree that they have been a problem to the population of some (slow moving, oblivious) species in places, but to use information from one continent and apply it to a different one in order to 'prove' cats decimate all wildlife is inaccurate. Cats are not the only predatory species. Ferals cause more problems than pets, which is more a problem caused by irresponsible owners not desexing animals. If the same thing happened with dogs (ie lots of ferals) we would also have problems. So to use an argument that cats are terrible pets because they 'decimate wildlife' is disingenuous.
Btw, I live in Australia, we register our cat and obv he is desexed, but apart from that its no different to owning a cat anywhere else. Quite a few live in our immediate area, so I'm not sure how these 'measures' you mention Australia taking would help in your circumstance, which you seem to imply.

CeCe sheep poo is probably full of nutrients for your garden. :-)

Sorry irritated - I’ll do a thorough advance search before I start a thread next time. Perhaps you could just read and comment on threads that interest you and it may help with that irritation.

claira what is lion essence? It sounds like a dodgy aftershave.

mustbemad17 I have a deep scar on my leg, were I was bitten by my ndn dog. I had to have a load of stitches, it got infected, it was horrible. The dog was a lovely, well looked after lab. I was on a field playing behind our houses and was no where near the dog when it ran up to me and attaked me for no other reason than an instinct it had. Sometimes dogs attack and you are right we must have respect for them.

Most dangerous (aka deadly to humans) animals in UK:
www.planetdeadly.com/animals/uk-dangerous-animals/2

There will have been a trigger Shiela probably something you didn't see. No dog has an instinct to attack a human...training maybe, but again that's human fuckery. I've been bitten many a time, usually by some little ratty dog that I misjudged.

ferrier that's an interesting article, thank you 🙂 Altho i detest the emotive, 'ooh i'm scared' journalism that a lot of these articles use when describing dogs. I also detest that they use photos of bull breeds to portray dangerous dogs 😡

Filthy animals that cause ringworm

mustbemad17 I was there you weren't and there was no triggar other than a dogs wolf instinct that can pop up from time to time. I love dogs, I had a lovely greyhound up until recently but i'm under no illusion that dogs are soft!

Strong male urine was the only thing that worked for us. If there’s a man in the house send him out into the garden for his first morning pee (or take a jug). It worked better than chili powder or water pistols or fairy liquid. Good luck

healzam humans are far worse and have much worse things than a bit of ringworm....

Legally cars have the right to roam. Chickens on the other hand don't. Your neighbours could complain to environmental health if your chickens roam out with your property. My property has conditions attached to deeds forbidding keeping chickens. Hope same doesn't apply to you.

Have you tried a cat-away spray? I have a cat that i cannot keep in. He was born outside and it's impossible to keep him in. Chickens poop randomly. Your wall could be white washed by them. It's tough to get chicken poop out of crevices. My cat roams far and wide; it may not be your neighbor's cat. I found my cat more than a mile away. When my mother passed away, my brother took her cat home to his house. The next day it was looking for her. 7 miles he traveled that night to find her. It still makes me teary. Cats are not antisocial; they are discerning.

He walked back to my mother's house. I don't know how he found his way.