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The zephyrs of change. Trump continued

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PerkingFaintly · 08/11/2017 18:17

Republicans starting to feel the breeze as diverse Dems have a good election day.

Six lessons learned from US Democrat wins
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41920434

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lionheart · 19/11/2017 15:27

'I should have listened to that little voice in my head... I remember specifically saying, you know, we probably shouldn't get involved in this.'

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/british-publicist-arranged-donald-trump-jr-meeting-russian-lawyer-breaks-silence-rob-goldstone-a8063371.html

lionheart · 19/11/2017 15:31

She's been right before. Smile

thehill.com/homenews/administration/361047-clinton-trump-is-still-putins-puppet

cozietoesie · 19/11/2017 16:37

Sessions is now ‘covering it’ - or trying to. He’s showing himself to be more lawyer than politician because the base won’t like it. It would have been fun at first - it isn’t now.

cozietoesie · 19/11/2017 16:41

45 thinks that he understands tech things, lion, because he can tweet. Actually, he doesn’t have a scooby. (And he’s publicly ignoring those who do.)

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 19/11/2017 16:50

From earlier today:

Bill Browder‏
@Billbrowder

When asked the future for Vladimir Putin, I always said:

10% chance of Maidan scenario,

20% chance of palace coup, and

70% chance of a Mugabe scenario.

I guess that’s not too comforting for Putin today.

And from just now:

The Associated Press
@AP
BREAKING: Zimbabwe's President Robert Mugabe to appear on state-run television amid pressure to resign.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 19/11/2017 16:51

although someone made the point that Mugabe had been in power for over four decades but we can just gloss over that

lionheart · 19/11/2017 17:16

Not good at maths either.

The zephyrs of change. Trump continued
OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 19/11/2017 19:06

Amy Siskind
Amy Siskind
@Amy_Siskind
There was a significant enough drop off in Trump activity in Week 53 for us to ask why. He is also tweeting less. I have two theories: 1) he is being drowned out by women speaking out; 2) the Russia probe is closer than we think and he is legit scared. Or both. Pay attention!

cozietoesie · 19/11/2017 19:09

Or

He’s fed up and running out of steam........

PerkingFaintly · 19/11/2017 19:10

I'm holding my breathe over Zim...

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lionheart · 19/11/2017 19:15

Hope he's freakin' petrified.

cozietoesie · 19/11/2017 19:20

Remember - he cancelled a campaign meeting (!) after his last overseas trip. If I recall?

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 19/11/2017 19:26

He has just started tweeting about the lack of gratitude he’s received for getting those students out for
China and how he should’ve just left them in prison so perhaps he’s bouncing back. I’d say it was possible to distract from Kushner/tax news but he just doesn’t seem capable of forward planning at all

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 19/11/2017 20:15

Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1
Cambridge Analytica had its most lucrative year in 2016; but today, it doesn’t have a single U.S. client and faces criticisms of failing to deliver on promises.

t.co/501CkGZIRb?amp=1

lionheart · 19/11/2017 21:00

Still trying to stoke those fires, isn't he?

Did he ever make his big announcement?

cozietoesie · 19/11/2017 21:23

Shame on you, lion. Everything he says is BIG! Grin

cozietoesie · 19/11/2017 21:26

(I’m guessing - if the dates fit - it was the ‘MS13 crackdown’.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 19/11/2017 21:31

Someone who is slightly more subtle when it comes to stoking fires poking bears

James Comey
James Comey
@Comey
“A good leader takes a little more than his share of the blame, a little less than his share of the credit.” Arnold H. Glasow(1905-1998)

lionheart · 19/11/2017 21:32

In case you were at all alarmed. Sleep easy now.

“They’re deadly serious about protecting this nation and protecting the free world against lunacy.”

thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/361120-eric-trump-my-father-is-not-playing-on-national-security

cozietoesie · 19/11/2017 22:11

Oh I reckon they take Mattis seriously. Wink

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 19/11/2017 22:11

POLITICO
POLITICO
@politico
Russia was interested in Donald Trump long before 2016. Here's how the KGB almost certainly made Trump's 1987 trip to Moscow happen:

www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/19/trump-first-moscow-trip-215842

^
The ambassador—“fluent in English and a brilliant master of negotiations”—charmed the busy Trump, telling him: “The first thing I saw in the city is your tower!”^

Dubinina said: “Trump melted at once. He is an emotional person, somewhat impulsive. He needs recognition. And, of course, when he gets it he likes it. My father’s visit worked on him [Trump] like honey to a bee.”

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 19/11/2017 22:14

According to Followthewhiterabbit:

Conspirador Norteño
@conspirator0
Under the #FollowTheWhiteRabbit theory, Mueller and Mattis were both selected specifically due to serving in the Marine Corps. Supposedly the Marines are not subject to the Posse Comitatus Act (this claim is false) and would therefore be legally able to enforce martial law.

It’s bonkers

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 19/11/2017 22:18

TRUMP'S NEW CONFLICT OF INTEREST COULD INVOLVE PAYING OFF OFFICIALS TO NOT TALK ABOUT RUSSIA

www.newsweek.com/trump-legal-fees-staffers-conflict-interest-715995?amp=1

As the investigation into Russian collusion builds, President Donald Trump has started paying his own legal bills, rather than using campaign donations or charging the Republican National Committee, and has created a fund to finance the legal bills of his former and current staffers—which could violate ethics laws if there’s a chance it could influence their testimonies.

After several months of the Republican Party picking up the tab, the president started paying in order to make things “even,” Trump’s attorney John Dowd confirmed on Friday to Reuters. The payments are for Trump’s personal lawyers who are helping him navigate the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election and whether he obstructed justice by firing former FBI Director James Comey in May.

But it’s not just his own legal bills that he’s paying—Trump has also established a legal fund that pays for staffers who are also involved in the investigation, a method that has caught attention from the Office of Government Ethics. There is no law that bars the president from giving gifts and money to his staffers, but in the face of a tricky investigation, this case raises questions of whether Trump’s financial help will influence staffer’s testimonies, said Walter Shaub, former head of the ethics office.

[...]The Republican Party has shelled out even more for Donald Trump Jr., paying more than $500,000 in legal fees as he faces allegations of collusion as well, especially for his reported meeting with a Russian official and contact with WikiLeaks.

cozietoesie · 19/11/2017 22:25

Mattis was selected because of his alleged nickname. Grin

cozietoesie · 19/11/2017 22:27

You all might be interested in this piece from Politico.

Americans - not as divided as you might think