Aibu to be massively panicking about a pup I bought yesterday? European passport

[Ohforgodsake000]

Very stupidly bought a dog yesterday who came with a pet passport issued in Latvia.
All vaccines were stamped in the book and micro chipping also in there.
Thought nothing Of it until I mentioned to a police friend who said this is one of the biggest scams going and he probably doesn't have any vaccines including rabies and threadworm which he could now transfer to my kids.
I feel sick with worry.
What a stupid idiot I am.
No vets will see him as he's not yet registered and its now emergencies only.

Bulldogs are in top 5 for known health problems.

The dog is deformed simply by being a bulldog. They are riddled with health problems at the best of times, and that dog is a very poor example of his breed.

I know a guy who has a bulldog. It can't walk more than ten minutes because it's body is literally too heavy for its legs to carry it. Funnily enough the guy bought it on Pets4Homes

However the guy genuinely just thinks his dog is lazy. It's painful to see this young dogs spirit trapped in a broken, deformed body. The people who perpetuate this suffering are evil. There's no other word for it.

Cinderllaspinkdresswasthebest - There is nothing that states in fact this dog has any health problems

No? Nothing states it?

Even the most enthusiastic bulldog appreciation web sites list all their inherent health problems.

But poor OP ay? Lets not tell her off any more. The puppy is here now

The puppy is here now. And what? That's the main thing? What sort of weak minded minimising crap is this? The sort that allows people to shrug and go ''oooh what have i done - but hey, it's an easy mistake to make so don't go on about it''. The suffering of dogs is going to continue unless people stop buying from puppy farms and buying deformed breeds.

The OP can click away from the thread is she wants. The poor dogs are stuck with their life. My hope is that before this thread fades away it has put off just one person who was going to buy a dog with a click on a web site.

Wonder how the dog gets on at the vets today?

People who support puppy farms are just as bad and culpable as the bastards running them.

Literally no responsible breeder churns out litter after litter and advertises them on gumtree / facebook / selling sites.

Litters are carefully planned to ensure the best genetics and that there are homes for all the pups - you SHOULD expect to have to wait a decent length of time.

You SHOULD meet both parents, see copies of breed specific tests (such as hip scores / x-rays for the breeds predisposed to those problems such as labs). Meet the breeders - more than once.

Even if OP is actually a decent person who has made a stupid mistake - they have now perpetuated the miserable life of a poor bitch somewhere churning out litter after litter, and made it even more worthwhile for the bastards farming the puppies out. Even if OPs dog isn't too genetically compromised - how many other pups have died?

I doubt we'll find out about the dog's vet visit.

If this is real, I hope the vet tore a strip off the OP.

Experienced owner of bulldogs my arse-crack.

i hope there IS a vet visit at least.

SilentlyScreamingAgain

Throwing cabbages?
Pretty bully like behaviour but guess that must be your personality

Yep, I think that's a fairly forgiving way to treat those who fund the torture and abuse of animals, I'd rather you got a couple of years in prison.

THIS!! The OP had all the signs yet still bought this poor dog. I'd love to write what I think of the OP and people like her but I'd get banned. Disgusting behavior.

Agree Xeneth.

And the 'awww' posts on seeing the photo. The urge to comment on the fact that the dog looks the opposite of aww cute and more bloody hell what a mess is overwhelming, not least as that seems one of the only things owners like this give a crap about. Hey I did this and oooh my bad but isn't he cute. No he isn't. Too late now. Experienced owner, fuck off!

I’d love to find out what the vet said.

OP, I really hope that everything is ok with your dog, you must be very worried. Please let us know after the vet has seen him.

A lot of PPs have made sweeping statements about never advertising/buying on Preloved/Gumtree etc (quite aside from issues of pedigree breeds/dodgy set ups/puppy farming etc)?

Out of interest, where should you advertise a genuine rehome? One of our pets we'd reserved before he was born after speaking to the breeder, but other puppies from litter were online. We bought our cat from an internet ad (but met the breeder and parents etc) and would have put up an ad to rehome an older pet had we not already found a fantastic home by word of mouth. We'd have checked out the new home of course but not sure how else we'd have found somewhere?

Obviously it's sensible to check out the home you are buying from but surely it's bit restrictive to say you must never buy from an internet ad in the day and age where most transactions initiate online?

When I say older pet - I don't mean an elderly pet rehomed due to age, it was a young animal but sadly didn't get on with our existing pets

Thought I'd better clarify as have seen a few threads today where posters presuming to know the full situation start a witch hunt!

Repeatable breeders have waiting lists, full waiting lists. No one without a list of decent homes should breed any animal. There are tens of thousands of dogs and cats in rescue, if you don't feel able to wait for a specific breed, you should give one of those a home.

Decent breeders will take back dogs or cats who don't settle into their new homes. No one should breed an animal unless they are able to make that commitment. No one should buy from a breeder unable or unwilling to make that commitment.

Many dogs and cats sold on gumtree etc end up as dog fight 'bait'. Handing over an animal to someone buying from gumtree and presumably unwilling or unable to pass a home check from an animal rescue centre is taking that risk. Anyone willing to take that risk with a pet isn't fit to own one.

@MarmiteandToast , always rehome through a charity. People are not what they seem, and pets can be used for all sorts of unpleasantness.

Come on @Ohforgodsake000!

What did the vet say?

I don't think it's practical in the real world to always acquire or rehome through charities. I looked for a rescue cat (albeit only briefly and online) and couldn't find one listed as suitable to be rehome with a dog.

We didn't necessary want to buy a cat from a pedigree breeder with a waiting list as we were happy with a moggy - so heaven forbid we answered an internet ad for kittens nearby, met the family selling, saw mum cat etc and dog and cat lived happily together.

The pet we were rehoming WAS a pedigree and we would have checked out homes, so no different from a rescue centre really except that we would keep him happy in our home until we knew he had somewhere good to go, rather than staying at a charity with loads of cats in desperate needs of homes. It would also have been expensive bait for someone (although we did let him go free to an excellent word of mouth home).

Of course it's part of pet ownership to be careful where your pets come from/where they go to but I think it's ridiculous to say that nobody should ever consider a pet first heard about via the internet.

@MarmiteandToast - my dog's breeder will have him back at any time. That's what a reputable breeder does. If for any reason she was unable to have him, I'd surrender him to the breed rescue.

If he weren't a pedigree, I'd give him to the Dog's Trust.

People buying and selling animals on Gumtree aren't doing it because they love their dogs. They're doing it to make money.

@JigglyTuff erm, I didn't buy my dog on Gumtree to make money. 🙄

I did, however, buy my 1yo dog on Gumtree to be sure she didn't end up in the hands of unscrupulous breeders, as a bait dog or into the hands of her fourth home in her first year.

We knew what we were doing, avoided the scams and found someone genuinely trying to rehome an unwanted dog. I vetted the owner as much she vetted me, and we have a very chilled, clever, healthy dog who is now speyed, well cared for and relaxed.

Not all Gumtree sales are scams or involve puppy farms.

I sincerely hope the OP comes back with good news from today's vet trip.....

I can see why you'd take a dog to the Dog's Trust, as would I if I needed to rehome urgently, but don't they have thousands of dogs to rehome across their branches?

I'd prefer to try and find a good home myself first if possible, so my dog didn't have to go from a family home to a kennel while waiting for possibly a long time to be rehomed, especially as I bet charities are under huge pressure. I don't know exactly what checks charities do (do they CRB check?) but I'd want to see the home before letting a beloved pet go there.

To do all this I'd need to put an ad on Gumtree. We love our pets and are certainly not up to no good - and in fact I think it would be very hard for us to have got a rescue cat just because we have a dog, yet many dogs and cats live happily together.

Obviously you didn't buy your dog to make money. That was obviously a mistake.

I wonder how many other poor dogs the person who sold you their dog has had to rehome?

You buy a dog from Gumtree, you're funding the puppy farming industry. There are lots of charities that will take dogs. I would rather get my dog put down than give him to someone I don't know on Gumtree. He'd be brilliant for dog baiting - he's fast and mouthy but he's really cowed by other dogs. Plus he's small and a pedigree. People would pay a lot to see him being ripped apart for their pleasure. He'd fight hard. There'd be a lot of blod

Horrible I know. But this is what you're encouraging. Unless decent people stop buying dogs from websites, then dogs will be sold to unscrupulous abusers.

There are no excuses. If you wouldn't buy a child from Gumtree, don't buy a dog.

Animals should never be bought or sold over the Internet. I agree with Jiggly.

Deafening silence from the OP, what a surprise (NOT).

Poor dog.

Hopefully others reading this tragic tale will be warned off getting a puppy in this way.

I don't agree. It's an advertising medium, the same as a sign in a shop window or a newspaper advert.

The ethics behind rehoming a dog cannot be compared against the ethics of puppy farming.

You cannot use the analogy of selling a child here, not least of all because you'll rile people like me who are married to an infertile man and who cannot "just adopt".

It's a poor comparison and fails to acknowledge there are subtleties and genuine reasons for things not being as clear cut as "buy from a breeder", because immediately everyone pipes up with "don't buy from a breed, go to a rescue".

Especially when people just as knowledgeable as yourselves make appropriate assessments of their situations and rehome a dog directly from a house they have visited, having seen its vet inoculation records, assessed the dog's behaviour, seen the loving photos of the dog in the house, seen the dog interact with a child in the home....

I looked for a rescue cat (albeit only briefly and online) and couldn't find one listed as suitable to be rehome with a dog.

I don't understand. What was the emergency cat owning situation that meant you couldn't wait for a suitable cat to come up in rescue?