To wonder why my teen is stealing sugar?

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One of my kids (both teens) is stealing the sugar. I don't know which one.

I noticed a brand new bag of sugar had vanished last week, I assumed it had been spilled by one of the kids who had failed to mention it. Actually that didn't really make sense at the time because neither of them is capable of cleaning a bag of sugar so well. Either way I forgot all about it.

Now a second bag has disappeared.

It's not me, its not DH. Nobody else has had access.

What the fuckity fuck is going on?

Rat poison? No dealer with two brain cells to rub together will cut drugs with poison. Killing one’s customers is bad for business.

@CoteDAzur surely selling drugs poses the same risk. Occupational hazard. I didn’t say it was the best idea

No idea what you just said.

Selling drugs doesn’t mean one is stupid. And you would have to be supremely stupid to put poison into a product you sell to be ingested by your customers.

Dead customers = Diminishing business.

Besides, where are all those hundreds of drug users who should be dropping off like flies with every such batch of drugs cut with rat poison? It’s the dumbest urban legend ever.

Please come back and update us OP! I'm desperate now!

FGS! Be careful!!
Have none of you seen that documentary about the secret agency looking out for alien activity? They said that craving sugar water meant that your skin had been inhabited by an interstellar cockroach: there was a guy in the film who looked dreadful, and eventually the insect burst out of him.....this could be one of your children OP!

@CoteDAzur Are you replying to me. I’m not sure what you don’t get.
I’m not going in to it because I’m not taking it off topic from sugargate. I’m not asking for your corroboration, just stating what I’ve seen. Not sure why it’s this relevant to you.

For the record I don’t think he’s dealing drugs.

"We need to know op! I will bring the flash light for questioning"

Lmao

However - it's a spotlight not a torch (flashlight is American)

Trivia spot - mastermind was based on gestapo interrogation techniques.

"Sugar cam"

Go full CSI on their arses!

"Only shit dealers cut heroin with sugar, heroin is bitter sugar is not a really sweet heroin wouldn’t sell as well as say one cut with talc" agreed but nobody said he knew what he was doing!

Re sugar hidden in psych/rehab facility - addicts inc alcoholics can crave sugar as they're coming down, some psych drugs can have similar effect so if they've been taken off Meds where withdrawal = low blood sugar they can crave sugar but take too much and go into coma.

The small amount of rat poison (basically warfarin) ingested by a drug user would not do much harm - especially in comparison to ya know the ACTUAL drug

Oh my God. All the people saying drugs are mental. You can't cut drugs with granulated sugar. It's the wrong texture, the wrong taste and it dissolved and goes sticky.

Imagine if your heroine was cut with sugar. You would be injecting caramel. Or you would snort coke/ket and your nose would be all sticky.

You cut with cheaper drugs.

I highly doubt op son has a breaking bad style drug enterprise where he is fooling people with sugar based drugs.

"Selling drugs doesn’t mean one is stupid."

CoteDAzur Could you explain to me why selling illegal drugs is not a monumentally stupid thing to do?

DD has just received her DBS check back. If she got caught selling illegal drugs that means her whole future career is going to go down the Swanee

Yes babs, I'm obviously replying to your post because you replied to my "No dealer with two brain cells to rub together will cut drugs with poison. Killing one’s customers is bad for business" with "CoteDAzur surely selling drugs poses the same risk. Occupational hazard. I didn’t say it was the best idea".

Most people dealing drugs don’t tend to have other jobs Loniecera a lot of people I know that ‘make drugs’ are in fact chemistry graduates.

People do cut drugs with poison. Heroin cut with anthrax in scotland. Cocaine manufacture uses formaldehyde

"Could you explain to me why selling illegal drugs is not a monumentally stupid thing to do?"

I think it is. That wasn't what I said.

I said that selling drugs doesn't necessarily mean that one is stupid.

"DD has just received her DBS check back. If she got caught selling illegal drugs that means her whole future career is going to go down the Swanee"

True. What is your point? If she already has a career or is in the process of building herself one, she obviously would not be trying to make it in the criminal underworld.

WTAF has happened to this thread?! 🤷‍♀️

"Cocaine manufacture uses formaldehyde"

I don't know if that's true but even if it is, "uses" means that there is no formaldehyde in the finished product sold as cocaine.

That is what a chemical reaction is: you put some chemicals together and end up with entirely different chemicals as a result.

You don't cut Heroin with Anthrax, it's a contaminant. There aren't guys with pots of Anthrax mixing it up with drugs. If there are pots of Anthrax knocking about we should all be fairly concerned.

"The small amount of rat poison (basically warfarin) ingested by a drug user would not do much harm - especially in comparison to ya know the ACTUAL drug"

Haha. Some people go through over 1-2 grams of cocaine in an evening. They live to party again. That wouldn't be the case if it was cut with rat poison to any economically significant degree.

Besides, what conceivable purpose would cutting a drug with poison serve? There are many other inoffensive and very cheap substances.

Heroin cut with anthrax in scotland

Ummm as anthrax is a disease caused by a bacteria I think this is pretty unlikely.

I'd love to know how you 'cut' heroin with a bacterium???

Also, I actually came on to post this .

"drugs kill people. Therefore the occupational hazard of being a drug dealer is that your customers may die."

Oh here comes that tiny violin

"Drugs" are not nearly as efficient at killing people as many people who have never tried they believe. Millions take Es, cocaine, LSD etc every weekend in the UK. Where are all the dead bodies?

"Therefore adding something that contains rat poison, isn’t likely to cause the death, it’s still likely to be the drug. Likewise cutting the drug reduces its potency, so actually, it can be less lethal and more lucrative"

This statement is surprisingly silly, even for a person who admits coming from a place of complete ignorance. Cutting anything with poison makes it more dangerous than the original substance, obviously, and the original substance is clearly not that toxic if the vast majority of its habitual users die of natural causes.

drugs kill people. Therefore the occupational hazard of being a drug dealer is that your customers may die. Therefore adding something that contains rat poison, isn’t likely to cause the death, it’s still likely to be the drug.

There's a shitload of assumptions about relative risk in there. Drugs do sometimes kill people. That doesn't mean drugs are the most poisonous substance ever and that it is literally impossible to create a substance more dangerous than drugs. Those 'therefores' you put in don't mean that what you're saying is logical.

babs, I wonder what you told MNHQ to get those two posts withdrawn

When people say it is ‘cut’ to make it go further ie drugs, does the buyer know it is cut it is it a way of tricking the buyer to pay more for less or is it expected because pure drugs are even more dangerous?