Calling people out?!?!

[SmiledWithTheRisingSun]

Whoever the fuck came up with this phrase and why is it suddenly EVERYWHERE?? It makes me cringe. And cross 😡😤 JUST STOP IT WILL YOU?!?! !

(And breathe 😁)

"Myself" "Yourself"- the car dealer's pronouns.

Like the Footballer's Tense..........

Maybe we need more hippy speak to "chill" us all out.

It came from the U.S. I heard it there decades ago. Now it's here. And annoying as fuck. Almost up there with aluminum.

What's the footballer s tense? I probably use it!

The thing I don't like is people saying "excited for" when they say "excited about" and now it's being extended to other expressions like nervous, hungry, etc. AAAAAAAGHHHHHHH!!!

The myself thing is not soooo bad if it's used instead of me, but I cannot bear it when it's used instead of I.

Don't like "reach out" either and always change to "contact" or "get in touch with".

And whenever I come across impact used a verb at home I change it to "affect" or "have an impact on".

It's the same people who say shaming/shamed for everything as well.

but sorry if you feel "word shamed", my bad.

I meant at work not home! I swear my hands type what they like without reference to my brain!

The Footballer's Tense - isn't that:
"So I've said to him to hit it and he's only gone and hit it and we've only scored n't we and we've only gone and won it!"

(Bad example but essentially the present perfect used when a simple past would be more appropriate)

I may have got that very wrong though.

Ha Ha - yes "shamed"
No-one can criticise me EVER!!! Not for my idiocy or my ignorance or my choices or anything in fact - because that is "Judginess, (which Isn't Allowed) or Shaming - which is a sin!

The one which I hear said / see written in text conversations with all English people, (I'm not English) is "I was sat there". Oh and "I'm going Sainbury's", "I wasn't even out my bed"! Those last two were favourites of a former colleague and I never understood where the 'of' had gone...

I can't say I attach any particular moral value to those phrases btw, (maybe someone will now be able to tell me if they're only used by the entitled, smelly or selfish ? Who can say)?

I don't like the phrases and don't use them, but I can't say it gives me the .

Oh how about "gives me the rage"? Does anyone hate that? I love that. I use it sometimes...

Need or needs, then "to be" is omitted from a phrase, when did that start and where did it come from? I see it a lot on MN, never heard it IRL, probably just as well.

Throwing shade is another one, 'I threw him dark shade' 'I threw shade at her' What?

YY blank!

"That needs doing". Is that regional though? I know someone from Lancashire who says that a lot and I thought it was maybe regional.

Myself" "Yourself"- the car dealer's pronouns.

Bertrand I think I love you.....!

I can't tell you how hard I had to fight the urge to write a final email to the smug, useless head of the godawful prep school my DC's left to explain to her the difference between me, myself and I..... She taught them English (allegedly) as well!

It's hardly a new phrase. For those saying it means nothing... don't be daft, you know exactly what it means. Or is this another of those tiresome "I don't like using North American words and phrases" things?

I LOVE the phrase "throwing shade". It's absolutely poetic as a description for the kind of insult so delicately delivered that it can be denied.

"Calling out" means something totally different to "mentioned" as well - it's much more deliberately public.

I've always assumed it was from cricket or tennis or something where a player's shot is literally called 'Out!'

In other words if you call someone out on something you challenge them on their position.

I have no idea why some people think this relates to 'identity politics.'

As a phrase it's been around a very long time and is a metaphor just like any other.

Oh yeah maybe it's cricket... I assumed poker.

Isn't it connected to duelling -to call someone to a duel. Calling out is challenging someone.

Oh you might have it there owl! Next time I feel like saying it, I might say "I demand satisfaction" and hit someone with a glove .

I've only heard it used in the context of calling someone out for a fight! E.g. child aggressively threatening "I'm going to call you out" or the mates egging on to "call him out". It means going outside for a fight.

Cross posted with whiskey owl!

I didn't hear it growing up.

In these situations face to face (sober) people were ( are?) a lot more guarded in speech.

But if you prided yourself on plain talking and pointing out the error of people's ways you might have said: I put her right/ straight, I told him what for, I gave him a piece of my mind. The ghost of Ena Sharples rises in my mind!

Nah, it's definitely not asking someone for a physical fight where I live.

I can't remember having ever been challenged to a physical fight actually, so not sure what the phrase might be .

Yes whiskey owl mention removes the public, implied social shaming element. That's why I would prefer it!

I'm very confused by this ... I've heard the phrase 'calling someone/him/them out' my entire life. I do think it probably made its appearance when American TV became the norm over here, but, thats been the case for the last twenty years minimum?
Maybe its my age ( early twenties) but I don't think its at all unusual or awful. I am from the North too.