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To think Trump's vitriol over the NY attack is based solely on racism?

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MycatsaPirate · 01/11/2017 18:38

He has been very vocal over this attack, has called it evil, has said they need to send suspects to Guantanamo Bay, that he is a terrorist and they need to clamp down on immigration.

After the Vegas attack Trump said that the man 'was probably ill, had a lot of issues'.

Why the hell can't Trump supporters see him for the racist this man really is? It is sickening to see him leaping on any opportunity to push through a ban on Muslims entering the USA, even though I have no idea what race or religion the guy who was behind the NY attack was, but seems to forget that white men with legal guns kill more people in America all the time. And won't do anything to change that.

I actually despair.

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Rebeccaslicker · 02/11/2017 09:42

One of my best friends is a gay Muslim. His wedding was full of his family and lots of Muslim friends. Funnily enough, the wedding was at the top of a very tall building and nobody got thrown off.

Don't mistake the fanatics for the whole. That way you're just doing exactly what nutcases like ISIS want - divide and conquer.

falnui · 02/11/2017 09:48

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Want2bSupermum · 02/11/2017 09:49

claws He certainly fits the profile of someone who is highly likely to support the democrats. The attack was on a group which stereotypically supports Trump (country music fans).

scaryteacher · 02/11/2017 09:51

Mycat I am still in utter disbelief that the majority voted in a man who is a misogynist, racistt, homophobic, bigot. Really? I could see it coming a mile off. All it shows is that the voters aren't in favour of the liberal agenda espoused by the Washington elite.

If those governing don't listen, you get results like Trump and Brexit.

Rebeccaslicker · 02/11/2017 10:00

You do realise that not all Muslims are Saudis, right?

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Lweji · 02/11/2017 10:31

After the last few years of terror attack you cannot say Islam is not attacking civilised society

I can. I have Muslim friends and acquaintances who don't attack anyone.
Some islamic groups are on a power trip, they attack both Western countries and Muslim populations. I recommend that you watch more than Fox News or read the Daily Mail.

Lweji · 02/11/2017 10:32

That way you're just doing exactly what nutcases like ISIS want - divide and conquer.

Exactly.

As well as what white supremacists want.

BackBoiler · 02/11/2017 10:46

There are plenty of Christian 'lunatics' that preach that 'queers and lesbians' will burn in hell! Some people use religion as an excuse to discriminate, abuse and murder innocent people.

My opinion is that religion has no place in modern society and that a book written many many years ago should not be the basis of decision making etc but I respect people's beliefs and understand that it can provide comfort, especially during difficult times. Beliefs should not be forced upon anyone else, they are private imo a little like your sex life!

What Donald Trump says is literally his name, some hot smelly gas that no one wants there! (Apart from the immature few that think firing one off at someone is something to be proud of)

DoctorTwo · 02/11/2017 10:46

America’s issues with gun crime are not solely or majorly to do with gun possession. Canada has more guns per capita and vastly less gun deaths. Ditto Switzerland. America is broken. Racist, violent, ghettoised, crime-ridden and run by corporations that care more about the bottom line than the healthcare and prisons they have been allowed to control.

Spot on MrsTP.

Rebeccaslicker · 02/11/2017 10:50

Well, Lweji, those westboro baptists are just lovely people. So full of tolerance. All Christians must be just like that.

And the Vegas shooter didn't seem to have a religion. So all atheists and agnostics must want to kill people.

Rebeccaslicker · 02/11/2017 10:51

Why can't I attach a pic?! I wanted to add that brilliant photo where the christians are marching saying "homosexuality is a sin! Return to Jesus!"

And someone standing in front of them is dressed up as Jesus and has a sign that says, "I'm cool with it!"😂😂

Lweji · 02/11/2017 10:52

In addition to MrsTP's quote, there is the issue of gun control, not just possession.
Other countries with more gun ownership will have better records and control over who owns what weapons, unlike the US.

It's a complex problem that is not helped by unregulated gun ownership.

As is ISIS, which is not solved by Muslim bans.

falnui · 02/11/2017 10:53

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Lweji · 02/11/2017 10:54

"The gays"? Hmm

Lweji · 02/11/2017 10:57

Well, thank God that there are no countries run by the Westboro Baptist Church, then.

They would feel free to start killing "the gays".

Rebeccaslicker · 02/11/2017 10:58

A couple of posts telling someone she is fat and everything else slamming Muslims and going on about "the gays"?

Crap troll is crap. I thought half term was last week!

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Lweji · 02/11/2017 11:05

I had missed this part:

James Fields was a young man who was surrounded by yobs attacking his car on the street he drove away to get out of danger. Also the tin that died was not killed by him she was obese and had a heart attack.

If you where on the street in your car and a bunch of masked yobs came and attacked you I AM sure you would try and get away.

Shock

That was EXACTLY what DIDN'T happen.

Lweji · 02/11/2017 11:07

Islam is a current treat killing 8 in my in the last week.

Darling, if Islam was a threat as you say, as a whole religion, with 1.8 billion worldwide, you and I wouldn't be having this conversation.

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Lweji · 02/11/2017 11:21

Occidental Dissent is hardly reputable news. Grin

but Islam are murdering inncocent every week.

It depends on what you consider "Christianity". Innocent people are killed all the time in supposedly Christian countries.
One example is black people by police in the US.

Lweji · 02/11/2017 11:23

Fringe media are furiously trying to absolve the white nationalist who allegedly killed Heather Heyer
"Trolls (ahem) and anonymous message boards are pushing the story that she died from a heart attack and health issues -- and not because she was hit by a car"

www.mediamatters.org/blog/2017/09/08/Fringe-media-are-furiously-trying-to-absolve-the-white-nationalist-who-allegedly-killed-He/217886

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