To ask about pubic hair removal?

[cherrycola2004]

I’m quite new here not sure where to post this so feel free to move the post.

I just wonder if you remove your pink hair how do you do it? Shaving is making me so sore and itchy, hair removal cream doesn’t seem to work too well, Home waxing kit was pointless and pretty much just took my skin off (ouch!)

Is a proper wax the only way?

Any tips or tricks?

Thank

I understand what you're saying, Jacques.

Karlos, some people believe in God too. Are you going to say 'bollocks' to them too?

Another thing about the society we live in- we areconstantly bombarded with the message that women's bodies are dirty and smelly and leaky and have to be modified in all sorts of ways to make them acceptable. Special washes and wipes and scented pads and sprays.....The removal of pubic hair for hygiene reasons buys into that narrative.

"I wonder what the feminist view is on men, like me, that have their pubes waxed off?"

Well unless you are bring pressured to do it by an individual or by societal expectations or by other people creating a narrative that you are dirty, smelly and unhygienic if you don't then I don't think there is a feminist view on men removing pubic hair.

But don't talk about smell and sweat and hygiene. That is all obvious bollocks

From the smell of the lining of my gym shorts before I used to get the whole back, sack and crack wax done, I can assure you that hair removal makes a huge difference.

This year I embraced my inner 70s hippy and stopped shaving, OP. DH is a little bemused but it certainly is easier.

I don't think there is a feminist view on men removing pubic hair.

Mine was a rhetorical question, as I'm fairly sure there isn't a feminist view on this either. This begs the question: why does there appear to be a feminist view on women removing body hair? Could it not be accepted that they also do it out of personal choice because they like how it looks and feels, and because their sexual partner likes it?

Bertrand, who is telling us that though?

Women can be dirty, smelly and leaky with or without hair, menstruation is a natural (and for many, unwelcome) act. For myself, having heavy periods, I'm more confident in my feeling of hygiene when a simple preparatory wipe will ensure that there is no residue.

Without being very graphic, it's reassurance - for me. Other women have light periods - or worse ones than I do. Whatever makes them feel better is fine by me.

I'll give another example - last time I went to be waxed I discovered that they did nasal waxing. This I thought was a marvellous thing so I had it done. I don't have a particularly hairy nose but I do pull out the odd one or two hairs. I've had a cold this week and immediately noticed the difference. When I say it felt 'cleaner' I'm sure this won't have the same connotations for you but believe me, I didn't get so startled looking in the rear view mirror.

Going back to removal of body hair, I think that women would be a much stronger force if we didn't aim to be so divisive amongst our own sex. We decide what we'll buy, what we'll watch, whom we date and marry; we have massive earning potential and actuality, so why do some of us feel so possessive of other women's bodies?

Both of us are hairless down there - ( male and female) and sex is in a different league now!

“I personally feel cleaner if I remove my pubic hair.”
Some people personally feel the earth is flat or the world was created in 7 days. Just because you feel something personally doesn’t mean it’s not bollocks.

Jolly good. Now, could you help me with how to make myself feel cleaner after my regular transvaginal ultrasounds, if I grow all my hair back just to please you (given you apparently have a somewhat peculiar interest in what other women do to their pubic hair) although it's all been lasered off so thankfully it's not likely to grow back any time soon

Throughout 2 years solid of monthly fertility treatment, I have several transvaginal ultrasound scans every month (sometimes up to 3 a week), which leaves me with massive gobs of jelly stuck to my labia afterwards. Could you please explain how me growing my hair back would make clean up afterwards easier than a quick wipe? Note I'm not saying having hair would make me objectively unclean. I'm asking how having hair would make things personally easier and more comfortable for me as an individual.

Thank you so much - as you seem to very invested in advising others what to do with their nether regions, I'm sure you know much more about how I personally experience my own body than I do...

Pink Hair

that made me chuckle, I may steal that term, sounds nicer than “Shaving my Pubes.”
Brb going to Trim my Pink hair

I shave in the direction of the hair growth. Also I only use a Venus with Olay shave gel bars razor.
It's so much easier than messing around with shaving gel, and it means a smoother shave.

I respect you too Bertrand but dont you see the irony of your words to joey Well unless you are bring pressured to do it by an individual or by societal expectations . That sounds a lot like doing exactly the same but the opposite viewpoint ifswim. I hate the old cliched tripe anout pubix hair. Cant we concentrate our efforts on something more useful, like FGM?
Fwiw, i have a big old bush, i haven't shaved my legs in over a year and i got a degree in Womens' Studies in 1996. So, pretty hardcore feminist here.
An individual should have bodily autonomy regardlesd of other peoples belief systems.

"An individual should have bodily autonomy regardlesd of other peoples belief systems"

I agree. Do you think women in our society have that?

I read this as public hair removal.

I get a wax maybe four times a year and shave in between. I've used a new razor that has like a bar
Of soap looking thing on it it gives no rash it's brilliant.

I find the waxing makes the hair less bushy and easier to shave once it starts to regrow.

Do you think women in our society have that?

Of course they don't.

I would have thought a decent start towards achieving that for all woman would be to allow those of us that DO have body autonomy the ownership of our decisions rather than being told its "bollocks" as per pp.

No, they don't of course, not yet. Imo, the fashion, availbility and prevalence of porn has had a horrendous influence. My concern is that females of my DD's age particularly feel pressured to do something they don't want, be that shaving, sexual contact. That is the crux. If we empower more women to say fuck that to conforming to patriarchal expectations then in theory, and no coercion etc, then hopefully we have a society whereby pubic hair is a non-issue. Women shave , wax, go full bush, whatever they wish. coercion and sexual violence needs to be stamped out. The hair is a red herring. I dont know if I"m explaining properly what I mean

I am hairless because sex is far, far better. End fucking of. If wanting and having better sex is political, I'm on it.

I understand what you mean Hoof and I couldn't agree more.

YY Hoof - great post

Thank you . Longtime poster here who massively respects jacques and witch.

I apologize for "bollocks"

I am just so fed up of being told that women who choose not to remove their pubic hair are dirty and unhygienic. And that women who do remove it are doing it entirely uninfluenced by society's norms, advertising and patriarchal expectations. None of us make decisions in a vacuum.

Obviously, pubic hair preferences are minor in the scheme of things. But they are a proxy argument for how women are seen in our society, and how we are expected to conform.

@BertrandRussell sorry I didn't actually mean you, I worded that poorly.

I didn't notice you'd said it

I agree none of us make decisions in a vacuum and I would NEVER suggest that pubic hair is unhygienic or dirty. But lack of it makes MY life more pleasant and that should be a valid choice free from derision you know?

I get it @bertrand I really do. Cant reply now but will return.

Bertrand I know, I can hear your frustration in your posts. I agree that we don't make decisions in a vacuum, we're all influenced by myriad factors - what we read in the press, what we see on tv, what we read here and what we're glean from talking to people... it all affects what we do and how we do it to some degree.

I just think that in focusing on pubic hair removal we are alienating women of a different viewpoint, really making a 'them and us' scenario where none needs to exist. I winced at Ecclesiastes and Karl's posts because they resorted to attempting to ridicule and I just can't take that seriously, it deeply offends me when women (particularly) hold up other women's personal choices for censure. How does that ever effect positive change?

Hoof's post resonated with me so much because there are very many, far bigger problems that we could and should tackle, FGM as she mentioned. We're a formidable sex and could accomplish this through educating as a start... but not in a bunfight scenario, that way - nobody's listening and we just become 'for or against', a divided and diminished group.

I can't ever agree with the "bigger problems to fight" view. So many bigger problems are just the smaller ones on a sliding scale. FGM = telling women how their genitals should be (and mutilating them), a culture of pubic hair removal for teenage girls = telling women how their genitals should be (without the mutilation).