To ask about pubic hair removal?

[cherrycola2004]

I’m quite new here not sure where to post this so feel free to move the post.

I just wonder if you remove your pink hair how do you do it? Shaving is making me so sore and itchy, hair removal cream doesn’t seem to work too well, Home waxing kit was pointless and pretty much just took my skin off (ouch!)

Is a proper wax the only way?

Any tips or tricks?

Thank

But accepting it may be relevant for you in a way that’s unclear to me, surely you can see that your particular circumstances are, with respect, if minimal relevance to the general trend we are considering here

I didnt find my genuine experiences being referred to as "bullocks" very respectful to be honest.

I find it bizarre that women can't accept different experiences. But just to "make it clear" for you, I lose particularly stringy clots that do get absolutely matted in amongst the hair. As I said I lost hair through illness and the first period post that was a revelation. It was so, so much more comfortable without having to have full on washes when changing a tampon.

From my point of view, suffering with periods is very much a patriarchal issue due to the lack of support one gets in the NHS. Hair removal to deal therewith is a drop in the ocean

I did not refer to your experience as bollocks. The popular myth that being without pubic hair is cleaner absolutely is bollocks, however.

Well said Karlos.
The limited amounts of adult hair that we still have on our bodies (since we evolved from our ape -like ancestors) have all persisted because they confer a physiological advantage.

Women have been menstruating since our origin. Just cos some porn fiend or some git selling us overpriced razors and horrendously harsh and carcinogenic creams ...we've allowed ourselves and what is much worse, our young daughters, believe that their beautiful natural bodies are somehow wrong and unclean.

DavidBowiesNumber1

No examination needed. I like to be clean. End of.

So by implication, being in a natural state makes a woman dirty.
I still contend that a group of girls growing up outside of patriarchal judgement would ever believe this about their natural state.

Jacques- your experience is not most people's. And I apologised for my exasperated "bollocks" some time ago.

@Bertrand - and I acknowledged and said I hadn't noticed you had.

I was referring to this :-

*“I personally feel cleaner if I remove my pubic hair.”
Some people personally feel the earth is flat or the world was created in 7 days. Just because you feel something personally doesn’t mean it’s not bollocks.
*

But apparently that isn't my personal experience being dismissed as bollocks

Jacques, I don’t want to argue the toss with you because it’s tedious, but you had not at that stage introduced your unique circumstances. I was referring to the general myth put forward here and on similar threads previously that being without pubic hair is cleaner. People may think that but absent extraordinary circumstances that has no basis in fact.
I think you know that, really - why make this about you?

melody some natural states are dirty. Shit, piss, snot; all natural. I wouldn't be happy with either of those just left on my body either

It's just a preference, like how some people prefer long hair/ nails, to short hair/nails. Some feel cleaner without it, some don't like how it feels when it grows back, or how it looks bald.

BertrandRussell

Oops... ok, so by "stop caring" what I meant was: I think that as you get older, you (generally) become more comfortable with yourself and your body, freeing yourself of societal pressures and caring less about what others might expect of you. It requires maturity, ultimately learning to love yourself, and to realise that if someone doesn't like you, or some aspect or attribute, that is their problem. What other people think of you is none of your business.

They aren’t left on your body if you wipe efficiently

bettermum that doesn’t address the fact that until about 10 years ago very few people of any age did anything but trim the bikini line. Why do women now have to reach ‘a certain maturity’ before they are comfortable with that?

cardibach more bothersome to remove if they're in your pubes rather than on smooth skin though

Cardibach actually further back in history, especially ancient history, women shaved it all off, the Eqyptians and Greeks etc. Cultural norms sometimes come and go.

*the become popular again

*then

Anyway, my religion AND freedom of choice mean I prefer being hair free. When I can be arsed that is. When I can't I don't. MY BODY, MY DECISION.

* Well I don't menstruate any more. But when I did I managed to keep myself perfectly clean. And if I hadn't been able to, some minimal hair removal around my vulva would have sorted the problem. Why would I have needed to remove all of it? Do people drag loo paper all over their mons?*

A standard bikini wax just removes any hair that might not be covered by bikini bottoms - you keep your pants on and they just do round the edges. You still have hair on the labia, just not in the creases where it meets your thighs

To have the hair around the vulva removed, you book a Brazilian wax - that's a knickers off jobbie. The places I've been I've been to I was on my back with my knees to my chest so they could do the whole vulva (incl the perineum), some places get you on all fours. The point is to remove the whole shebang underneath

Of course hair on the mons doesn't make any different to menstruation. I personally haven't managed to avoid contact between menstrual blood or vaginal discharge and my vulva however. Pubic hair certainly didn't make me unclean - but after I started getting Brazilian waxes, I realised how much I preferred the feeling of a hairless undercarriage, particularly during my period. Again, purely individual preference. It may not be natural to remove the hair down there, I just like how it feels to me, personally.

cardibach us Muslims have been doing it for ages

I’m happy for you to make any decision you like, DavidBowie. I don’t much like you suggesting (as you did) that people who don’t shave are dirty.
Wicked I appreciate that, but I’m talking about the speed of change of cultural norms within our culture.

It's a trend... they come and go! A trend propagated by the porn industry. Admittedly a very unhealthy trend for young people due to its association with sex and sense of desirability, which particularly for young girls is sadly so often linked with their perceived self-worth. This is what I mean. A woman in her 30s has a stronger sense of self and understanding of worth than a 13 year old girl. Both may well remove hair, but the reasons for deciding to do so will likely be very different.

cardibach

Plesse tell me when I suggested that. I've said I think it's dirty. In my experience. On my body.

This thread is depressing.

But the idea that anyone thought our own lovely Betrand was a man gave me a chuckle.

I had to pick up on this:

So do you not do anything to it at all? No trim/shape?
Does it not show outside your underwear?
If it does, do you never sunbathe/swim or whatever could mean wearing something that would show your pubes?
Genuinely curious.

I don't do much to mine (occasionally trim, nothing else, though I have removed more hair in the past on occasion from time to time) and it does not show outside my underwear. It is entirely confined to my vulva and mons pubis. Surely this is quite standard? It certainly would not show outside a swimsuit or bikini. I can't see how it could. I wear fairly small string bikinis on holiday and sunbathe and swim and nothing shows at all. My pubic hair is quite thick but it isn't anywhere that is not covered by underwear or a bikini. Now I am genuinely curious as to whether it is me that is unusual.

schadenfreude I would agree, and also wonder if there's a possibility of desensitisation if you don't have a cushion of hair around your particularly sensitive areas. I once had a more thorough wax than I had requested (!) and couldn't wear jeans until the hair grew back as my clothes rubbed on me so much. It was not as pleasant as it may sound!

Like I say, while in some personal instances people may find it more practical, the menstruation issue is a red herring, as is the "getting more comfortable as you age" thing. Women managed for a long time before this particular trend, so although right now it may appear like women in their late 30s upwards have opted out a part of grooming that younger women do, it's not the case. The women I know over 40 are mostly perplexed by the millennial pube obsession.