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To think driving to roads where there's good trick or treating is a bit wrong

447 replies

sahknowme · 30/10/2017 23:38

We live in an area that puts a lot of effort into trick or treating (assumingly for the "local" kids). There's recently been a thread on a forum asking for streets/routes that are good to drive to for their kids to trick or treat, and our street has been mentioned.

AIBU to think this is a bit wrong/grabby, and we are doing it for our local area - not for randoms to drive from all over town?!

OP posts:
GreenTulips · 31/10/2017 09:52

Most don't knock at strangers houses, these a reneignoirs friends and local kids

pinkingshears · 31/10/2017 09:58

I hate Halloween. I think it is begging.
I live in rural Scotland and the kids go Guising (reciting poem/party piece in return for sweet/bun/apple/nuts). They get fed up with it aged around 8/10 but my 13 yr old ds has just been invited 'by a girl' and suddenly wants to go again! Grin
Our small village is about 6m from the next one. If 'next village' kids came there would be ructions as the local villages are not friendly! There is one particular house in the village which lays on a huge show and is just mobbed by all the teenagers from the local High School (1,000 kids) who travel in to be with their mates. The owner seems to thrive on it but not sure I could cope with that!

WineIsTheAnswer · 31/10/2017 10:05

I live in an area that's well known to be a good TOT spot. Only houses with pumpkins participate but that's pretty much every other house. It's the only really good area in town and surrounding villages. "Local" kids tend to go round first and get packs of sweets/goody bags, kids from outside the area get a sweet or two. Once the sweets are gone you switch off the light in your pumpkin and no one knocks. My DC sit by the window and watch the scary kids go by. Everyone has a great time and I think it's fair as local kids only do our area but others can up their sweet count in their own areas too.

I would much rather other kids come here and play by the rules (only lights on pumpkin houses) than knock one every door of an undecorated road or miss out.

StaplesCorner · 31/10/2017 10:05

People have asked on our local Facebook page "where's all the good places for trick or treating?!" - they are not interested in lovely decorations or people making an effort, they want to know where they can get the most free sweets. Probably one of those looking for "big posh houses" referred to sneeringly earlier on in the thread.

People coming in to our area in cars are not coming from places bereft of Halloween candy opportunities; they come because they want to get a big haul together - normally early to late teens, dropped off by parents who park on the pavement and have a fag whilst their kids are "dressed up" with a mask each. They follow local little kids all dressed up in costumes that took ages, sometimes going to the door with them because they know that residents will then think they are together, and then stuff their bags etc with great handfuls of sweets. Sometimes they push other kids out of the way. They don't speak. Then they all pile back in the car.

Or there's those that come on foot, this time with a dog tied to a pram normally round the corner, reluctantly pushed with one hand by a mum with a fag in the other hand. Reception age kids and a toddler in pyjamas trample across front gardens with shouts of "get more here!" but once at the door they rarely speak, just grab.

Our street always makes an effort, I've had massive parties in the past, I used to take mine ToT when they were young only to our area and often only to pre-agreed houses. I am glad we had all those great times, and I like to see kids enjoy themselves, but how is that behaviour acceptable? I think this is what the OP is referring to.

Orangealien · 31/10/2017 10:10

Some areas are more suited to it. Eg a cul de sac with loads of families living in houses set no more than a car length back from the pavement

Compared with houses which are more spaced out on an A road each with longer driveways

I don't really see the problem. If you don't want non locals at your door, don't put a pumpkin out. People driving to places are generally only going to be bringing primary kids.

fairgame84 · 31/10/2017 10:13

Do people put their kids ToT hauls on FB like they do with Christmas presents?
Just wondering if that might be the reason some people are so grabby.
The kids and parents are normally well behaved in my area.

SonyaY · 31/10/2017 10:32

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fevversbetterout · 31/10/2017 10:33

This is nearly the grimmest thread I've had the misfortune to stumble across. Now I know why there was no room at the inn, and why Brexit was a marginal hit with UK voters.

coddiwomple · 31/10/2017 10:42

why Brexit was a marginal hit with UK voters.

good lord

AvoidingDM · 31/10/2017 10:47

To the lady who mentioned her 8yo looking to go guising in the nearest town. Can he not arrange go out with some of his school pals?

Doublechocolatetiffin · 31/10/2017 10:50

Wow there are some miserable people on here! When my DD is old enough we’ll have to drive her somewhere if we want to go trick or treating. We live rurally, single track roads with no pavements and very few houses. We’d have to go into the nearest town or village. I would never have imagined that would make me a CF but some of you seem to think so!

coddiwomple · 31/10/2017 10:50

I'll just give my clearly ridiculous point of view that it's a mean-minded dictat and I wouldn't follow suit.

clearly you are ridiculous, and you are the one trying to impose rules to others.No one cares or try to tell you how or to whom you give things to. What make you think you have the right to judge how others distribute free gifts?

As long as you don't bother your neighbour, you can invite coaches of Chinese tourists to your door if you fancy. Your neighbours are free to reserve their generosity to the local children, it has nothing to do with you.

sparklewater · 31/10/2017 11:03

We live on a main road and no-one ever comes TOT along it. We have a pumpkin and sweets every year, but we just end up eating them!

This year we're all going out for the first time and we're definitely driving to a more enjoyable spot a few roads away. There are houses there which go all-out and have loads of decorations so there's lots of non-local 'traffic'. It's all part of the fun!

Amd724 · 31/10/2017 11:04

As an American, while I know the tradition started in Scotland, I feel our Halloween traditions are intermingling with the previous and original traditions.

I moved here six years ago, Halloween wasn’t nearly as big as it is now. I don’t know if that’s just the intersection of American culture with UK culture, or if its a natural progression. However, I do miss the Halloween culture in the States. Full blocks of homes are decorated, people take their kids all over the area, on foot, on bike, etc. because its not about the candy/sweets but its just fun. We’d have state fairs around the same time, you’d go to amusement parks where you could trick or treat and go on rides. It’s a very different atmosphere.

If a child knocked on my door from a different neighbourhood, I’d have no idea because I don’t know many of the kids in my area. However, I don’t let them grab, I hand out candy to them. And, I do make them say trick or treat, or tell me about their costumes. It’s how its done at home. This year, if I wasn’t about five days from my due date, I’d dress up in a costume myself, and greet the kids with a scare! Grin I’ve got a black cat and everything!

Finally, when I was a kid (like over 20 years ago), my parents never needed to come with us for trick or treating. All of the neighbourhood kids were out, and we’d kind of run where we wanted. My parents set ground rules, about certain homes we weren’t allowed to go to, and my oldest sister was somewhat responsible for us. It was fun, sometimes my cousins would come in from Chicago or a more rural suburb, to our more densely packed suburb, and ToT with us in our neighbourhood as they lived in apartments and it was harder for them to ToT. There’d be hundreds of kids around, and a few times my dad would need to bring home more candy on his way home from work! Then we’d go home, our parents would inspect our candy, and let us eat what was left. I now realise they took some for themselves, I’m guessing their “cut” from our takings for buying/making our outfits, and dealing with all the kids screaming at their door. Wink.

Halloween is fun, I still get excited and I’m in my thirties. I’m looking forward to taking my daughter around. This whole, you’re not from my neighbourhood is just sad. Yes, I understand that it means some houses can run out of candy/sweets. I understand that frustration. If you have an idea about certain areas that send their kids over, talk to the locals and ask them why, and if they’d look at organising for their kids like a party or something. Or a joint party, where everyone contributes.

Amd724 · 31/10/2017 11:08

Side note: When we’d arrive home after ToT, Halloween themed baked goods would be at home. My mom would make a pumpkin pie from scratch. We’d have a Halloween themed dinner. Halloween themed events were in the entire month of October. At my private catholic school, we’d go in our costumes and ToT around the different classes. The younger ones, like reception aged, would have a costume parade to the oldest students, usually about 12-13 year olds. The 12-13 year olds would vote on the best costume and that kid got a ribbon and bigger treat. Halloween is fun, y’all! Don’t ruin it by over thinking it!

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 31/10/2017 11:08

coddiwomple, I'm not imposing my ways on anybody and I wasn't posting to you in the first place but SonyaY about the 'necklaces' but you're very unpleasant and I'm done debating the point with you.

ArcheryAnnie · 31/10/2017 11:09

sparklewater if it's only a few roads away, why are you driving? The pressure of extra cars is one of the things that makes it a nuciance for more local people. (Plus it's easier to get the kids home afterwards because you are still knocking on the doors of the streets in-between the ToTing place and home.)

autumnintheair · 31/10/2017 11:09

not read thread but no problem at all its a two way street.

some roads dont go in for it so only one or two houses partake those kids are supposed to stay there and just do two?

Houses that dress up and want to partake want visitors ( young dc) so no I see nothing wrong at all with people going for areas with houses who have made effort, and nothing worse than decorating outside and getting sweets in and no one knocks.

The whole point is its a social thing!

autumnintheair · 31/10/2017 11:10

sonya

I have decorated my house for years but no one on my road does it - I cant organise them into doing it!

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 31/10/2017 11:11

sparklewater we also live on a long road and there aren't very many young children here. Most houses seem to follow the 'pumpkin lit so knock' principle and that works well. It's nice to see the houses decorated for Halloween, there are some creative people out there!

Smitff · 31/10/2017 11:13

“This is a local shop for local people! We don’t want strangers, here!”

Just give ‘em cake, OP.

JollyCat · 31/10/2017 11:14

all this "dont knock unless decorated" is not adhered to tho, my house is in near darkness and they still ALL insist on continual knocking, why? is my town just full of CFs?? Hmm

VodkaPenne · 31/10/2017 11:15

I live rurally. Even if we had close neighbours here who would have lit pumpkins (we don’t), I can’t see me taking a small child on foot on an un lit single track country road to trudge ten minutes each way to find one.

So we’re driving to the nearest village.

sparklewater · 31/10/2017 11:26

archeryannie Because they are LONG main roads and it would take about 30 mins to walk there. And another 30 back. Probably even longer with three small kids moaning about the cold! I know someone near the Halloween 'area' so we'll park outside their house. It's really no drama!

I love Halloween. I wish more people in my area would do it, but they don't, so we cast our net a bit wider so our kids can still have fun. If you have an issue with that I seriously think you might need to have a bit of a look at yourself!

Pomegranatepompom · 31/10/2017 11:28

I hate T or T, being disturbed in the evening and random people knocking on my door asking for sweets. We had a halloween party with friends so Dc didn't miss out. I won't take my DC out to T or T and I won't answer my door tonight (I once had a pumpkin thrown at it because I had dared to put a very polite note on the door saying I had a sleeping baby so please not to ring the bell).