To go to church toddler group in devil horns tomorrow?

[MrsMotherHen]

Its our toddler and baby group tomorrow and my DS2 doesnt and didnt want a outfit but does like a handband the glow in the dark types. So i just picked him up some devil horns.

Our play group is at a church hall. The priests wife helps to run it and he then comes and does song time with the guitair.

AIBU for him to wear the devil horns tomorrow? he is so looking forward to it.

I go to a church that most definitely doesn't celebrate halloween and actively runs alternatives because it is against it. That said, if someone came to our toddler group in devil horns, we wouldn't say anything to them. It might be commented on in private between volunteers but not in a horrible way.

Pengggwyn
I used to live in Germany. In Neuhausen, near stuttgart. Also known as Catholic Neuhausen because it’s predominantly catholic unlike the surrounding villages. There, the Germans have appropriated a pagan festival in spectacular form. Every year, there is a massive parade with highly decorated floats and all sorts of antics, mischief and mayhem is set loose. Traditionally married people can have sex with whomsoever they want for a two week period every year. Women do silly things and cut off men’s ties at work. During the parade, Narren run up to people stealing shoes, carrying off people -women as they’re lighter (it nearly happened to me but I shouted in English and he took someone else). I’m really surprised at the offence taken by Halloween. here’s a little info Its German Mardi Gras.

DD is still off school and I’m taking her to a church playgroup. She asked to go in her witches outfit. I said no and explained why it could be disrespectful. I’ve agreed to put her green hair spray in for it though! I definitely wouldn’t take her in a devil’s outfit

The cross - the torture implement that killed jesus (and plenty of others) in such a diabolical way, is on display everywhere, yet a cute little toddler wearing a pair of devil's horns causes consternation !

Nonsense. They're choosing to hold a Halloween party, a pagan celebration. If they were so mortally offended by witches outfits and devils horns they wouldn't hold the party in the first place.

Obviously.

I have an old book of "children's letters to God", which contains a drawing of a nervous-looking child dressed for Hallowe'en, saying "I'm going trick or treating in a devil's costume. Is that OK?"

Okay ignore me, so there's no party. But isn't the OP implying that it's expected that kids will be dressed in Halloween costumes at the play group? I think if a church playgroup is likely to be offended by witches and horns they should make it clear ahead of time.

Pengggwyn
Yes it was, around 50,000 people turn up in a medium sized village.

I get what you’re saying. However from my POV, church hall isn’t a place of worship in the same way as a church. Is it to you? I’d find the horns disrespectful in a church, mosque etc.

Really?

'Its our toddler and baby group tomorrow and my DS2 doesnt and didnt want a outfit but does like a handband the glow in the dark types.'

I read that as the OP expecting other kids to be in Halloween attire.

"I didn't say I was offended."

Well goodness me, if you wouldn't be offended then why assume anyone would be?

I'm one of Mumsnet's most vocal atheists and I wouldn't do this. Just bad manners.

Have you got time to make them into ears?

And yes, loads of Christians wouldn't mind, but some would. And you are effectively a guest. You're right not to let him wear them.

Honestly? It depends on the church. My priest dressed up as the grim reaper for a fancy dress party (appropriate for the theme)

I'm with Bert on this. Unless tomorrow has been specifically designated as a costumed Hallowe'en party, then it could easily be construed as disrespectful or misjudged.

Would you do it in a Synagogue hall or a Mosque hall??

Do you want for your PFB (?) to be known as "the devil horned kid" or something of that nature?

finally, this is somewhat a privilege that certain children 'can enjoy', for if this child were of another heritage, there is no way that I can imagine that their parent would be putting on devil horns for an event non ?

"Would you do it in a Synagogue hall or a Mosque hall??"

Oh purlease!

Hi ahead with people really knew what went on in some churches a kids devil horn would be tame in comparison. If anything is satanic it's the undercore of the church invented by men. Waiting for born again happy clappy Christians to say I'm under attack by Satan

Depends on the congregation - if it was an RC church with lots of Irish in the congregation then it would be fine most of the time but if it was a very austere Baptist (etc) church then I wouldn't think it was appropriate.

I'm more offended about the Christian Crusade and how many innocent souls died. Give me a toddler with cute horns any day. Wouldn't offend at all. God I wish humanity would evolve past all this so we didn't even need to ask this question.

"I'm more offended about the Christian Crusade and how many innocent souls died. Give me a toddler with cute horns any day."

I agree, that is probably the only too options available. Take note OP- your child must either wear the horns or go and sack Istanbul.

I would do it to piss the vicar off. The vicar is vile.
Nice vicar: I would not do it.