This isn’t fair, this is fucking evil.

[MrsWrex]

My wife has had her pip reassessment reduced because of one point.

Her condition hasn’t changed one bit, we have letters from various professionals stating this. Some assessor that knows jack about her condition has stated she has no problems with communication at all because she ‘sounded intelligent’ (yes, that is written in the reply letter, apparently you can’t have autism if you sound intelligent)

You can’t even get a diagnosis of autism without some glaring problems with communication.

Sorry, just needed to vent. Can’t do it at home as dw is stressed enough as it is. I’ve been trying to get her to stop adding up how much this is going to affect us. Dd has been diagnosed with autism too, I just feel terrified for them both in the future.

I’ve called up for a mandatory reconsideration, I am fairly certain we’ve got enough evidence to win a tribunal. This system just seems to be designed to stress us as much as possible, it’s wrong.

www.disabilitysecrets.com/topics/disability-alcohol-or-drug-addiction

Since 1996, you can no longer get Social Security disability insurance (SSDI) or SSI benefits for alcoholism or drug addiction alone. You can, however, get disability benefits for damage caused by the alcohol or drug abuse, such as liver damage, emotional problems, cardiovascular disease, or cancer. But this is true only if you are no longer drinking or abusing drugs, or if your medical condition is so severe that the damage caused by the drinking or drugs is irreversible.

Also

So despite the daily mail and its ilk claiming this is so common and people get paid money for drugs/alcohol..its not the case and hasn't been for a long time. You can however get help for disabilities caused by addictions. As you should be able to. Despite the addictions being 'self inflicted'

Heh nevermind, those are american

Pretty sure the same rules apply to us though

Hmm apparently the DWP views alcohol related disorders
as a recognized psychiatric disorder.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/medical-guidance-for-dla-and-aa-decision-makers-adult-cases-staff-guide

I understand that I think tbh. Though really really doubt that there are many claimants that are passed for alcoholism or drug addiction.

Though really really doubt that there are many claimants that are passed for alcoholism or drug addiction ALONE

Alcohol and drug addiction come with associated physical and mental health issues. They need support just as much as other ill/disabled. Ewan1234 it is not a matter of choosing one claimant over another and never will be. Cutting off their in work/out of work benefits will only make the situation worse in the long run. Your son really should have appealed as difficult as it might have seemed. If he needs help with the care descriptors in PIP you need to persevere. Please reapply and appeal if he is turned down again. Use a CAB/welfare rights/community law centre to help.

So SO wrong that they get support over real ill people.

If I had a drug or alcohol problem I'd get so much help.

Because I have PTSD and a physical disability I get bugger all without having to wait for years. It's disgusting and wrong.

No sympathy, sorry. Yes people cope differently but it's still a choice. People don't choose to put cancer into their bodies.

I think it is fair that people should get sickness benefit for diseases and conditions caused by alcohol and drug addictions. And of course they are proper illnesses.

So SO wrong that they get support over real ill people.

They don;t get support over 'real' ill people though. Its not either/or.

If those turned down for sickness benefits who are actually entitled appealed, then they would get the benefits they were entitled to. Its shit that appeals have to be done as the right decision should be made to start with, but thats the shitty system we have to deal with.

Directing anger at other ill people is wrong. Direct anger at the system and those who made it so hard for disabled people to get what they are entitled to tbh

They're ill because they made themselves ill. We as disabled people shouldn't have to appeal what we are rightfully entitled to. I didn't give myself my disabilities.

If you have a physical disability that prevents you from working or you need help with daily living then you should get the benefits. Others have suggested you should appeal if you think you have been wrongly denied the payments or seek help from one of the associations mentioned on this thread.

People don't go out deliberately to become alcoholics and drug addicts.

I have full disability benefits. I did appeal and was awarded what I needed.

Of course they go out of their way to take drugs or drink alcohol. They're not forced to visit a pub or find a dealer.

Lots of illnesses and disability are caused by our own actions. Going skiing, horse riding, road traffic accidents, etc. Most of my friends do sports, and many have had time off with injuries that require surgery.

What about people who self harm are anorexic, should they also be denied sickness benefits because "they did it to themselves"

'No sympathy, sorry. Yes people cope differently but it's still a choice. People don't choose to put cancer into their bodies.'

Some people do get cancer due to their addictions. They are ill and deserve just as much help as any other disabled person.

We as disabled people shouldn't have to appeal what we are rightfully entitled to

Of course disabled people shouldn't have to appeal. This is not the fault of other people who try to claim for their own illness though.

Again, anger directed at the wrong place.

This is disgusting.

My mum had her PIP denied recently. She has ushers syndrome, was born deaf and went blind later. They said she could plan and follow a familiar route so lost points there, lets ignore the fact she can't see where she's going so no route will ever be familiar!

At appeal she was given high rate care and mobility.

I work for a well known cancer charity as a benefits advisor. One of my clients was given the less than 6 months to live certificate. Atos refused it. Twice. It's a joke.

Not angry. Saddened and disgusted.

I will never, ever see it in the same light as someone who is genuinely ill, sorry.

Vote Labour

This country needs change. The most vulnerable are being let down. The government in this very rich country won't spend money on the sick and inferm, but they keep funding wars and keep upping mp wages.

The Government in this country prefer to chase the vulnerable for pennies, rather than the rich tax evaders, who are apparently invulnerable, for billions, because we are vulnerable so it’s a darn sight easier. Oh, and the mainstream media have been doing a very good job for years to make sure many people deeply resent us.

Sadly, Afternooncatnap, I suspect that Labour will do the same; yes, even with Corbyn at the helm. And any other party/coalition. The ‘public’ have been fed stories about the feckless benefit scroungers and lazy fraudulently disabled for too long to turn opiion around quickly.

I think it will be a very courageous party who campaign on a platform of fair benefits.

Who remembers New Labours New Deal?

the mainstream media have been doing a very good job for years to make sure many people deeply resent us.

Yes and quite effectively. Channel 5 is the biggest offender in this in my opinion, although channel 4 is not far behind. I honestly don't know how it is allowed to target one particular demographic for such biased programming. The format seems to be pick any random noun or verb - 'picnicing', 'seaside' 'travelling' 'council' 'flats' 'food' 'obesity'.....then tag on the word 'benefits' and then Walla! You have prime time programming.

My heart sank when the BBC hopped on the bandwagon too. So now i'm forced to pay for the tosh.

I urge anyone to try and explain this to me in a way that I can understand the fairness of this because this is whats happening, the wrong people are being helped here and people who really also need it are not getting it because??? why???

I doubt you would ever understand because you clearly do not accept addiction as an illness. Addiction is not a lifestyle choice. It's not self inflicted.

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Who forces the alcohol down an alcoholic's throat then? Their GP? Their children? No. It's self inflicted because it's done by them.