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To be furious over MIL throwing our 1 year old around!

97 replies

HappinessAlwaysAhead · 22/10/2017 17:14

I’m a frequent mumsnetter but I have NC for this so I don’t put myself.

We live in the South of England and have the inlaws visiting this weekend. I’ve had a multitude of issues with our inlaws, very much justifiably and you lot have been a great help on numerous occasions.

Basically DH has vowed to be less of a pushover with them and pull them up for the things they do that aren’t okay.

So PIL’s are staying at a hotel and we popped round for a while this afternoon. We went up for a look in their room and our DDS (4 & 1) we’re getting a little bored. DH and I started having a little rough & tumble with them on the bed as DD2 especially loves this. MIL started to get involved and let’s just say my heart was in my mouth, she picked up DD2 and was throwing her around like a rag doll, literally I saw her little head flopping around in the air and I felt sick. She was throwing her down onto the bed with far too much force and her little head was just flying around 😱😰 before i’d managed to intervene, DH said, “Mum could you stop that please, she’s only 1”. MIL replied “she’s absolutely fine, it’s not like I’m beating her up”. Typical answer from MIL. Never just “okay, no problem” she always defends herself and leaves me with no confidence that she won’t do it again. In fact I’m pretty confident she will do it again.

When we left the hotel, I explained to my jisbahd that I’m not happy and that I wish he’d said something like “I’m the parent and I don’t feel comfortable with you doing that to her”. He basically said he doesn’t want to talk about it until the kids are in bed but literally my blood was boiling and my kids safety is my priority and he needs to handle these situations better. DD1 was in the car but I was making sure to talk in such a way that she wouldn’t understand. (Also she was busy playing with her new paw patrol toy so was very much zoned out). Anyway, DH is now very upset with me and says now is not the time to discuss this or to discuss this further with his parents. I just feel at a loss. He promised me things would get better with his parents but now he’s starting to blame me, saying I’m making things worse. All I’m doing is trying to take proper care of my children and put their interests first. So is DH right on this, should I just put up & shut up? I just feel so lost with all of this. He’s through in our living room now with his parents and the kids all happy as Larry, while I’m sat in the kitchen feeling rubbish.

OP posts:
missyB1 · 22/10/2017 18:03

It was a weird place to start rough and tumble in the first place - and in my opinion you dont do that kind of play with one year olds anyway.

Your Dh stopped your Mil when it got too rough so what exactly is your issue? Dont make a drama where there isn't one.

juddyrockingcloggs · 22/10/2017 18:03

So your daughter went into a shed with your FIL and that’s a huge issue? Why?

Fattymcfaterson · 22/10/2017 18:05

what more do you want

Blood. The OP wants the woman's blood.

TheDevilMadeMeDoIt · 22/10/2017 18:06

I’ve had a lot of people on here telling me DH needs to speak up so that’s what we’re trying to do. Seems I can’t do right for doing wrong

I suspect that your DH also feels that he can't do right for doing wrong. He recognised that his mum was going too far, asked her to stop and she did.

Now you want to rip him a new one because he didn't say as much as you thought he should. I can understand him thinking that he did the right thing but it's still not enough for you.

CocoPuffsinGodMode · 22/10/2017 18:07

Op I’ve no doubt you’ve had on going issues with the ILs and it sounds like DH failing to address these has been a problem in the past. However on this occasion he did speak up, he just didn’t use the words you think he should.

When people on MN say get your DH to speak to them/back you up they are talking about presenting a united front and supporting each other to confront issues. They don’t actually mean stand mute waiting for your DH to intervene even though you think your child is in physical danger. If it really was as bad as you’ve suggested here then why on earth would you not speak up then and there as well as DH. You stayed silent even though you think what mil did was dangerous yet you’re determined to find fault with DH.

Dustbunny1900 · 22/10/2017 18:10

OP I am shocked at some f these responses.
If anyone blatantly disrespects and basically gives the middle finger to me and my wishes and direct requests as the PARENT, supervised visits would be one of the nicer things I'd go with. They have no respect. There's no trust. They honestly sound like a danger from what you've said, but that's beside the point. Kudos to you for not going ape when you saw your child being thrown around.

I do feel for your DH. he knows his parents behavior is completely unacceptable but it's hard standing up to your parents and having things get awkward and they pout and sulk and go no contact when pulled up on their bullshit sounds like a blessing in disguise doubt anything will change But I think he needs to really sit down with them in a heart to heart to try and get through to them. In a last ditch effort.
In the meantime, don't leave the room when they are over.

Dustbunny1900 · 22/10/2017 18:12

Well, maybe I shouldn't have said "kudos". Next time, remove her from that situation stat.

RosieBucket · 22/10/2017 18:16

You would stop someone using the bathroom until you feel they have been told off enough

That's the part that I had to read twice. How rude and controlling! If my adult dd said to me "hold on, I need to talk to you about this before you go to the bathroom. . . . " Well she wouldn't say that because it's bloody rude.

cafenoirbiscuit · 22/10/2017 18:16

Kudos to your DH. He did something about it. Lots of Hs on here do nothing and the reply is almost always 'you have a DH problem'.

I think he did the right thing.

Aintgotnosoapbox · 22/10/2017 18:16

I think you have to watch your own children when at their place, or barbecue etc. you need to take charge a bit more. Supervise one child each if need be, if the place has unsafe features. My house is sort of set up for little ones, stair gates etc. , care with hot drinks, chemicals etc, but I do expect my son and dil to keep an eye as I may not have thought of something. They are more laid back than me though.
You need to take care of your children, even when visiting. And don't let them babysit alone because you don't sound happy with it.

CosmicPineapple · 22/10/2017 18:17

Go no contact.

After all that is what you really want isnt it OP?

CocoPuffsinGodMode · 22/10/2017 18:18

Dustbunny I wouldn’t disagree with you but from the Ops posts you’d think she didn’t have any say in this but she does! I mean if you were generally concerned that as soon as you want to the toilet your ILs might hurt your child then you’d hardly sit about waiting for DH to decide whether they could visit or not!

Sorry Op I know it’s a crap situation but to me you’re coming across as somebody who’s uncomfortable with conflict and finds setting boundaries difficult so you want DH to do it. It has to come from you both.

MarthaArthur · 22/10/2017 18:23

Sorry Op but why do you hate your pil so much? You give one scenario in the past where your fil took your daughter into the shed. You had only said dont let her in unsupervised. The 2nd time she was supervised. You started the rough and tumble and mil got carried away. I throw my 1 year old nephew in the air to make him laugh maybe thats what she was doing. You dont say your dd was in any distress. Your Dh told his mother to stop and she did why would you feel the need to carry on at her? I Would think you were an argumentative dick if i was her or you dh. Why are you trying to have an argument with your dh after he stopped it too? You sound determined to never see pil again.

Davespecifico · 22/10/2017 18:24

They are untrustworthy and your children aren't safe with them. You therefore need to ensure that there are absolutely no times in which they're alone with the children.

Don't argue with dp about it, and plan in advance. Only have them over if he's there. He can entertain them. And see less of them if possible, subtly reduce visits without any drama if possible.

BuggerLumpsAnnoyed · 22/10/2017 18:34

YABU. Are you always so dramatic?

He asked her to stop, then you left.

I think he's asked to handle it from now on as he probably thinks you're over the top.

His response was perfectly acceptable.

littlebird77 · 22/10/2017 18:35

There is so easily solved. I think you should say how much you appreciate your dh backing you up, and it is making a big difference to your feelings of support and knowing he is with you.

Secondly absolutely no unsupervised access until you feel one hundred per cent certain that you trust them. I would also always plan before you see them how you are both going to deal with anything you are concerned about so you and dh are on the same page each occasion. There is no need for them to babysit if you are uncomfortable, so don't do it.

Lastly your dc will grow much older soon, and you won't have to worry quite so much or feel so protective. They will be bigger, stronger and hopefully will still have a playful relationship with their gp if you can manage this carefully and with diplomacy.

littlebird77 · 22/10/2017 18:38

btw I really wouldn't go nc or lc. Your dh will hate you for it, as in the scheme of things it was a small incident and not one where anyone was hurt in any way. Try to remember how important this relationship is to your dh, and eventually your dc. They need all types of people around them, even ones you don't necessarily like very much.

Try to relax and see that they are at least interested and playful with your dc which more than can be said for some!

sayyouwill · 22/10/2017 18:41

I think YABU and I don't think you came here to ask. You came here and expected people to agree with you. Which many haven't.
DH dealt with it. No need to rehash it and critique his words. Of course MIL didn't hang her head in shame, of corse she went on the defensive, she obviously didn't see that she was doing anything wrong. Time to let it go.

NotTheDuchessOfCambridge · 22/10/2017 18:52

You sound like you have a problem with your mil and will get de any reason to have a go at her. Your DH tomorrow kid her to stop, no more was needed.

SuzukiLi · 22/10/2017 18:53

Was the one year old upset? My DD loves being thrown around like a rag doll!

JustMumNowNotMe · 22/10/2017 18:59

Christ, you sound like an absolute nightmare OP! 😂😂

Crumbs1 · 22/10/2017 19:00

Think you’re trying to be angry. Neither of terrible crimes you report (watching a child in a shed and playing rough and tumble) sound anything but perfectly normal to me. Children love being thrown around: it helps them develop trust and physical confidence.

lljkk · 22/10/2017 19:24

So there's a whole history of you perceiving high risk that the others find acceptable.

tbh, the thread makes me rather unhappy at prospect of ever looking after anybody else's kid, including my D-GC. My step-mom has behaved like a nervous wreck sometimes looking after her grandson, there are so many safety rules that the boy's mom insists upon (and most people don't insist upon). Step-mom is a saint for putting up with it.

sayyouwill · 22/10/2017 19:27

Just wait for the next drip feed:
MIL was holding DD by the foot and swinging her round her head like a lasso
FIL like to practice his knife throwing while playing with DC as well.

HappinessAlwaysAhead · 22/10/2017 19:38

Okay, so I’m thinking that what has happened today is a result of 5 years of tension between my inlaws & I and on this occasion, I’ve over reacted. I’m going to have to give you the full background to understand why I’m at my wits end now.

My relationship with my inlaws was perfectly amicable. Not best friends but gone on perfectly well. When I fell pregnant with DD1, things began to change. It started with them trying to force their choice of baby name on us. Buying us things for the baby but giving us no say, choosing the high chair, choosing the bedroom furniture etc. When my mum bought us our pram, FIL lied and said they had already bought us one and “I suppose we’ll have to take it back to the shops now”. That was untrue as MIL said that they hadn’t bought us a pram. God knows why he said it but moving on.

We chose god parents. There was uproar as we didn’t choose their daughter (even though I have 3 sisters). When DD was born she struggled massively with reflux. She was sick constantly which meant she needed to feed very often (breastfed) and also fed for comfort. MIL told me I wasn’t producing enough milk. I told her she was wrong as DD was gaining weight perfectly on the graph and even gained by 5 days old. She was a demanding baby to feed but I was happy with the situation. PIL were not. Me breastfeeding her meant at times she needed her Mum and they didn’t like that. If she wasn’t feeding, MIL would walk over and lift her out of my arms. I was 22 and although this really upset me at the time, I was niaeve to how wrong that was. MIL made frequent phone calls to DH and told him he needed to tell me that I’m not producing enough milk and that these things happen to some women and it doesn’t mean I’ve failed. She’d regularly tell him that even though I kept telling her that DD was getting more than enough. MIL told me that she thought it looked awful when ladies with big chests breastfeed as it “just looks wrong”. FIL can’t be in the same room as me if I’m feeding. He blatantly sees it as something sexual and has even made jokes about it in a sexual manner.

As DD1 grew up, if I ever took her to one side to tell her not to do something, my inlaws would be literally raging. They think kids should get to do whatever they want and I don’t share that sentiment. I like to have some basic rules for them to follow.

If DH said, “DD1, don’t touch that, it’s dangerous”. They’d wait until he’s out the room and take her over to touch it”. With the shed incident, DH & I had gone in the shed with her but she kept trying to touch nails & garden tools and various dangerous things and getting upset when we said “no touch” so we made a rule that the shed would be a no go zone. She was fairly obedient for 18 months so was less bothered by not going in at all than she was by going in and having all the temptation but being told not to touch anything. We told DD not to go in and explained the new rule to PIL and they just completely disregarded it. It’s a “we know best” mentality”.

If the kids misbehave, PIL just sit and laugh uncontrollably even if I’m trying to explain to DDs why the behaviour isn’t okay, they’ll be laughing their heads off in the background. If I ask them to not laugh as I need the kids to understand it’s wrong they say “we can’t help it”.

MIL & FIL are constantly trying to get the kids on their own. Like today, I thought we’d have a day as a family and do something nice together. Their suggestion was that they take the kids out without us. No invite to us and if I said, “oh can I come along” they’re livid. They want to play Mum & Dad and I’m just an inconvenience in the equation. One day DD was a bit tired but was taking a while to go over. FIL kept hassling me to put my finger in his glass of wine and put it in her mouth (she was 6 months old). I said no but he was trying to force me which really upset me. I have no doubt that even if they knew I wasn’t okay with that, they’d do it if I left my kids with them.

DH and I tried to have a chat to them about how we were feeling and some of the things which had upset us in the hope we could resolve things and move forward. Like I said, they didn’t speak to us for 2 months. They took no accountability for anything at all and have hated me even more ever since. They never say anything nice to me, I mean ANYTHING. They’re all over the kids when they’re here but completely alienate me. So yes, I am at my wits end. I’m struggling. I know they love their grandchildren which is why I keep the contact. Even when I was diagnoses with a chronic, life threatening illness, FIL only wanted to know if it was genetic. I told him it wasn’t so he turned back round and carried on watching tv.

Today in the hotel room. It was mil who took the kids shoes off them and put them on the bed and told them to bounce around. By “rough & tumble”, I mean tickling and lightly rolling them around on the bed. She took it faaaaar too far and if you’d have seen it I know many who have disagreed would understand. Hopefully this explains my position more, even though it’ll probably out me.

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