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Is there a similar forum to MN for men? And if not, why not?

680 replies

Multidimensionalbeing · 22/10/2017 13:42

Because I think there should be.

I don't hate men though it will probably be suggested. I really don't. And I think the forum should be open to anyone who wants to use it for advice.

But....It's becoming increasingly strange around here. We've always had the 'what about the menz?' posters derailing threads talking about the harrassment or abuse of women by pointing out that women do it too..... Though it seems worse recently.

But now it seems that so many threads descend into accusations that men are treated differently on MN and often they are. But surely that's because it has a predominantly female membership? Who will see things from the female perspective?

It seems to me that it's causing division and bun-fighting among posters when I genuinely don't understand why there isn't a similar forum available for men?

Why not?

Why does a man join a predominantly female forum to then point out that they're not being treated like a woman? Or....just sit and watch as the women do it for them?

If there is no where else for them on-line then why not?

I'm sure it's possible.

OP posts:
JonSnowsWife · 22/10/2017 21:16

True whatwould

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 22/10/2017 21:16

I'd love to see how you ll react when your boys are shut down for their male input few years down the line!

What I have noticed becoming the mother of a son is a lot of people saying “isn’t it awful that OUR SONS are being silenced by the horrible women!! You should care!”. I hope my son doesn’t grow up to be such an entitled prick that he believes he has a say in women’s issues and thinks he should be in women’s spaces.

It’s funny how when I only had a DD no one told me I should care so much at the prospect of her being silenced

BobtheFireman · 22/10/2017 21:17

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TheSultanofPingu · 22/10/2017 21:21

What a lovely heartwarming thread Hmm

justdontevenfuckingstart · 22/10/2017 21:24

I'm not bothered by men posting on here but my oh will sometimes say
'what are you putting the world to rights about now' sometimes I tell him what I am reading and he says 'tell them I think.......' and I say to him 'why the fuck would they care what you think'
Because he thinks we need the man's opinion. And we don't.
I read what I want to and ignore what I want to, as many ignore my ramblings I would expect.

KrytensNanobots · 22/10/2017 21:24

I think MNHQ should listen to all the female posters on here (Kryten excepted)

What? Why the fuck should I be excepted? Others have agreed with me!!

Are you the Internet Police in disguise?

HateHomework · 22/10/2017 21:25

Yes there should be a female only space, not the whole forum obviously, to discuss genuine female matters with the ones you think are mums Hmm. This will at least satisfy you all, that fact that behind the username it's a bearded childless bloke doesn't matter as long as you lot are under the illusion... Hmm

KrytensNanobots · 22/10/2017 21:26

I think MNHQ should listen to all the female posters on here (Kryten excepted) who have stated that they would prefer a female only environment.

This ISN'T a female only environment. MN have stated both are welcome here. If you're so dead set on mums only, why not set up your own forum?

Minidoghugs · 22/10/2017 21:26

I don't want anyone kicked off mumsnet except the trolls and anyone who is really abusive. I like that there's loads of different people on here with all kinds of points of view and opinions.
Maybe men could just be a bit tactful and do some hard thinking about whats on the women's rights threads and they may learn something.

KrytensNanobots · 22/10/2017 21:30

Yes there should be a female only space, not the whole forum obviously, to discuss genuine female matters with the ones you think are mums

See, that's just it, isn't it? I'm all for a female only space if that's what people want but you cannot dictate that the entire forum has to be women only. No, it doesn't.
As you say, how do you even go about policing that anyway? DaddyToo and ImABoy (user names totally made up on the spot, apologies if they really are out there!) could change their name to Susan or ProudMummyOfTwo and pretend to be female on your so called safe women's only corner of the internet.

BoneyBackJefferson · 22/10/2017 21:31

BobtheFireman
That's the official stance but I think you'll find that you're not particularly welcome by me anyway. You're like an unwelcome guest.

Yet, you are a guest as well. That you consider me unwelcome is just something that you will have to deal with.

user1487175389 · 22/10/2017 21:31

They don't use the Internet the way we use the Internet.

FrustratedTeddyLamp · 22/10/2017 21:31

Not RTFT yet but I’ve seen a lot of this sentiment so far:

* I know this site is for men and women, this does not stop me from thinking it odd that men want to join a group called mumsnet.* I’ve seen some mention Pistonheads well if it was exclusively for those with Pistons for heads it would be pretty dead

Sketchily · 22/10/2017 21:32

Don’t just include Krytens, Bob. I think men should be included too. That’s just my opinion though Smile

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 22/10/2017 21:33

Agree with kyrten

Even if there was a women only topic how could it be policed

BoneyBackJefferson · 22/10/2017 21:34

DailyMailReadersAreThick

I don't have sons but I'd feel an incredible failure if I raised boys like the men on this thread.

why?

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 22/10/2017 21:34

A ban on men is unfeasible if we want to retain anonymity. It would be better if men didn’t jump on every thread to impart their much needed wisdom. I don’t want to force men out, I want them to realise that sometimes it’s not appropriate to have them there, and respect that.

sunandmoonshine · 22/10/2017 21:36

I know this site is for men and women, this does not stop me from thinking it odd that men want to join a group called mumsnet.

I’ve seen some mention Pistonheads well if it was exclusively for those with Pistons for heads it would be pretty dead

Jeeez, you are Scraping the barrel there @FrustratedTeddyLamp

Worst analogy EVER! Wink

HateHomework · 22/10/2017 21:36

It would be better if men didn’t jump on every thread to impart their much needed wisdom.
Don't women do that too on MN?

PurpleDaisies · 22/10/2017 21:38

+Yes there should be a female only space, not the whole forum obviously, to discuss genuine female matters with the ones you think are mums*

Why does it have to be mums? Not all women have children. Discussions about female matters are relevant to all women.

sunandmoonshine · 22/10/2017 21:38

I'm not bothered by men posting on here but my oh will sometimes say

'what are you putting the world to rights about now' sometimes I tell him what I am reading and he says 'tell them I think.......' and I say to him 'why the fuck would they care what you think'
Because he thinks we need the man's opinion. And we don't

THIS ^ Men ALWAYS seem to think we want their opinions and their views and their help. Newsflash boys; we don't ALWAYS want your 'help' and 'advice' and can often sort shit out on our own.

CherryChasingDotMuncher · 22/10/2017 21:40

Don't women do that too on MN?

Yes Hate but funnily enough, I don’t at all mind when a woman jumps on a thread to talk about women’s issues.

HateHomework · 22/10/2017 21:40

PurpleDaisies
I said who they think are mums as it's obvious from the posts here they prefer mums on top of anyone else Hmm

KrytensNanobots · 22/10/2017 21:41

Don't women do that too on MN?

They do. Go look in the Dadsnet corner (I did earlier on in the thread when I got told to go look at Dadsnet and see what hatred was being spouted there.)
I saw no hatred being spouted but did see lots of women posting. I know because they said as much.
So why are they in the Dadsnet bit? Surely they're doing the exact same thing and "invading their space."

sunandmoonshine · 22/10/2017 21:44

PMSL at the poster saying 'so what if men jump in with opinions. WOMEN do.!'

SOMEone is missing the point of the thread!!! Jeeeeeeeeez! Hmm