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DS wants to vote for Trump.

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Kursk · 18/10/2017 18:14

More a WWYD,

DS will be old enough to vote next election. He said he would probably vote Trump as he seems ok, and there isn’t really another option,

Both me and DH voted Libertarian last election. I am a little sad he hasn’t chosen the Libertarian way, but it’s his own choice at the end of the day and I can’t judge him.

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Fekko · 18/10/2017 21:25

I don't think he understands an awful lot. Why vote for such a dummy to be in charge? He is thick, rude, reactionary and lies so much!

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Kursk · 18/10/2017 21:32

TheRealGussieFinkNottle

Nope, Libertarian all the way

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nolongersurprised · 18/10/2017 21:36

I'd be worried about my son's character. Trump hasn't achieved anything to date so it's hard to justify supporting him because of "policies". People who support him seem to do so because he justifies their own personal bigotries and he gives the racists, xenophobia, white supremacists, gun nuts and misogynists a "voice".

Andrewofgg · 18/10/2017 21:51

Are you sure he’s not just winding you up?

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Kursk · 18/10/2017 22:04

Hope it’s a wind up

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Slimthistime · 18/10/2017 22:08

you say he might be trying to shock you

but that seems unlikely unless you're massively anti Trump?

and tbh I can't see how you can be massively anti Trump and then vote for a party that had no chance - unless you were completely shocked by the election of Trump and understated that

In terms of anti-immigrant sentiment, yes, my parents are immigrants and there's a lot of it about at the moment, I mean much worse than when I was growing up (though not as bad as when they got here...I think....maybe people are just more guarded what they say..) so it could be entirely genuine and not calculated to shock or upset you.

BeALert · 18/10/2017 22:35

He's in rural Maine - there will be a lot of people in his area who think voting for Trump is perfectly reasonable. A lot of people at school and outside of school influencing his decision.

As parents you can try to reason or influence, but when your son is 15/16/17 there's every chance they're going to want to do what will shock or annoy you rather than agree with you. They're more likely to be influenced by friends than by parents.

claraschu · 18/10/2017 22:54

Gary Johnson doesn't believe in regulating carbon emissions, was unable to name a single foreign leader, and didn't know what Aleppo was. The OP voted for him, and clearly doesn't want to keep people from shooting one another in the US at the rate of 11,000+ per year.

Lweji · 19/10/2017 06:47

He isn’t really exposed to Fox, as we don’t have a TV. (Rural Northern Maine)

But maybe you should expose him and yourself to news outside your little community.

See what mess Trump and GOP are making.

From putting the US at risk of nuclear war, to alienating ally countries, to looking like a fool to the rest of the world, to trying to shut down free speech and free press, to supporting white supremacist, and trying to take healthcare from people who now have it.

Maybe see what Democrats are doing to protect people from these policies.

Droogan · 19/10/2017 10:51

If he's 18, encourage him to go travelling OUTSIDE OF THE US for 6 months. On a shoestring, or working his way. Hopefully, seeing other ways of life and meeting new people will change his outlook.
And do that yourselves as well.

ThePeanutGallery · 19/10/2017 11:02

I would think I'd failed massively as a parent and struggle not to kick my DS out on his backside.

Actually, I would kick him out. He'd be 18 and if he wants to support racism, misogyny and downright stupidity then he can do that from the comfort of his own home and not from my house.

nocake · 19/10/2017 11:04

I would be concerned that I'd raised a son who thinks it's acceptable to put someone who has admitted sexually assaulting women into a position of power.

Slimthistime · 19/10/2017 11:06

Droogan, I don't know why that will make a difference, it might make things worse.

for me, the issue of everything going wrong worldwide is mostly due to overpopulation but I think there's a group who see immigration as the problem and leaving a beautiful part of the US and heading for countries which inevitably don't have that physical space, might make him even more convinced that everyone must be kept out.

though I suppose it might make him think about overpopulation but I doubt it. People seem to hear it as an evil word.

SouthWindsWesterly · 19/10/2017 11:07

I’m consistently saddened by the fact that Bernie Sanders didn’t get a chance to stand last election. I think if he had, it would have changed the game.

Acadia · 19/10/2017 11:18

You all three sound like nutters and I hope you enjoy the nuclear wasteland you so long for, and if that doesn't come to pass, I hope you are enjoying being part of one of the most repulsive nations on earth.

sashh · 19/10/2017 11:33

Tell him to start paying for his own healthcare not use your insurance.

Then send him to Puerto Rico to do some voluntary work.

Slimthistime · 19/10/2017 11:35

nocake "I would be concerned that I'd raised a son who thinks it's acceptable to put someone who has admitted sexually assaulting women into a position of power."

yes, I'd def be talking to him about that one.

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Kursk · 19/10/2017 11:53

He has been to the UK, when we have gone back to see family,

He did think the UK was a continuous urban development, and overcrowded.

Probably didn’t help my British Dad told him that the next british revolution was just around the corner

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LemonysSnicket · 19/10/2017 12:03

Jesus - a pro-life narcissist who tweets badly and thinks women are objects ‘Seems ok’?

God, overthrow the constitution and get Obama back. At least I could respect him.

Slimthistime · 19/10/2017 12:19

I doubt Obama would want to come back.

Kursk "He did think the UK was a continuous urban development, and overcrowded."

yes I can imagine. I used to want to move to America for similar reasons though of course now because Trump I won't even be visiting again.

what British revolution is your dad expecting?

No one gives a stuff about overpopulation. The latest thing in London is "microflats" and before anyone tells me to move, my support network is here.

I don't think Trump is the solution to any of this - in fact he will probably encourage white women to churn out 10 babies each. I just don't think travel is likely to change your son's mind.

anyway, all kinds of things happen in life to shape our views so you never know what will happen next.

Fekko · 19/10/2017 12:26

Your dad sounds, errr, a tad 'eccentric' himself. Good luck to you all!

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Kursk · 19/10/2017 12:50

Slimthistime

He is expecting that the conservatives will continue to push people to the limit, and some kind of socialist uprising will subsequently happen

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Slimthistime · 19/10/2017 15:48

Kursk, that's interesting, but given the results of the last election, I doubt it.

squishysquirmy · 19/10/2017 19:41

Maybe next time you go to the UK with your ds go off the beaten track and visit some non-urban bits! [grin[ There is loads of very rural, beautiful countryside in the UK. The speed at which we travel through the countryside compared to the speed at which we travel through towns can help to skew people's perception into thinking the UK is much more built up than it really is. True, we don't have as much space as some parts of the US but that is because we are a much smaller country!

DeathByMascara · 19/10/2017 19:56

As others have said, I would be devastated if I had raised my son to want to vote for someone with such little respect for women.

That’s not to mention the threat of nuclear war, his appalling disregard for climate change and his utter pigheadedness when faced with reasonable questioning of his decisions.

He makes my blood boil.