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DS wants to vote for Trump.

105 replies

Kursk · 18/10/2017 18:14

More a WWYD,

DS will be old enough to vote next election. He said he would probably vote Trump as he seems ok, and there isn’t really another option,

Both me and DH voted Libertarian last election. I am a little sad he hasn’t chosen the Libertarian way, but it’s his own choice at the end of the day and I can’t judge him.

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CaretakerToNuns · 18/10/2017 19:14

You helped vote Trump in, you have no right to complain.

Slimthistime · 18/10/2017 19:15

It's not often that tactical voting is a good idea
But keeping Trump out was definitely one of those times
Were you not that bothered or did you think he wouldn't get in?
I think he will get in again
What can you do, Trump doesn't hide who he is

A fascist supporter in the uk has recently said he joined as a youngster because he felt alienated at school, don't suppose that applies to your son?

Does he have access to all the facts? You might just have to accept there's nothing you can do if he supports Trump.

MissionItsPossible · 18/10/2017 19:15

We are lucky to live in countries where individuals of legal age have a right to vote when so many others don't and I think we should respect that, whether we make it publicly known how we're voting or not. I don't understand when I read things about how people are so against how others, especially friends or family, vote. My friend voted Conservative in 2015 and I voted for Labour and although disappointed at the result, it didn't change the way I felt about him or him me. I voted Leave in the Referendum and most of my family voted Remain. It didn't change a thing between us after the initial shock to waking up to the result not expecting it. I wouldn't vote for Donald Trump (I'm not American but even if I was I wouldn't) but I wouldn't hate someone that did.

When is the next American election then I thought it was every four years?

ILoveMillhousesDad · 18/10/2017 19:18

If he is aware Trump sexually assaulted women and uses words like 'grab the pussy', but he still wants to vote for him, then I think he is an absolute lost cause.

Kursk · 18/10/2017 19:19

I was expecting a Clinton win so it was a surprise.

I don’t think he feels alienated at school. I suspect his feelings are based on one or two policies, likely gun control and immigration

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chinam · 18/10/2017 19:26

I agree with other posters. You may as well have voted for Trump by not voting for Clinton. It's hypocritical to not want your son to do the same. At least he is being transparent about his choice.

TidyDancer · 18/10/2017 19:30

Honestly I would be ashamed if a child of mine want to vote for that man. I’d wonder what I’d done wrong as a parent.

MissConductUS · 18/10/2017 19:33

When is the next American election then I thought it was every four years?

Presidential elections, yes, so the next one will be in November of 2020. Mid term elections for everyone in the House of Representatives (435 seats) and a third of the Senate (33 seats) will be up for election in November of 2018. The results of those elections will be seen as setting the stage for the presidential election in 2020.

Just to clarify an often misunderstood term "Congress" is comprised of both the House and the Senate, but members of the House are referred to as congressmen or congresswomen and members of the Senate are called Senators.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 18/10/2017 19:36

I certainly wouldn’t be telling the world, I’d be utterly horrified.

FurryDogMother · 18/10/2017 19:37

Would it be possible for your son to embark on some kind of exchange programme in a country other than the US? Getting some insight into how other nations view the Trump presidency may influence his views, or at least hone his skills in argument!

BeALert · 18/10/2017 19:40

Well... gun control isn't going to change no matter who's in power.

TBH I think who you vote for locally makes more difference. A president can't do much without filling the House and the Senate with politicians who will actually support his policies.

Littlechocola · 18/10/2017 19:40

Educate him while you still have time!

ButchyRestingFace · 18/10/2017 19:40

You seem to be taking this very calmly, OP.

Are you right wing (by British standards)?

GoldTippedFeather · 18/10/2017 19:45

Butchy - Libertarians are right wing by Moseley’s standards.

Kursk · 18/10/2017 19:45

I would say that by British standards I am right wing, not by US standards though.

I am calm, no point bringing emotions into it 😊

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BeALert · 18/10/2017 19:47

When is the next American election then I thought it was every four years?

There are elections every year.

We vote on lots of different things in elections. At local level we vote on bonds, town council, sheriff, referendums etc. At state level we vote on state senators/representatives, state referendums, etc. At federal level we vote for president.

Just depends what's coming up that year.

Seniorcitizen1 · 18/10/2017 19:48

You must be questioning how you brought him - what values did you instill in him? I'd be tempted to move house without telling him

DotForShort · 18/10/2017 19:48

Jesus. I still can't quite believe anyone voted for Trump the first time around. How on earth could anyone even be contemplating voting for him in the next election? How far have we sunk? Not just in the US, of course. A glance across Europe makes me despair as well.

I voted for Hillary (obviously) though I would have preferred Bernie as the candidate (I supported him in the primaries).

BeALert · 18/10/2017 19:49

I'm curious to see if Trump does get the nomination next time. There was a wide field, and he was not the preferred candidate of the Republican party. He was the populist vote. To maintain that you'd need to... you know... remain popular.

It would be fairly ground-breaking if the sitting president ran for a second term and was beaten in the primary though.

BeALert · 18/10/2017 19:50

I voted for Hillary (obviously) though I would have preferred Bernie as the candidate (I supported him in the primaries).

I did too, and I thought she had a better chance than Bernie. I really think I was wrong though.

MissConductUS · 18/10/2017 19:51

Libertarians are right wing by Moseley’s standards

Is this a reference to Henry Moseley, the brilliant British physicist who died in WWI?

Notthemessiah · 18/10/2017 19:53

Don’t confuse libertarian and liberal just because they sound the same. If the OP is voting libertarian, in some regards they are more right wing when looking at certain policies (welfare, rampant capitalism, gun ownership) than Trump and the republicans. Not so surprising that your DS likes Trump really and sorry, but I would certainly hope your views don’t gain ground in the US.

Dustbunny1900 · 18/10/2017 19:53

Another libertarian here! ( a real one, not some Alex jones Repub in libertarian clothing) i would be distraught if my son wanted trump in after the pussy grabbing comment and rape allegations alone. I hated both candidates ( would have voted for Bernie though ). I will never vote for some evil pos just cause "there isn't another option". , plus how do we even know yet??
He's also a total embarrassment on twitter like some little teenager who should have their wifi shut off and iPad privileges revoked

LeavesinAutumn · 18/10/2017 19:54

Well done op, I can imagine with trump being such an extreme option your worried and perhaps disappointed but I think what it means is you have raised him in a truly libertarian environment rather than a brain washing one that we see on here all too often.

mygorgeousmilo · 18/10/2017 20:01

I would be very upset and ashamed if one of my sons thought that Trump had any redeeming features