FMOTUS: F***ing Moron of the United States (Trump) thread continued

[TheClaws]

As aptly dubbed by his own Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson.

Old thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3047195-Hello-Don-got-a-new-tax-cut-Trump-continued

And as I love giving you images to haunt your dreams, here’s another one, blasphemously titled ‘Our Lord and Saviour’.

Interesting questions ringle !
I agree they are bizarre statements

DT tweeting madly about budget pass.

ringle Lawrence o’donnel had a segment about how flake was actually addressing the president of the committee (?) but knew that the sound bite would make it look as if he was addressing trump.

Lawrence: Flake and Corker know exactly what they're doing www.msnbc.com/msnbc-news/watch/lawrence-flake-and-corker-know-exactly-what-they-re-doing-1080804419704

Exactly.

Going back to Twitter, I notice their statement says,

[Russia Today] "RT and Sputnik may remain organic users on our platform, in accordance with the Twitter Rules."

So they haven't been banned from Twitter, just won't be permitted to pay for advertising.

Will be interesting to see how that pans out...

I imagine that their accounts will be kept under close review.

A Newsweek piece.

Democrats work to stop Trump from launching pre-emptive nuclear strike on North Korea

Not that I think it will make much difference to events, I fear.

^Democrats lead Trump's Republicans by 15 points in Fox News poll
Next year's midterms could shake up Washington^
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/democrats-republicans-poll-fox-news-voting-election-popularity-ballot-a8021616.html

Thanks, woman.

This is wonderful: twitter.com/jaimsvanderbeek/status/921175367854866432

But you know what's going to happen in 2018. The old rigged reliable voting machines will be wheeled out again and kind of mysteriously fail to record a small but significant proportion of Dem votes, just enough to tip swing/marginal states without being too obvious. Allegedly. My theory is this may be the real explanation for the so-called "shy voter" phenomenon in some areas.

Why do you think that I reckon Mr M will report sooner rather than later?

If there are fair and free elections. Today’s news about Georgia’s computer server being wiped clean as it becomes the focus of an investigation suggests they won’t be

Georgia server wipe story

I’m more optimistic, I think. A great many people are watching and alert this time. Previously, they weren’t.

There really is no excuse for voting machines that don't create a paper audit trail.

In fact there's barely an excuse for voting machines at all. Even machine-counters of paper ballots are harmful when they're shown to be inaccurate and the county clerk refuses to recount:

We manage to count paper votes by hand in front of lots of witnesses just fine in the UK - and god forbid that should ever change.

PricklyBall. And yet, somehow, I'm not surprised...

APNewsBreak: Georgia election server wiped after suit filed
abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/apnewsbreak-georgia-election-server-wiped-suit-filed-50729761
"A computer server crucial to a lawsuit against Georgia election officials was quietly wiped clean by its custodians just after the suit was filed, The Associated Press has learned.
...
"Plaintiffs in the lawsuit, who are mostly Georgia voters, want to scrap the state's 15-year-old vote-management system — particularly its 27,000 AccuVote touchscreen voting machines, hackable devices that don't use paper ballots or keep hardcopy proof of voter intent. The plaintiffs were counting on an independent security review of the Kennesaw server, which held electronic poll book and other elections staging data for counties, to demonstrate the system's unreliability.
"Wiping the server clean 'forestalls any forensic investigation at all,' said Richard DeMillo, a Georgia Tech computer scientist who has closely followed the case. 'People who have nothing to hide don't behave this way.'"

I’d have thought that an independent review of the system’s reliability - or otherwise - was still practicable, actually. I hope they carry on.

Loving the "Mr President" trick. Thanks.

"This Spell Must Break".

Oh I don’t think he left anyone in doubt, there.

Didn’t Mr O’Donnell write for ‘The West Wing’ ? (Among other things. )

I can’t work out rosenstein (steen? Stine?) but this does not help with the perception that he’s a bit fishy

Aaron Blake
@AaronBlake
Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein:

"American citizens are pretty savvy ... I don’t think they’d be influenced by ads posted by foreign governments."

Chris Geidner
Chris Geidner
@chrisgeidner
Update on JFK documents, which were due to be released today absent action from Trump to stop it. He is, temporarily stopping some release.

Alan Yuhas
@AlanYuhas
White House official just told reporters that the president had "no choice" but to accept FBI, CIA, etc requests to withhold some JFK docs

Encouraging but still don’t think it’ll go anywhere. Look at all the rules that have been utterly broken without any consequences

Probe Launched Into Trump Voter Fraud Panel

www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/amp/probe-launched-trump-voter-fraud-panel-n814666

Re the 'old American family' comments; bear in mind that I don't have intimate knowledge of the UK class system.

'Technically' the US never had a nobility or aristocracy. We're all supposed to be seen as equal. So saying 'comes from an old American Family' probably doesn't mean the same thing as in the UK where I assume saying 'Old British Family' may carry the implication that the family is 'landed gentry' or titled. Here it just means that your family has been here a long time and money has nothing to do with it. One part of my family has been here since the 1600s, so it's just as proper to say that I come from 'an old American family' (of no particular money) as it is to say it of a wealthy family that's been here the same length of time.

Just out of curiosity, my dad's family (his grandparents emigrated in the late 1800s) has been traced back to the 1400s in a particular area of Cornwall. They're a line of miners, farmers, small businessmen. Wouldn't it be correct to say that their current descendants living in the UK 'come from an old British Cornish family' or is that description reserved for 'upper class' families?

I can understand a politician not wanting to say proudly "I'm the great great great great grandson of the Earl of Shitshire who polished the boots of Charles II" if he wants to appeal to the masses, but is just being of a 'posh' family really enough to put a politician beyond the pale with the average person?