FMOTUS: F***ing Moron of the United States (Trump) thread continued

[TheClaws]

As aptly dubbed by his own Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson.

Old thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3047195-Hello-Don-got-a-new-tax-cut-Trump-continued

And as I love giving you images to haunt your dreams, here’s another one, blasphemously titled ‘Our Lord and Saviour’.

After the horse has bolted, or what?

www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/10/donald-trump-is-rush-shipping-condolences-to-military-families/543606/?utm_source=twb

www.newstatesman.com/culture/observations/2017/10/sanders-zuckerberg-and-oprah-democratic-race-topple-trump-2020

I think that HRC’s day is done, Claws. Trump can’t let her go but that’s his problem to deal with.

The Guardian’s round-up of the last week of Trump.

If only...

HRC acknowledges her day is done, I think, cozietoesie, but I, for one, am glad that she is taking time to reply to some of Trump's most egregious tweets in ways he can't answer. Her intelligence shines through, particularly, obviously, when compared to the nitwit currently in place.
I find it interesting that Bernie Sanders does NOT think his day is over.
What do you all think, if I may digress from the main man?
Aaaaand - I still see no end to this mire of despond, it is the same mistake as Brexit, politicians assuming that voters could not be so idiotic as to put their own country in such shit by electing Trump/voting to leave the UK and therefore not pointing out how bad the alternative would be. If you see what I mean.

This is appalling, really it is. I can't imagine what it would be liked to be a grieving widow or mother and have a letter rushed through as a kneejerk reaction. I think I'd chuck it in the bin

www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/10/donald-trump-is-rush-shipping-condolences-to-military-families/543606/?utm_source=twb

No letter created by Trump will be sensitive, kind or thought out. So, whatever the letter, I would pay very little attention to it.
A good letter won't have been written by him.

On Hillary, she may decide that her days in active elected politics are over.
However, I think it's important that people hear her voice. More than 50% of US voters voted for her and those people should be heard, including via her.
It's a good time for her to speak out, as it doesn't seem so much like a sore loser, nor attempts to overthrow the results.
Trump has also had his opportunity to be President.
It's not only her speaking out. Obama and Bush are too.
The Don has been given his opportunity, I do think this is the time to be assessed and called on what he's done and plans on doing.
Damage control can still be achieved, and the honeymoon period is over.

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Officials behind the now discredited "Dossier" plead the Fifth. Justice Department and/or FBI should immediately release who paid for it.
8:59 pm · 21 Oct 2017

Renato Mariotti
@renato_mariotti
1/ This tweet is the first time in weeks that Trump has tweeted something that could interfere with Mueller's investigation.
2/ We've heard from multiple reports that Mueller has interviewed the author of the dossier and is investigating its contents.
3/ Trump essentially called for the DOJ and FBI to release information pertinent to the investigation now.
4/ If that happened, it could undermine Mueller and could violate the law if knowledge of who paid for it was obtained via the grand jury.
5/ The obvious question Mueller will ask: Why is the President of the United States so motivated to find out who paid for the dossier?
6/ The person who paid doesn't matter legally. Mueller couldn't use the dossier as evidence. He would need to find witnesses and documents.
7/ Mueller could only use whatever he could prove via witnesses with personal knowledge or documents he could authenticate.
8/ Ironically, Trump might make the dossier more relevant now because it could be a motivation for him to shut down the investigation.
9/ The tweet could be used by Mueller to show that Trump is fixated on the dossier and concerned about its contents. /end

And separately from yesterday (no real new information I think but a useful reminder of the outrageous extent that nunes is flaunting his “recusal”)

Devin Nunes Might Find Who Paid for the Trump-Russia Dossier

amp.thedailybeast.com/fusion-gps-claims-devin-nunes-went-rogue-to-find-out-who-paid-for-steele-dossier

Not just obama and Bush. Carter’s joined in too:

The Hill
@thehill
Jimmy Carter: Trump is "exacerbating" racial divisions in the US hill.cm/pOv4r9Q

Look at what the previous (autocorrect initially wrote precious!) presidents are up to while
Trump golf/tweets

Talia Lavin
@chickinkiev
One America Appeal raised $31 million tonight for hurricane relief

In other news involving similar figures:

Judd Legum
@JuddLegum
O’Reilly paid a $32 MILLION settlement to one woman

Extraordinary

OJ was found guilty of murdering two people and the judgement was $33M

O’Reilly Settled New Harassment Claims, Then Fox Renewed His Contract

<a class="break-all" href="https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/10/21/business/media/bill-oreilly-sexual-harassment.html?referer=t.co/KZI5bYcLXl?amp=1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">mobile.nytimes.com/2017/10/21/business/media/bill-oreilly-sexual-harassment.html?referer=t.co/KZI5bYcLXl?amp=1

PROUD RESISTER 👊
@ProudResister
O'Reilly: Settled harassment claim for $32 million & Fox renewed contract.

Trump: Bragged on tape about sexual assault & GOP voted for him anyway.

Kaepernick: Took a knee to protest racial injustice & blackballed from NFL.

THAT’S CALLED WHITE PRIVILEGE.

All the investors in Trump Tower Toronto lost money — but Trump walked away with millions: report

www.newsrepublic.net/detail/05EA79D22010100001_us?pid=14&referrer=200620&showall=1&mcc=311

surely he wouldn’t be so self-serving? Not the president of the United States - the gatekeeper of democracy and beacon of moral leadership?

I know it’s not fun reading/hearing trump’s voice but in this week’s edition of word salad (from Friday - apols if already posted):

Sahil Kapur
@sahilkapur
"I think we have the votes," Trump says on Fox Biz with Bartiromo re: tax cuts. (There's no bill yet.) He says the same of ACA repeal.
This is an exchange between Donald Trump and Maria Bartiromo on tax cuts for upper earners.

Good old GOP, calming down the rhetoric, trying to dampen the flames of violence and promote unity

Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1
MT GOP official says she would have shot reporter Ben Jacobs if 'that kid had done to me what he did' to Gianforte.

amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/21/montana-gianforte-ben-jacobs-karen-marshall-would-have-shot

[bearing in mind that Gianforte pleased guilty to assault and it was all captured on tape - “what that kid did to Gianforte” was ask questions,
not unreasonably as a reporter wanting to find out a candidate’s position]

DeVos rescinds 72 guidance documents outlining rights for disabled students

www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/education/wp/2017/10/21/devos-rescinds-72-guidance-documents-outlining-rights-for-disabled-students/

Rauner looks to Washington for the power to change pension benefits

www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-met-bruce-rauner-washington-20171020-story,amp.html

Renato Mariotti
@renato_mariotti
1/ Now Republicans are trying to use federal law to take away state constitutional rights.
2/ Illinois @GovRauner is trying to get Congress to pass a law that would take away the Illinois Constitutional right to keep your pension.
3/ Due to the supremacy clause of the constitution, Congress and Trump could try to undo a state constitutional right without an amendment.
4/ Can you imagine working your whole life for a pension you thought was guaranteed and then have it reduced after retirement?
5/ That shouldn’t be lawful. If we don’t stop this, what rights could they take away next? /end

Seems to be ever so slowly gaining traction

Nick Cohen
Nick Cohen
@NickCohen4
We know Putin interferes in every election but are meant to believe he stayed out of Brexit- me in the Observer

Russia’s free pass to undermine British democracy

amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/oct/21/russia-free-pass-undermine-british-democracy-vladimir-putin

Molly McKew
@MollyMcKew
USG warns baddies trying to hack power grid, nuke plants etc.
But not elex systems.

U.S. warns public about attacks on energy, industrial firms

mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1CQ0IN

Bloody hell, Pain that dialogue from DT, he really is senile isn't he... and totally unable to answer a question

This is from mid week. Steady yourselves, we might have a tuppence (I am imagining that that’s slang for things that trump like to grab?)

Maggie Severns
@MaggieSeverns
Now on @politico: New committee formed to back Greg Pence, brother of VP, in Indiana congressional bid:

Filing shows Pence's brother readying House campaign

www.politico.com/story/2017/10/18/mike-pence-brother-greg-pence-house-run-indiana-243911

*Am I imagining, not I am imagining!

It’s pretty bad roussete. Complete rambling, incoherent word salad.

Steve Herman
@W7VOA
Tonight's Nelson Report (a reputable newsletter on NE Asia): Removing personal assets from #ROK now advisable, say sr. admin. officials.

Van Jackson
@WonkVJ
Admin source tells me "Everyone wants 'preemptive war' now except for Mattis." Normal Korea experts have no idea how serious this is

US Navy prepares to defend allies amid heightened tensions with North Korea

abcnews.go.com/amp/International/us-navy-prepares-defend-allies-amid-heightened-tensions/story?id=50595652

Bernie is off to Puerto Rico instead of Women's Convention.

Reaction to his invite to speak at the opening night of the Convention was not, shall we say, overwhelmingly positive.

edition.cnn.com/2017/10/19/politics/bernie-sanders-puerto-rico-womens-convention/index.html?sr=twCNN101917bernie-sanders-puerto-rico-womens-convention0704PMStory

Just popped onto the thread to post this video, a new take on the American national anthem, celebrating diversity and a powerful ‘fuck you’ to Trump!

m.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd0n9Fu6P44

I hope she does speak, Lweji.

I think HRC & Bernie are both unelectable at this point. HRC due to being defeated twice and Bernie (unfortunately) because of his age. He'd be (IIRC) 79 when he took office and would turn 80 eight months later. Unfortunately many of the Dem 'Great Statespeople' are up there in years. They need to be looking around for someone with experience, gravitas, and no skeletons lurking currently in his/her late 40s to mid-50s (cough Gavin Newsom cough).