James Corden's 'jokes' about Harry Weinstein...

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I'm horrified. Anyone else seen the footage? I genuinely like James Corden, or at least I did when he did Gavin and Stacey. What on earth was he thinking?!

Thr two family surnames also made me angry. Shipman and West wasn't it? 2 mass murderes anyway. Very funny.

Some things in life are off limits.

You don't get to decide that for other people.

He's just ruined the George Michael programme by being in it. Why? Why? Why?

*Somethings in life are off limits

You don’t get to decide that for other people.*

Ok I will re phrase
“In my humble opinion, some things in life are off limits.”
And I find people who think using sexual assault and rape as fodder for cheap laughs particularly distasteful.

"The hatred spewed on here towards JC is just nasty, with irony being that those doing so hypocritically believe they're occupying a virtuous moral high ground!"

Sorry-I seem to be missing something. Did Corden accidentally make these jokes? Was he somehow coerced or tricked into making them? Did he not realize the context he was making them in? Were they an ill judged off the cuff remark? Because if not, and they were actually scripted material written (or at least signed off) by a very experienced comedian who has been round the block a few times then I am very comfortable up here on the moral high ground.

He totally diminished that woman's experience by making a joke about it. Absolutely.
I bet he's bricking it that he's fucked up his career in the US. His apology was so fucking insincere and forced just to add insult to injury.

He came out with the pat phrases of an apology very quickly, in an “Oh shit! that backfired” way. It smacked of damage limitation and desperation, to many people.

Bertrand: the point, surely, is that even if you don't approve of those jokes, there is really no need to use terms like "odious", "twat", "vile" etc. What words are people going to use for people like Ian Huntley once you've decided that James Corden is "vile"? Where is there to go?

It just seems - like so much stuff people post on the internet -
unnecessarily unpleasant. I have never met Corden, don't know what he's like as a person, but he hasn't, as far as I know, killed anyone. He made some jokes that he probably thought were directed at the abuser but many people took as making light of serious sexual offences. That's not great, but "vile"? "odious"? Come on.

Hackmum, people’s terminology is up to them. You know, he could have avoided all of this had he looked at the material prepared for him and said “no, that’s just totally inappropriate. I’m not saying that” as most decent people might. He didn’t. He had that choice. He may have written his own material of course and that’s even worse.

If he’ll say all that to a room full of mixed company one can only imagine the banter in private. Some things are not funny.

"People’s terminology is up to them". It is indeed up to them. That's why I ask people to think carefully about their terminology before they use it. For example, people can choose to refer to women as "slags", but I'd ask them not to. In the end, people's choice of words says much more about them than it does about the person they're attacking.

"He made some jokes that he probably thought were directed at the abuser but many people took as making light of serious sexual offences"
He's a professional comedian. With script writers. And a manager. Not some bloke doing his first open spot.

What words are people going to use for people like Ian Huntley once you've decided that James Corden is "vile"? Where is there to go?

Vile is so used these days that it doesn't carry the same weight.

Evil.
Monstrous.
Awful.
Horrible.
Abominable.

I have never met Corden, don't know what he's like as a person, but he hasn't, as far as I know, killed anyone.

Is that your line in the sand, hackmum? Everything is acceptable until you kill someone?

Jokes have been used for years to break taboos, When Esther Ranzen was too busy protecting her career to drop Saville in it, Comedians were the ones spreading the word.

It was fairly lazy joke, not even that funny, but it was topical and made headlines, doubt it will hurt his career too much.

Hackmum, in the example of a 'funny' rape joke you gave (man walks into a bar) I don't find that funny. I find it profoundly depressing on more than one level. I also suspect that many rape victims would find it distressing.

I don't find Ricky Gervais funny when he pulls this stuff either. I cringe utterly.

I assumed by the way that the word 'pig' was used to describe him as in 'male chauvinist', the MCPs of my young adulthood. I may be wrong of course.

JC is deeply unpleasant, the HW ‘jokes’ were inappropriate and offensive. And then there are these comments that he made nearly 10 years ago... metro.co.uk/2017/10/17/james-corden-jokes-about-brutal-sex-with-keira-knightley-at-awards-show-7005924/

I didnt watch it all as it was ridiculously unfunny and pathetic but I hope she walked out for her award and said "Just to put the record straight I wouldnt touch this mysoginist pratt with a fucking bargpole"

Oh God, he’s got form then. How can so many in the audience “roar” with laughter? He really thinks he’s something, doesn’t he? It says so much about our society.

Ugh those 'hanging out the back of her' comments are yuck. Cause he's such a mack daddy...

Reading all this back has reminded me of a comic relief sketch which had JC as his Gavin and Stacey character sorting out world peace (or something on those lines). Had George Michael in I think? Someone recommended it to me as hilarious but it was a hideously unfunny cringe fest.

The Keira Knightley stuff is horrible. She recorded an innocent thank you video with no idea that it would end up in that context. It was entirely a sexually explicit joke against her without her agreement in any way. How violating.

Yes, it's really grim isn't it.

PP have said all this won't affect his career that much. Tbh I suspect they're right. There'll be some fuss (as is happening now), he'll be suitably contrite - lie low for a bit - then it'll blow over.

Those Keira Knightley comments are disgusting. Not surprised to hear stuff like that coming from him. What sort of person would find that funny?!

He’s just made some bad taste jokes. That’s all.

Ok Tiny well, let’s see how you feel when your mum/sister/brother/partner/Child has been violated. And then someone stands up and makes a big joke of it and a room full of people bray with uncontrollable laughter. Might not seem that funny, then.