To be fucking sick of working class people screaming

[browncordchic]

We get it, Coronation Street. Working class people show their midriffs and scream, but ars all right really FUCK OFF.

Same - can't stand the shouting! I think it is also giving people who watch it the idea that this is a normal way to behave, it isn't.

I'm on the dole imagine peoples surprise when they see me parent my children not take drugs drink or smoke

I do have a big screen t.v. though

My Mum always says stereotyping and assumptions are everyone's enemy

Op reminds me of Alan Duncan MP.

Charming people!

YABU to watch any soaps - boring melodrama

Only read the first page. I think you have a point though op. Do you remember the days of the so called 'kitchen sink drama' dramas depicting working class people and stories around them. Back in the day these were mostly written by working class writers with real life experience of the lives ordinary people live.

I think now the middle classes dominate the media/arts much more than they did in the 70s/80s. These new writers might have grown up watching '100 kids on benefits' Jeremy Kile or other such shite and their perception of the working classes might well be based on this, with little real life experience. And so this is what we get reflected on Coronation Street.

btw. Pure speculation on my part as I've never seen Coronation Street. :)

And I think other posters should just read the op better instead of just the deliberately provocative title.

Fakename agree with your post. Upticks.

I just wanted to vent about nasty Mr Duncan really. Sorry if I missed OP's angle.

Do the Working Class in the North West of England whisper threateningly to each other like their East London counterparts?

No not in my experience.
Negative emotion revealed through exasperated tutting or an all out moan at normal volume.

I only watch Doctors now, gone right off Corrie.
Plus, all these people who live in the square or street but still go in the Caff or Roys Rolls for every meal/drink they have.
Bring back Knots Landing I say.

I can never understand why the folks in Eastenders always have to go to the laundrette.. Does nobody own a washing machine? And always having to pop in thee ' caff' how about having toast at home..

Yes, it is the programme. It annoys the shit out of me that someone "lower class" is portrayed so badly. And the shouting gives me a headache.

It's not just the misrepresentation of "class". It's also very anti-male with most of the male characters being either lazy, dense or criminals or even worse, comedy characters. It's just not watchable anymore. Full of "strong" woman surrounded by good-for-nothing men.

I only watch Doctors now, gone right off Corrie.

Likewise. Doctors if VERY under-rated. You can really identify with the characters and can actually believe in them. Full of excellent, talented actors and an exceptionally well written script. More please!

I can't deal with Eastenders for the same reason. That and all the sour faced furrowed brows. So grim.

Yes I think your right there fakename.

There are plenty of very good working class actors around - but we don;t seem to get very good writers for those actors, Nor do we seem to get producers willing to back films, theatre productions with them in them

Off the to of my head, Anna, Mary, Yasmeen, Rita, Liz, Fizz, Leanne are strong Women on Coronation Street.

The screaming midriff showers all come from the same estate.

I agree that the Stereotypes still need work.

The stories have been going on too long, considering their substance.

Unlike Emmerdale, who have just played a blinder with the climax of Emma's swan song.

I live in a very working class area and yesterday there was a woman marching up and down the road chucking fucks about because of some fallout over her nephew.

My next door neighbour sometimes stands in his pants in the back garden (drunk) yelling at the other neighbours about football. And he has very shouty yelly rows if people park vans in front of his house.

Woman 2 doors down had a right humdinger with us when DH pranged his car.

I was a student at Uni when Brookside was born in the early 80's. I remember I got into the habit of watching it for a short while, with a flatmate and whilst I can't really say I became a fan, I did find it quite relaxing and enjoyable The plot lines, whilst they made reference to social conditions, ie unemployment ,which badly affected the North West of England, alcoholism etc, but were quite mundane, sedate and everyday compared to soaps today.

I lived on council estates, first in Belfast and later in West London until I was 18. My experience was long periods of everyday, mundane life, punctuated with the odd violent outburst, Police sirens, someone escorted out of a flat in handcuffs, fights etc. But these things were relatively rare, thankfully.

Soaps today are, from what I've observed, (which isn't much I admit) pushing the social issues of the day far more. They seem an awful lot more sensationalist by trying to cram as much drama in the half hour slot, as possible. This results in a lot more screaming, shouting, confrontation, crying and 'emotive noise' in general, it seems to me.

@browncordchick

We get it, Coronation Street. Working class people show their midriffs and scream, but ars all right really

Yeah because you and your posts are just screaming how much of a highly educated, middle class person you are!

@MargaretTwatyer

I live in a very working class area and yesterday there was a woman marching up and down the road chucking fucks about because of some fallout over her nephew.

My next door neighbour sometimes stands in his pants in the back garden (drunk) yelling at the other neighbours about football. And he has very shouty yelly rows if people park vans in front of his house.

Woman 2 doors down had a right humdinger with us when DH pranged his car.

Yeah, I am willing to bet that you don't live in a working class area at all.

What a hideous thread this is.

what an extraordinary outburst Tippz !

Can people really not see my source of annoyance is the twats who deliberately portray working class people in such a vulgar way?

Several people (including myself) have and do brown

Yeah, I am willing to bet that you don't live in a working class area at all.

I bloody do! The woman having a go at someone used to be a foster mother and works in an office now. Next door in his pants is the supervisor of a wholesalers. I know both of them quite well and like them very much despite a propensity for occasional shoutiness. The other woman works and so does her husband, he's a plumber.

I don't necessarily think there is anything wrong with a good old shout. It's all out in the open and everybody knows where they stand. I think it's often a better option than the feuds in the middle class area I grew up which are often much more destructive and underhand with lots of bitching behind people's backs and sly point scoring.

Put it this way:

My road: Someone parks their van outside a neighbours house for a fortnight while they're on holiday. When they return neighbour comes round and says 'If tha' does that again I'll put through your fookin' windows.' Neighbour does not do it again. All blows over.

Middle class neighbourhood: Someone parks their 4x4 inconveniently for their neighbour then goes off on holiday for two weeks. Neighbour comes on Mumsnet with diagram and posts parking thread angsting about what to do. Never has guts to say anything but responds with passive aggressive slights and bitchery. Parker has no idea what they did wrong but responds in kind and a cycle of passive aggressive combat descends into a spiral which only ends in the death of one of them. And even them the other one would brand the funeral vulgar.

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